[Vice]

This dude isn't high-status but it is sort of relevant... I just had to post this







Maybe someone needs to start a "Ripped dudes with ugly chicks" thread lol...

[Candlejack]

(01-27-2014 09:55 AM)Vice Wrote:  

This dude isn't high-status but it is sort of relevant... I just had to post this







Maybe someone needs to start a "Ripped dudes with ugly chicks" thread lol...

bet he needs that muscle to keep the bitch at bay

[el mechanico]

^ Looks like Captain Power

[pitt]

(01-26-2014 01:46 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

Ive got one here's a picture of Robinho a pretty famous football player who played for Real Madrid and Manchester city. Heres a pic of him and his wife

smh

A dude that could be swimming in pussy and literally pick any brazillian women he wanted to date, this is what he comes up with. I don't understand it.

[Sailor]

(01-27-2014 10:40 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 01:46 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

Ive got one here's a picture of Robinho a pretty famous football player who played for Real Madrid and Manchester city. Heres a pic of him and his wife

smh

A dude that could be swimming in pussy and literally pick any brazillian women he wanted to date, this is what he comes up with. I don't understand it.

They were togheter before he got rich,it seems he "had to" marry her when she was pregnant and from what i've heard they separated less than 3 years after marrying

[runsonmagic]

(01-25-2014 09:59 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Lennon was psychologically-damaged by the absence of his mother as a child, and her death during his teens after they reconnected. Biographers frequently suggest he had an idealised sexual attraction to her. McCartney has spoken of her sex appeal.

Yoko fulfilled the mothering role for him, and he admitted this in multiple interviews. His pet name was 'Mother'.

Could be what's going on with Jackman, but, he's just always struck me as homosexual. I could see why American's mightn't pick up on it, but he's... just not traditionally masculine in the Australian way.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Men often receive more damage than society is willing to help and they're willing to express.

As someone who had some rough times growing up, I can confirm the same thing. I had a phase (pre-game) where I was definitely looking for love I didn't get growing up. Receiving that affection was more important that looks. A status difference allows men to get away with needier behavior and less attractive women will work harder to please him. Often nurturing women aren't always the most attractive.

That said, as I got my personal shit handled, did work on myself, and studied game, I found my tastes shifted. I still appreciate nurturing women, but it's not what I need - at least not as much as adventure, conquest, accomplishment, freedom, new experiences etc. - which are better provided by younger more attractive women. Those women can be "bitchier" because of the amount of male attention they received. They've never cultivated their nurturing instincts because they'd never had to.

Once one of them gets pregnant, they produce needy children who aren't properly nurtured. It's more likely with hospital birth, where the mother-child bonding process isn't given natural space, and drugs during the birth harm the natural love chemicals released. Natural childbirth, breastfeeding, affection, and maternal love are important for a young boy because if he doesn't get them then, he'll seek them out later in relationships, like an infant trying to latch on to a tit.

Of course, that isn't to say men can't overcome these things, but they're overcome through awareness. Once you see a pattern you can change it. I had to at the start of my game process, and I've seen other men do the same. Most men just don't have the leverage for self-development, which can come from either strong self-worth, or receiving such trauma when young, you either have to grow, heal, and change yourself, or die from depression.

See also: Owen Cook and Jeffy Allen from RSD, both of whom have openly talked about their crappy childhoods and having to overcome them to accomplish. Mystery is an example of someone who struggled with his and never quite overcame it, as evidenced by his suicide attempt at the opening of The Game.

[Blackmagic]

I'm going to assume that this is either a lost bet, a frat boy "gone hoggin", or the beginning of a porn scene for a BBW site. I refuse to believe a guy in that kind of shape would be attracted to women that size on a consistent basis. Then there's also the possibility that she gives ridiculous head.

[AnonymousBosch]

(01-27-2014 01:34 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

That actually makes a lot of sense. Men often receive more damage than society is willing to help and they're willing to express.

+1 for your insightful comment. Glad to see you're getting your shit together.

Building on from that: here's another theory that relates to terminally beta men with ugly, older women.

When the boy suffers emotional-damage to create a psychopathology, he remains fixated at that moment in time. He creates an idealised, fantasy version of the 'thing' he was seeking happiness from, and that's what he'll pursue, thinking it will make him happy.

What they actually do: seek out relationships that recreate the feeling of emotional-damage felt at the time of their fixation.

Lennon had an emotionally-absent mother who was largely-disinterested in him and chased her own goals and happiness in life.

Ono was an artistic woman with her own career, who was initially romantically-disinterested in John and claimed to be ignorant of the Beatles, and was patronising about their 'little pop songs', claimed to be the better artist, and said she saw John as her sideman, not vice-versa. She even farmed him off sexually on her personal assistant for a few years. Is there a stronger way of showing how little you value a man's sexual attention?

Can you see how he's chasing Julia again? He hasn't sought out someone who can love, support and nuture him unconditionally, but someone who *doesn't need him* and could always walk away from him at any moment, recreating his abandonment and emotional trauma, reinforcing the absent toxic relationship he knew.

Now think about this in terms of all the modern 'male feminist' types you see at universities. Their mothers were feminists. (less nurturing), most likely higher IQs, (less nurturing), and probably had their children later in life (less nurturing due to older woman's declining production of Oxycontin in her body, which has usually tailed off about 40, higher levels of which make women more caring and selfless).

They've been denied, genuine, nurturing relationships from their mother, and feel the huge void that has left in their life, but their emotional trauma results in them seeking out 'feminist' women, rather than 'feminine' ones: emotionally-detached women who can't nuture them. Mothers. He'll mistakenly-believe he can win her love, when it's actually the absence of the possibility of unconditional love from her that is attracting him.

[Dusty]

^^^

[void]

(01-27-2014 10:16 AM)Candlejack Wrote:  

(01-27-2014 09:55 AM)Vice Wrote:  

This dude isn't high-status but it is sort of relevant... I just had to post this







Maybe someone needs to start a "Ripped dudes with ugly chicks" thread lol...

bet he needs that muscle to keep the bitch at bay

Why does he even lift? Maybe hes just buff from handling her in bed.

[AnonymousBosch]

(01-27-2014 03:49 PM)void Wrote:  

Why does he even lift? Maybe hes just buff from handling her in bed.

He's not the focus of the picture, she is. His head is always turned an angle to the camera. Her head stays upright and dominant. He's a prop.

These are not casual pictures of two people sharing a relationship. They're designed to be sexual and prove a point to the viewer.

His jaw is fiercely-set = no tongue.

No eye contact.

Based on that, I assume it's staged, not genuine. Either a gigolo or a gay bestie.

[la passione]

Can't believe I'm the first to post this (quintessential) example..



"Mother of my children" reasoning aside, there's something inherently untrustworthy about a man with such warped priorities (assuming he wasn't getting any on the side)

[la passione]

She must have been an early wall-hitter, since this pic from the 1940's when she would have been 20-something is the best she ever looked, from what I could gather

[samsamsam]

(01-27-2014 10:40 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 01:46 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

Ive got one here's a picture of Robinho a pretty famous football player who played for Real Madrid and Manchester city. Heres a pic of him and his wife

smh

A dude that could be swimming in pussy and literally pick any brazillian women he wanted to date, this is what he comes up with. I don't understand it.

Is it the one on the left or the right? lol.

[rudebwoy]

Barbara Bush is from a certain bloodline, people like these marry for political reasons not for looks.
The other guys are just shocking.
Christie isnt anything to look at, he is a fat slob. So his wife is perfect for him.
Brosnan is getting on in age and probably doesn't really care, but still James Bond.
Robinho is a shocker for me, I always looked at him and imagined the Brazilian tail he must get.

[ChocolateCockOfZeus]

(01-26-2014 10:44 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 04:17 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I'll go for the 7 who's lively and funny, and genuinely happy to see me, over the 8.5 how distant and slightly bitchy, always wondering if she could get a better deal then me....

This will probably be a controversial statement, but I've never found 'beautiful' women, (8 and up), hugely-bitchy, even when I wasn't particularly high-value in my teens and twenties. Maybe because I was exposed to the beautiful cliques my sister walked in. Maybe I've just been damn lucky. From my experience, (and this presuming a solid upbringing where they've suffered no major psychological damage) with the usual understanding of NAWALT:

The natural 8-9's - meaning they have always existed as 'beautiful', are the most consistently-pleasant women I've ever met. They're aware of the power of their beauty, and usually have both personal goals and expectations of success for both them and their partner, which I consider healthy. They're fun to be around, don't act masculine, and aren't carrying chips on their shoulders. The trick is to approach them without being intimidated, absolutely sure that you belong there.

Then there's the 'late blooming 8's'. They might have been fat as children, or developed late, or mastered personal grooming and style. This is where bitchiness starts creeping in. It's their insecurity about the change that has happened. Maybe they're frightened they'll slip back. They sometimes need to remind you and others they're beautiful, so the attitude starts.

The 6-7.5 range is the danger zone. They delude themselves they're hotter than they are; so their expectations are higher and more unrealistic; and their insecurity means they're likely to publicly-humiliate any sub-standard guy who approaches or any girl who pisses them off to feel better about themselves. They're far sluttier, as sex with 'hot' guys flatters their self-image and makes them believe they're more beautiful than they are.

Why are they so unrealistically-bitchy, where the 9's aren't? I suspect it's performance. They want to believe they're a hot girl, but due to their lower sexual value, they've always been excluded from 'beautiful cliques' so their idea of how hot girls act comes from, you guessed it, fantasy depictions from television and movies, where hot girls are always mean bitches, (unless it's a movie where the nerd wins the heart of one to the disgust of her mean bitch clique).

Cougars, ratchets and single mothers cling to this fantasy the hardest, and are the vilest bitches you'll ever meet. The less 'all that' she is, the nastier she'll act to reinforce her belief that she is.

Obviously, the Feminist Threshold (5 down) is where bitchiness turns into constant combativeness against the entire world.

Just my experience. Is it a cultural thing? My country isn't known for high standards of female beauty.

Dude, after reading this I thought about my experience with this. This is money. I remember even back in high school, the prettiest and most popular girls were also the nicest and most fun. The only girls I had any kind of issue with back then were the undesirable ones.

Makes me wonder where the Hollywood image of the beautiful girls being bitches and the undesirable girls being sweethearts came...oh, never mind. Just another case of Hollywood propaganda effecting perception.

[KorbenDallas]

I don't Anon Bosch, your argument is sound logically, but it doesn't fit with my personal experience. I had an emotionally absent, borderline cruel, mother, and I strongly prefer nurturing, caring, young, sexy girls. I think they're are lots of factors at play, and you may be right and I might be an exception. I'm not an expert.

Some of the male feminists have a form of male hamsterism going on. It's not like they could even get young hot nurturing pussy if they wanted to, so, they rationalize why they like disgusting shoggoths and then try to claim some kind of moral authority for being more attracted to overweight masculine feminists.

This obv isn't the case with Lennon, so, your probably correct with him.

[Sp5]

(01-28-2014 06:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Barbara Bush is from a certain bloodline, people like these marry for political reasons not for looks.

GHWB had one pretty well known affair with his secretary, Jennifer Fitzgerald. Then there were stories of him with an Italian woman in the 1960s and even Condi Rice, although I don't believe that.

[AnonymousBosch]

(01-29-2014 03:15 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

I don't Anon Bosch, your argument is sound logically, but it doesn't fit with my personal experience. I had an emotionally absent, borderline cruel, mother, and I strongly prefer nurturing, caring, young, sexy girls. I think they're are lots of factors at play, and you may be right and I might be an exception. I'm not an expert.

This is deep Freudian Psych, mate, hard to explain to beginners, so I apologise for being abstract or vague. I'm refering to obviously-odd men like Jackman, or those Feminist-Supporters, not every man with a bad mother.

I'm talking about the men who were psychologically-damaged by their treatment and unhealthily-fixated on the phantom mother figure.

Not all men will fixate. Some men will process trauma on their own, others will be traumatised but respond to therapy, leading both types to have healthy adult relationships with women capable of love. Congratulations, you have your shit together!

Also be aware there's different degrees of wounding. I was working out with the mate with the fat girlfriend I discussed earlier in the thread today, and got talking about his family. I steered it towards "Tell me about your mother..." Yeah, I'm a prick, but I was curious.

His mother was crazy. She'd abandon them for days on end, or be desperately needy, threatening to kill herself if, for example, he went to school. He came home a couple of times to find her having cutting herself for attention, or having cut her wrists. He said he spent a good amount of his teenage years in the ER.

Him having such an ugly, abrasive partner is starting to make sense, beyond simple explanations of being 'gay'. He's fucked up, and has what is known as an dismissive avoidant-attachment style. He's very reserved about friendship, making commitments to train, (can't make plans, if you're here, I'm here), and his girlfriend actually said "He's so independent I sometimes wonder if we're dating," and then his teenage son said "I never see him much." That's all textbook damage from his mother.

It's fascinating. I'll see if I can subtly steer him towards clarity if we keep spotting each other and socialising.

Women can also do this with their fathers. You've heard the old saying that a woman has married a man exactly like her dad? Most women don't have the emotional-resilience and ability to mentally detach from negative societal judgement such an admission would cause them to even entertain this as a realistic possibility, so Feminists spin the hamster into overtime, and demonise Freud because of it. To be honest, the abstract concepts that are the core of his work are simply beyond their mental horsepower to process. The smartest women I've ever come across have been Freudian Psychs.

His theories particularly hit a nerve with Feminists because they were based on an homogenous sample group - almost all upper class women of privilege, like Feminists. As such, the theories they find personally-offensive are very accurate in explaining their behaviour, but you can see how horrified a Narcissist would be if other people thought she was in love with her father, or sexually-neurotic.

[KorbenDallas]

Good points Bosch. And while my mom didn't screw up what I like in women, she def screwed with my psyche in other ways. It's taken me longer to get my shit together than it would have if I had had a more functioning mother. She wrecked my confidence during my teenage years. No one ever talks about the damage bad mothers do in mainstream society...Can't offend the womynz...

[Swedreams]

High school sweethearts.

[Dusty]

^^^^

Sample 4523677535667678

Men age better than women.

[AnonymousBosch]

(01-29-2014 04:52 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Good points Bosch. And while my mom didn't screw up what I like in women, she def screwed with my psyche in other ways. It's taken me longer to get my shit together than it would have if I had had a more functioning mother. She wrecked my confidence during my teenage years. No one ever talks about the damage bad mothers do in mainstream society...Can't offend the womynz...

Stop thinking about it as 'eventually got'. What matters is that you got your shit together. The handicap and time it took are unimportant, and can be discarded from your self-conception. It's evidence of being a strong, highly-resilient person. A man, rather than a boy. Be proud of yourself, and keep working on improving.

[Menace]

Is that Eliott Hulse?

[Lucario]

Another thing that causes medium to high status men to pick out ugly/fat wives is the lack of shame amongst men for the women they pick.

Like men won't call out other men for dating ugly women, they generally keep it to themselves unless they are alpha and not blue pill like most men.

I mean when you see young guys marrying cougars and making out with fat ugly chicks...you know his friends are not calling out on his choice of women.

Women on the other hand call out other female friends for choosing ugly/short/low status men..then the women has to justify to her friend why she is dating/fucking him and if her friends do not approve, she loses her place and power in the group. A woman's status in life is determined by the men she date/attracts.

Standard female herd mentality 101.

Men on the other had their own individual and not fully held down by the herd mentality women have.