All in.
Deadline ABC has approached me...
Quote: (02-20-2014 08:54 PM)Snowplow Wrote:
The only thing I'd suggest is stay slightly humble,
This could easily be edited to portray him as weak. On T.V., you don't get a chance to show subtleties of your character. You get instantly typecast into extremes like "Funny" "Boring" "Nice" "Mean" "Likeable" "Unlikeable".
How do you want the world to see you?
You'd want the world to see how you are on a Friday night out. Confident, cocky, intense, energetic, reckless, fun.
Sitting in an interview room with a blaring white light on you is not fun, and I know from experience. What do you do when a girl gets serious? You lighten it up and tease her. What do you do when an interviewer gets serious? Same thing. It's going to take some discipline and practice, but if you can swing it then there's some serious glory at stake here.
First, congratulations.
If you're 100% into what you're doing and don't have another job you're afraid of losing (which is what it seems like), then do it. Even if by some freak occurrence the "bad publicity" crushes your current business, you can start over with another business entity, another brand, another name, etc. More likely than not, the opposite will happen: you'll see more immediate monetary success, while the people who were never going to work with you anyway grouse online (e.g., Jezebel).
I know of a few specific examples of people who were pilloried on blogs and in comment sections for publicly coming out in favor of an unpopular position, but got more economic success out of it. I'd prefer not to post them here, but can be more specific over e-mail if you'd like.
Unless the act of merely going on television is going to almost certainly cost you something you can't bear to lose, the positives will outweigh the negatives.
If you're 100% into what you're doing and don't have another job you're afraid of losing (which is what it seems like), then do it. Even if by some freak occurrence the "bad publicity" crushes your current business, you can start over with another business entity, another brand, another name, etc. More likely than not, the opposite will happen: you'll see more immediate monetary success, while the people who were never going to work with you anyway grouse online (e.g., Jezebel).
I know of a few specific examples of people who were pilloried on blogs and in comment sections for publicly coming out in favor of an unpopular position, but got more economic success out of it. I'd prefer not to post them here, but can be more specific over e-mail if you'd like.
Unless the act of merely going on television is going to almost certainly cost you something you can't bear to lose, the positives will outweigh the negatives.
As long as you are prepared for an huge boost in business I'd say go for it.
If for some reason you would not be able to cope, get those systems in place first, otherwise the boost into the spotlight will be wasted.
If for some reason you would not be able to cope, get those systems in place first, otherwise the boost into the spotlight will be wasted.
They are notorious for spin. Be aware whom their key audience is:
30+ White women
60+ old people
Welfare/LCDs/general prole types
Cat ladys
No such thing as bad publicity but they won't shy you in a positive light. Depending on how you want the McQueen to be portrayed keep that in mind. Maybe things can get so outrageous you get a sound-bite that goes viral, but regardless Dateline isn't zero'd in in your core clients and demographics for your job and your products.
Maybe there's a assistant/intern on the assignment that's hot and you end up banging. Maybe NBCs CEO son gets in touch with you to party, all long shots but classic bad boy smear campaigns, if they arn't net based, and viral can't seem too too bad haha.
It's the net based firestorms which unelected white nights to hack your shit is what ways worries me about publicly things.
30+ White women
60+ old people
Welfare/LCDs/general prole types
Cat ladys
No such thing as bad publicity but they won't shy you in a positive light. Depending on how you want the McQueen to be portrayed keep that in mind. Maybe things can get so outrageous you get a sound-bite that goes viral, but regardless Dateline isn't zero'd in in your core clients and demographics for your job and your products.
Maybe there's a assistant/intern on the assignment that's hot and you end up banging. Maybe NBCs CEO son gets in touch with you to party, all long shots but classic bad boy smear campaigns, if they arn't net based, and viral can't seem too too bad haha.
It's the net based firestorms which unelected white nights to hack your shit is what ways worries me about publicly things.
Unfortunately I think they may try and class him along side the PUA clowns. I saw those interviews that were posted here and couldn't even finish through four minutes. I've interviewed with the media on trivial affairs, but knew even back in high school to avoid any hot topic like gun control when asked. The media truly has the power of final edit. Never mind all the years spend in the ME, in bewilderment at watching the networks blatantly lie about what just happened that day over there.
I say ask a pro about the effects on future endeavors. It would be a shame to let a small interview on ABC mar up larger long term goals.
I say ask a pro about the effects on future endeavors. It would be a shame to let a small interview on ABC mar up larger long term goals.
Go for it brah. Expect pretty much anything to happen though; it sounds paranoid, but I wouldn't put it past them to hire some actors whose job will solely be to make you break your frame or get an otherwise negative reaction from you. Who knows with these news companies nowadays.
A verdict will be made within a few hours.
Stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
I'm trying to understand what some of the guys here think would be the worst that could happen. Some of you guys act like one interview could kill all of his goals.
I say think about what the worst thing that could happen and if that is something you could deal with then do the show. Even if it is a hit piece I bet it would end up as a boost to your business. More people to your pod shows, more book sales, more coaching....
Always expect bad publicity, you are doing and selling something that is outside the norm. You are the product, man. Sooner or later if you want to do it big you will have to put yourself out there.
I say think about what the worst thing that could happen and if that is something you could deal with then do the show. Even if it is a hit piece I bet it would end up as a boost to your business. More people to your pod shows, more book sales, more coaching....
Always expect bad publicity, you are doing and selling something that is outside the norm. You are the product, man. Sooner or later if you want to do it big you will have to put yourself out there.
I say go for it.
Doesn't matter if they spin you wrong. Any publicity is good publicity.
Especially in your niche.
The only question on the table is whether you want all in or not. Viewing the moves you've made this year regarding your business and entering the limelight, I venture that you do. Even if it's intimidating.
Just don't lose yourself if it takes off on you. Good luck!
Doesn't matter if they spin you wrong. Any publicity is good publicity.
Especially in your niche.
The only question on the table is whether you want all in or not. Viewing the moves you've made this year regarding your business and entering the limelight, I venture that you do. Even if it's intimidating.
Just don't lose yourself if it takes off on you. Good luck!
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"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
Quote: (02-20-2014 09:48 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:
I'm trying to understand what some of the guys here think would be the worst that could happen. Some of you guys act like one interview could kill all of his goals.
Remember one fact of human nature:
People would rather be liked than be successful.
That's why most people lose. They follow the herd to not be noticed.
That's the best way to be liked, right...to be like everyone else?
Well look around at "everyone else" and ask, "If that's the cost of being liked, it is worth it?"
Quote: (02-20-2014 09:53 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (02-20-2014 09:48 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:
I'm trying to understand what some of the guys here think would be the worst that could happen. Some of you guys act like one interview could kill all of his goals.
Remember one fact of human nature:
People would rather be liked than be successful.
That's why most people lose. They follow the herd to not be noticed.
That's the best way to be liked, right...to be like everyone else?
Well look around at "everyone else" and ask, "If that's the cost of being liked, it is worth it?"
True and luckily McQueen doesn't come across as someone who cares if he is liked. The one thing I know is you got to take chances in life if you want success.
I say he should do it just to piss off El Mech. hah
McQueen works in the entertainment industry in LA. Is there anything better than having fame and media exposure in such a case? With good luck and the correct vibe, this could go big. Not just book sales, but TV, media appearances, you name it.
I vote for turning them down. How much better is A Voice for Men doing since Paul Elam went on 20/20 or Nightline? The people you're marketing to don't watch that garbage. They have all the control in editing and all the experience in media to make you look like garbage.
TL;DR Limited upside; Huge downside. Turn them down. Go on after you blow up since you'll have widespread success on your side.
TL;DR Limited upside; Huge downside. Turn them down. Go on after you blow up since you'll have widespread success on your side.
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I say he should do it just to piss off El Mech. hah
Meanwhile at elmechs place..
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Remember though, this decision determines whether you stay anonymous or not.
Everyone, your family, friends, etc. will know about this.
If you're willing to deal with the bullshit that comes with that, then this is a good move that could really help your business along.
Everyone, your family, friends, etc. will know about this.
If you're willing to deal with the bullshit that comes with that, then this is a good move that could really help your business along.
What's the big deal with being anonymous?
Fucking own it and you'll go places.
Hide in the shadows and you'll get scraps.
Fucking own it and you'll go places.
Hide in the shadows and you'll get scraps.
There was an interview with either Lou Reed or Tom Waits. They kept trying to ask him serious questions and he would evade or feed them bull shit. You might want to try that if they try to ask you loaded questions that have no good answer. The interviewer than has to play into your frame. I agree about having an unofficial recording, although they probably will have a way to prevent you from posting online. Stuff on youtube is often removed for shady reasons.
I think El Mech is more pissed we're tied for rep points.
First you get on Deadline and then all of the sudden Flatline calls.
A TV hit piece is like a forged/dodgy thesis it dogs you when you get up the ranks because mainstream losers will always cite mainstream shit. Example is Roosh being placed in that wack SPLC list, fuckers reach for that shit each time even though the list has zero credibility.
If McQueen has goals to be a household name/brand you can side road the traditional avenues of getting the word out there.
They (the mainstream) need him more then he needs them... The Mainstream is so fuking irrelevant these days. Music is such a good example of this as dudes are able to tour globally off a Soundcloud and Bandcamp page, all the while royally telling MTV to suck their cocks. When they reach a certain level then they accept the Mainstream/MTV into their frame 100% on their terms.
If McQueen has goals to be a household name/brand you can side road the traditional avenues of getting the word out there.
They (the mainstream) need him more then he needs them... The Mainstream is so fuking irrelevant these days. Music is such a good example of this as dudes are able to tour globally off a Soundcloud and Bandcamp page, all the while royally telling MTV to suck their cocks. When they reach a certain level then they accept the Mainstream/MTV into their frame 100% on their terms.
Just make sure it's not this guy.
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Beyond All Seas
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
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