[K Galt]

Heh. In the pre-manosphere days, Henry Makow's "Save the Males" site was one of the OG anti-feminist sites...but he's mostly concerned with conspiracy theory and the illuminati, so he doesn't get much cred from a large section of the 'sphere.

So apparently an expat in Russia by the handle Zelcorpion, wrote a brief synopsis encompassing the overarching structure and purpose of the manosphere, but really focused on the PUA sector (which makes me suspect this guy is a RVF'r).

http://henrymakow.com/2014/02/manosphere...inism.html

This quote in particular made me LOL:

"Now of course women complain that suddenly the natural raving lunatic Psychopath-Alpha gets outshined by a Mensa-member-microbiologist who has grown a beard, done some push-ups and learned Game (Roosh V)? Really??? Heartless? What irks feminists is that this stuff really works - just like short skirts and innocent-good-girl-charm work on men!



Is it true Roosh? Are you really a member of mensa?

[Roosh]

I am not a member of Mensa. I've never had my IQ officially tested, and I don't plan on ever doing so.

[K Galt]

"Velcorpion" must have mixed you up with Vox Day.

[K Galt]

Speaking of Vox, he once wrote something that I always remember regarding hypergamy: "We now know the answer to Freud's famous question, 'What do Women want?' Answer: more."

This picture from Makow's article illustrates that perfectly!

[DarkTriad]

(02-16-2014 05:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I am not a member of Mensa. I've never had my IQ officially tested, and I don't plan on ever doing so.

Everyone with top 1 or 2% SAT scores is automatically accepted. Highly unlikely you didn't make the cut. I can understand the lack of interest however - Every smart person that isn't a fuck up has a better smart guy credential (Ivy League Degree or whatever) than a Mensa membership. Mensa is like the "Association of Smart people that Failed To Live Up To Their Potential".

[K Galt]

@ DarkTriad - IIRC, that's how Vox got in. He used to have it posted as a byline on his blog and WorldNetDaily column. When asked about it, he said he only put it out there because it pissed off all the right people.

[Donnergott]

It is me Zelcorpion - living the life in Eastern Europe.

Whether Roosh is officially a Mensa-member or not does not matter really. I have tested a couple of times and frankly the results varied with age, health and current mental activity.

And besides - who the fuck cares? I met genius level data-entry clerks (who worked on theorems of mathematics in their free time!) and I met guys with tested IQs of 120 who became CEOs by age 38.

IQ helps. Roosh seems high-IQ. How high? Who the fuck cares. What matters is how we use our gifts in life. There should be more guys like Roosh running around. Not because they bed a lot of girls, but because they live according to their own rules, work on themselves and their goals and live fucking intense and memorable lives!

[Donnergott]

Makow unfortunately does not like Game - regardless of whether it is used in a strong relationship or outside.

He recommends college guys to remain celibate and concentrate on their studies while they watch the all-around-fuckfest of the campus sluts chasing Alphas. They should remain nice guys and become worthwhile men through professional success and look for the few uncorrupted girls out there.

Frankly those dating tips will result in blue balls and extreme frustration until marriage of a post-SMV woman in his 30s. Consequently the gameless nice guy will be divorce-raped if his precious snowflake has some real or perceived sexual market value left at all (which currently means most of women before the great-inner-wall of 45 really hits them and not even internet fuck-ladder-dating can inflate their egos sufficiently any more).

Makow prefers men to be game-less, look for the precious snowflake, be a traditional religiuous man and good provider. His analysis of feminism - history and real reasons - is correct, but what to do about it is sorely lacking. But hey - you don't have to agree with everything with somebody in order to respect him. That shit is feminized PC-think.

[Thomas the Rhymer]

From the comments section:

Zelcorpian Wrote:

In my opinion being against game is about as useless as being against gravity.

[Donnergott]

I stand by it! Game should be taught to all men - best at age 14. Even if they are to become catholic priests or monks - it helps every man understand the female psychology. - Zelcorpion

[bojangles]

(02-24-2014 06:15 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

From the comments section:

Zelcorpian Wrote:

In my opinion being against game is about as useless as being against gravity.

haha I saw that! fucking brilliant

[K Galt]

It is me Zelcorpion - living the life in Eastern Europe.

I knew it!

[rudebwoy]

Not me but that site is a daily read for me.

[K Galt]

Same here.

Interesting comments too. When I first read it, there was only one comment, nor did it have Zelcorpion's comment about being against game is like being against gravity.... lol I always get a laugh when women presume to tell men what a TRUE ALPHA MALE is....

Lisa - I was very surprised to see this topic, because the Alpha Male is rare this days, in almost every country.

However ,the writer is assuming that Alpha Male equals Pick Up Artiest (PUA). This is simply not true.A true Alpha Male is strong, takes care of his family ,is not arrogant and has a strong set of morals and values.He treats men and women with respect ,yet guards his boundaries and is not a push over ....

...A true Alpha Male is here to guide her, set an example and at the end "make a honest women out of her' .Not to bring her any more misery and hurt with his lies, sweet talk which is the ultimate deception. No woman wants to be used,be lied to,heartbroken,and left with even more distorted reality of how things ought to be .That woman will one day be someone's wife, mother,that woman is perhaps your sister or daughter.Do we really want to see some sleazy pick up artist treat her like a prostitute?

[AnonymousBosch]

(02-24-2014 05:12 AM)Donnergott Wrote:  

Whether Roosh is officially a Mensa-member or not does not matter really. I have tested a couple of times and frankly the results varied with age, health and current mental activity.

And besides - who the fuck cares? I met genius level data-entry clerks (who worked on theorems of mathematics in their free time!) and I met guys with tested IQs of 120 who became CEOs by age 38.

There's differing thoughts on how IQ deteriorates with age. Some blame the visual and perception difficulties older people are dealing with during the testing process. Others claim the brain needs to be continually-exercised, and that deterioration happens when you stop a regularly-learning new information. The peak years are thought to be 21-40.

For guy's working the self-improvement / knowledge game, I'm sure you recognise being a 30-year-old man regularly reading about history, health and science and the communication gulf between you and the average 30 year old woman, who usually hasn't read anything but celebrity gossip, trashy novels and pop-culture 'self-help / spirituality' books since high school. Take a look at what is on the nightstand of the next chick you fuck. No wonder they never accumulate wisdom.

[Donnergott]

There's differing thoughts on how IQ deteriorates with age. Some blame the visual and perception difficulties older people are dealing with during the testing process. Others claim the brain needs to be continually-exercised, and that deterioration happens when you stop a regularly-learning new information. The peak years are thought to be 21-40.

For guy's working the self-improvement / knowledge game, I'm sure you recognise being a 30-year-old man regularly reading about history, health and science and the communication gulf between you and the average 30 year old woman, who usually hasn't read anything but celebrity gossip, trashy novels and pop-culture 'self-help / spirituality' books since high school. Take a look at what is on the nightstand of the next chick you fuck. No wonder they never accumulate wisdom.
[/quote]

IQ certainly deteriorates with age, though training, nutrients in food, toxins (Amalgam, sweeteners, MSG etc.) definitely play a role.

Women in Eastern Europe are more well-read, but most women don't reach the level and breadth of interests as men do.

In the past I often tried to have intellectual conversations with the ladies. Some tried to show interest if they were into me, but more often it was rather contra-productive or dull at best. Playful banter and amused mastery with some sprinkles of asshole makes for way more memorable experiences.