[Hencredible Casanova]

I remember that thread. It's hilarious. I cracked up by this post.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-5362-p...#pid220608

[Vicious]

G traveled Ryan because it was the only option between his two cities.

TThat is not an endorsement of Ryan Air

[mbare]

wow, crazy Ryan air is proposing this. I never used them when I lived over there, because the closest airport was a 3.5 hour drive away.

They'll get people through all of the hidden fees no doubt.

I did travel Wizz air and EasyJet a number of times. Budget airlines too, and I never had any problems except when I forgot to print my boarding pass beforehand once. I think it was about 60 extra euro due to that mistake. Baltic air was another budget airline that's not too bad at all. I need to bust out a European travels datasheet on my experiences.

I never heard my friends complain too much about Ryan air, except that the planes were super cramped, and you could only carry on a bag the size of a backpack or smaller. Great for little weekend trips.

Who knows if there would be a huge influx of travelers to Europe. A lot of Americans don't even have a passport. And most are scared to travel to places in Eastern Europe (ignorant stigmas). While I lived there, I met Americans who had only left the island once in their 2 years...and they lived IN Europe!

At any rate, I'll be glad for some cheaper fares. I travel light, and although I haven't looked at the thread Gmanifesto started, I'm a firm believer in a penny saved is a penny earned.

[DJ-Matt]

Shit I'll do it if the fares end up being reasonable even with the addons. I've never left the US except on a cruise.

[paninaro]

This will make no difference. First, even if the Ryanair flights were $0, the customer still has to pay taxes and government fees. I just priced a flight from NYC to London, and there are $254.60 in fees/taxes:

U.S. Federal Transportation Tax $17.50
September 11th Security Fee $2.50
September 11th Security Fee $2.50
U.S. Passenger Facility Charge $4.50
U.S. Passenger Facility Charge $4.50
September 11th Security Fee $2.50
U.S. APHIS User Fee $5.00
U.S. Immigration User Fee $7.00
U.S. Customs User Fee $5.50
U.K. Air Passenger Duty $114.90
U.K. Passenger Service Charge $66.20
U.S. Federal Transportation Tax $17.50
U.S. Passenger Facility Charge $4.50

On top of that, airfare is only one component of a vacation's cost, and often not the largest. Hotels are expensive. $100/night and a 2-week stay is $1,400. Then add in the other costs (restaurant, museums, public transport) and it really adds up.

As a slight aside, about 35% of US citizens have passports, and these are the top destinations based on travel statistics:
England (9% of all trips), France (7%), Italy (7%), Germany (5%), Dominican Republic (5%), Jamaica (5%), Japan (4%), China (4%), India (4%) and Spain (4%).

[Mentavious]

What's more important is that more budget airlines will mean other legacy and European airlines will have to lower their prices to compete.

So now Delta/United/AA will have to compete with Turkish/NORWIEGAN/eventually RyanAir along with a host of other airline.
^^ that only applies to London because of their high taxes.

More competition means lower prices.

[Suits]

(03-01-2014 11:04 PM)paninaro Wrote:  

This will make no difference. First, even if the Ryanair flights were $0, the customer still has to pay taxes and government fees. I just priced a flight from NYC to London, and there are $254.60 in fees/taxes:

U.S. Federal Transportation Tax $17.50
September 11th Security Fee $2.50
September 11th Security Fee $2.50
U.S. Passenger Facility Charge $4.50
U.S. Passenger Facility Charge $4.50
September 11th Security Fee $2.50
U.S. APHIS User Fee $5.00
U.S. Immigration User Fee $7.00
U.S. Customs User Fee $5.50
U.K. Air Passenger Duty $114.90
U.K. Passenger Service Charge $66.20
U.S. Federal Transportation Tax $17.50
U.S. Passenger Facility Charge $4.50

On top of that, airfare is only one component of a vacation's cost, and often not the largest. Hotels are expensive. $100/night and a 2-week stay is $1,400. Then add in the other costs (restaurant, museums, public transport) and it really adds up.

As a slight aside, about 35% of US citizens have passports, and these are the top destinations based on travel statistics:
England (9% of all trips), France (7%), Italy (7%), Germany (5%), Dominican Republic (5%), Jamaica (5%), Japan (4%), China (4%), India (4%) and Spain (4%).

For $256 round trip, I'd travel with the clothes on my back and buy a few outfits when I arrive and a small bag to carry them in. Stay at hostels. Could have a blast for several weeks for $1000 easy if I did everything cheap.

[loveblondes]

(02-28-2014 08:10 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Supposed to launch a $14 fare from Europe to US, and flights from US to Europe to offer fares even cheaper.

Either way, this could potentially be a gamechanger depending on the scale we're talking, and potentially the death of any European pussy paradise. Can you imagine the class of Americans that would come to Europe at these bargain-basement prices?

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/ryanair-fly...d=22704498

Quote:

Ryanair's colorful CEO is in the travel headlines again. But this time it's not for promising to someday charge passengers for using the bathroom in-flight.

Michael O'Leary said his airline plans to offer flights from Europe to the United States for as little as $14. Flights from the United States to Europe will be even cheaper, he said.

He made his remarks at the Irish Hotels Federation conference earlier this week, as reported by The Telegraph. A Ryanair representative confirmed to ABC News O'Leary's comments at the conference.

The flights would leave from up to 14 major European cities to 12 to 14 destinations in the United States.

But Ryanair does not yet operate any aircraft capable of making long-haul flights. It needs to acquire appropriate aircraft first and Ryanair told ABC News it "will not engage in speculation."

“We can make money on 99 cent fares in Europe,” O’Leary said at the conference. “Not every seat will be 10 euros [about $14], of course. There will also need to be a very high number of business or premium seats.”

But in true Ryanair style, expect to pay up for the "extras.” The airline charges fees for bags, seat assignments, credit card transactions and printed boarding passes.

THis already happened in lower scale with lowclass brits destroying europe, particularly eastern european main cities. be thankful to easyjet and ryanair.

[EU Explorer]

(03-02-2014 02:42 PM)loveblondes Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 08:10 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Supposed to launch a $14 fare from Europe to US, and flights from US to Europe to offer fares even cheaper.

Either way, this could potentially be a gamechanger depending on the scale we're talking, and potentially the death of any European pussy paradise. Can you imagine the class of Americans that would come to Europe at these bargain-basement prices?

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/ryanair-fly...d=22704498

Quote:

Ryanair's colorful CEO is in the travel headlines again. But this time it's not for promising to someday charge passengers for using the bathroom in-flight.

Michael O'Leary said his airline plans to offer flights from Europe to the United States for as little as $14. Flights from the United States to Europe will be even cheaper, he said.

He made his remarks at the Irish Hotels Federation conference earlier this week, as reported by The Telegraph. A Ryanair representative confirmed to ABC News O'Leary's comments at the conference.

The flights would leave from up to 14 major European cities to 12 to 14 destinations in the United States.

But Ryanair does not yet operate any aircraft capable of making long-haul flights. It needs to acquire appropriate aircraft first and Ryanair told ABC News it "will not engage in speculation."

“We can make money on 99 cent fares in Europe,” O’Leary said at the conference. “Not every seat will be 10 euros [about $14], of course. There will also need to be a very high number of business or premium seats.”

But in true Ryanair style, expect to pay up for the "extras.” The airline charges fees for bags, seat assignments, credit card transactions and printed boarding passes.

THis already happened in lower scale with lowclass brits destroying europe, particularly eastern european main cities. be thankful to easyjet and ryanair.

Destroyed Europe?..I guess what you mean is the stag parties?..the trick is to keep well away from them but it does not help the reputation of Brits that is for sure....the upside is that without low cost Airlines I could not jump on a plane to Poland for a weekend with a hot chick for £60 return

[Petrosius]

i think is a great idea!

[cibo]

I'm really skeptical of Ryanair, they always run their planes through the cheapest airports out in the middle of nowhere and nickle and dime the shit out of you. At least easyjet puts the planes in the more common airports but they still nickle and dime you on luggage. It's usually cheaper/better to go with another airline. I flew Ukrainian airlines to Kiev and it was great. Good food (i like russian/ukraine food), hot stewardesses, and good prices. They used Boeing planes so it was pretty safe too. I did the same when I went to Greece and i used Aegean airlines which was also good.

Prices are about the same but when you through in all the additional stuff, the other airlines come out ahead.

[Road_Less_Taken]

I'm still confused how they make money on a fare like that to the U.S, most of the taxes they arent retaining are they, such as airport taxes exc..

Of course all of there baggage fees and their usual stuff they will get, though still confused at how this can even pay for the fuel to get to the states

[paninaro]

(03-03-2014 11:30 AM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  

I'm still confused how they make money on a fare like that to the U.S, most of the taxes they arent retaining are they, such as airport taxes exc..

Of course all of there baggage fees and their usual stuff they will get, though still confused at how this can even pay for the fuel to get to the states

They only have a couple seats at that super-cheap price, and the rest are much higher. Pretty much every airline does this, just maybe not as low as Ryanair for the cheapest seats.

I got a ticket on KLM from the US to Europe during the low season (winter) last year that was $650 round-trip. $150 was the ticket cost, and $500 was taxes, surcharges, etc. So even the big carriers do some heavy discounting on some seats.

[Every10GivesMeA10]

(03-01-2014 03:26 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

One of my friends said tickets are so cheap for Ryan Air because pilots are literally paying the company a great deal of money to get enough rotations in for their certification. She's a pilot from Sweden btw. Any truth to this?

Pilots need to pay for their type rating (airplane specific training, 737 in this case) at ryanair. which is like 20-30k euro. A lot of airlines do this as well but ryanair is famous for it.

[Petrosius]

(03-03-2014 10:19 PM)paninaro Wrote:  

(03-03-2014 11:30 AM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  

I'm still confused how they make money on a fare like that to the U.S, most of the taxes they arent retaining are they, such as airport taxes exc..

Of course all of there baggage fees and their usual stuff they will get, though still confused at how this can even pay for the fuel to get to the states

They only have a couple seats at that super-cheap price, and the rest are much higher. Pretty much every airline does this, just maybe not as low as Ryanair for the cheapest seats.

I got a ticket on KLM from the US to Europe during the low season (winter) last year that was $650 round-trip. $150 was the ticket cost, and $500 was taxes, surcharges, etc. So even the big carriers do some heavy discounting on some seats.

what is KLM?
during the low season you mean january-feb?

thanks!

[paninaro]

(03-04-2014 02:52 AM)Petrosius Wrote:  

(03-03-2014 10:19 PM)paninaro Wrote:  

(03-03-2014 11:30 AM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  

I'm still confused how they make money on a fare like that to the U.S, most of the taxes they arent retaining are they, such as airport taxes exc..

Of course all of there baggage fees and their usual stuff they will get, though still confused at how this can even pay for the fuel to get to the states

They only have a couple seats at that super-cheap price, and the rest are much higher. Pretty much every airline does this, just maybe not as low as Ryanair for the cheapest seats.

I got a ticket on KLM from the US to Europe during the low season (winter) last year that was $650 round-trip. $150 was the ticket cost, and $500 was taxes, surcharges, etc. So even the big carriers do some heavy discounting on some seats.

what is KLM?
during the low season you mean january-feb?

thanks!

You can type "KLM" into Google or even type in klm.com and find out it's one of the largest airlines in the world.

Low season is usually outside summer and Christmas, so mid-September to mid-December, and then mid-January to about April.

[Sourcecode]

Did this ever kick off? Or did Ryan play us all?

[262]

^ No then yes.

Quote:

02/06/2016 - 15:18:17

Ryanair has put its plans for transatlantic flights on hold again.

CEO Michael O'Leary has said his company won't begin flying to states until at least 2020.

Mr O'Leary has said its because they cannot get the required aircraft: “We can’t get long haul aircrafts, I mean the gulf carriers have ordered most of the long haul aircrafts deliveries for about the next five years, out to 2020.

“So there is no availability of aircraft and prices are high.

“So we have effectively postponed any transatlantic plans I think effectively for at least five years.”

Source: http://www.breakingnews.ie/business/ryan...38299.html

Also note that Norwegian Air pretty much does what RyanAir wanted to do.

[Pornopung]

Norwegian got ahead in the low-budget long haul game. One reason is they were early to order a lot of the new Dreamliners. And they have a very modern fleet in general. Lower operating costs of the modern planes are one reason they can cut the prices on long haul flights. However, they did have a lot of trouble starting up because of problems with the Dreamliner.

Apparently Michael O'Leary complained to Bjørn Kjos, NAS CEO, about his large orders of Dreamliners. Causing long delivery times for other airlines wanting to buy planes.

Quote:

“I know Ryanair is just waiting to get underway with their long-distance efforts,” Kjos explained. “But we have taken all the planes – and I heard that when I asked (Ryanair CEO) Michael O’Leary how it’s going: ‘Bjørn, godammit, you’ve taken all the aircraft!’ he said. So far, he must just wait. So we have at least five years head start on him.”

http://www.newsinenglish.no/2014/03/12/n...-aircraft/

I wouldn't put Norwegian in the same basket as Ryanair. NAS have been voted Europe's best low cost airline several times. But prices are also considerably higher than Ryanair. So I'm sure if Ryanair eventually go through with their long haul ambitions, we will see lower prices.

[expatinlocombia]

(03-03-2014 10:19 PM)paninaro Wrote:  

(03-03-2014 11:30 AM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  

I'm still confused how they make money on a fare like that to the U.S, most of the taxes they arent retaining are they, such as airport taxes exc..

Of course all of there baggage fees and their usual stuff they will get, though still confused at how this can even pay for the fuel to get to the states

They only have a couple seats at that super-cheap price, and the rest are much higher. Pretty much every airline does this, just maybe not as low as Ryanair for the cheapest seats.

I got a ticket on KLM from the US to Europe during the low season (winter) last year that was $650 round-trip. $150 was the ticket cost, and $500 was taxes, surcharges, etc. So even the big carriers do some heavy discounting on some seats.

Old question I know, but the answer is Ryanair doesn't fly into those airports. They'll fly into low cost small airports and advertise them as being the nearest big city. SOP.

BTW: https://www.eurocockpit.be/stories/20161...y-possible