[jtbabycarrots]

(01-17-2014 12:18 AM)Fender_Bender Wrote:  

Got herp a little over a year ago...shit sucks since my notch count is only 8 and I used condoms for nearly every encounter. Didn't fucking matter, I got it outside of the coverage area. Never hooked up with any obviously sketchy girls either. I'm living proof "wrap it up" doesn't give any guarantees, I have shitty luck I guess. Still don't know what girl gave it to me since none of them had visible symptoms and I didn't show any until after a 6 month dry spell. Currently trying to break the dry spell I've had since my diagnosis...since I'm a resourceful mothafucka I've devised a way to fuck without spreading even considering asymptomatic viral shedding but it is definitely not optimal, and definitely not raw dogging. Haven't been able to try it out yet, my game is still recovering from the massive hit I took psychologically from the diagnosis and the resulting depressive abyss I fell into. It has a really shitty stigma unfortunately and it definitely sucks to hear people joke about it like only dirty fucks have it. Only way has been up since then so I look forward to pounding some pussy soon enough. You learn a lot about yourself from an experience like this. I don't wish it on anyone. The crazy thing is that a ton of people have it and never show symptoms, yet can still transmit. Probably what happened to me. Ignorance truly is bliss I suppose in this case.

I feel you brother. I got HPV from one of two girls. I think they both had it. We talked about it in an around about way. Basically both girls were like, "get over it".

It actually went away within a few weeks, but it caused a secondary bacterial infection - similar to a UTI, like what girls get.

I kept going to doctors and they kept telling me there was nothing wrong - that it was all in my head.

Ultimately I dealt with it by going to Brazil where I could get over the counter antibiotics. I got the strongest stuff I could and within three days I was a new man.

However the mental scar is still there. To this day (years later) I have to go down on a girl before I can nail her. It's like I have to get comfortable with a new pussy.

Would a condom have prevented all of this - probably.

It also caused me to miss out on having a relationship with one amazing girl and cut short a relationship with another model hot one because I either had symptoms and didn't want to f*ck or just wasn't the same, confident guy in bed.

Now I wrap up the first time with a new girl - even though I don't want to.

And, unfortunately, if she doesn't tell me to wrap up I next her. I figure if she doesn't tell me to wrap up she isn't telling anyone else to wrap up so that pussy must be dirty.

I couldn't imagine how difficult something like this would be when you've only had 8 girls though.

I guess you can look at the silver lining at least; quality is better than quantity.

[TigerMandingo]

(01-16-2014 11:28 PM)Nemausus Wrote:  

I've accepted the fact that I'll probably have to deal with STIs here and there. It's the price you pay to live the rawdog player lifestyle.

[Avon Barksdale]

(01-20-2014 09:09 PM)Wargasm Wrote:  

(01-19-2014 10:49 PM)Slade Wilson Wrote:  

(01-19-2014 04:08 AM)Mujeriego Wrote:  

The one and only std I ever caught was molloscum. It's painless but annoying due to it being hard to get rid of (it's highly contagious). The doctor curettes or freezes the bumps off and you go about your day. It took 3-4 treatments over 3 months to get rid of it.

molloscum is not an std, I remember getting it when I was a kid

Molloscum can be spread sexually and non-sexually. I got some bumps on my dick and balls and was worried it was warts. My doctor told me it was molluscum and zapped them off.

Since I got it sexually i'm counting it as an STD. It hasn't slowed my propensity to raw-dog however. Although science probably won't back me up, I don't think young rich pretty college girls can spread STDs.

Hmm alright I both it is then.

[Fender_Bender]

(01-20-2014 10:30 PM)jtbabycarrots Wrote:  

I feel you brother. I got HPV from one of two girls. I think they both had it. We talked about it in an around about way. Basically both girls were like, "get over it".

It actually went away within a few weeks, but it caused a secondary bacterial infection - similar to a UTI, like what girls get.

I kept going to doctors and they kept telling me there was nothing wrong - that it was all in my head.

Ultimately I dealt with it by going to Brazil where I could get over the counter antibiotics. I got the strongest stuff I could and within three days I was a new man.

However the mental scar is still there. To this day (years later) I have to go down on a girl before I can nail her. It's like I have to get comfortable with a new pussy.

Would a condom have prevented all of this - probably.

It also caused me to miss out on having a relationship with one amazing girl and cut short a relationship with another model hot one because I either had symptoms and didn't want to f*ck or just wasn't the same, confident guy in bed.

Now I wrap up the first time with a new girl - even though I don't want to.

And, unfortunately, if she doesn't tell me to wrap up I next her. I figure if she doesn't tell me to wrap up she isn't telling anyone else to wrap up so that pussy must be dirty.

I couldn't imagine how difficult something like this would be when you've only had 8 girls though.

I guess you can look at the silver lining at least; quality is better than quantity.

I appreciate your post. I got diagnosed soon after I started getting into game about 2 years ago. Once I started seeing some success and building momentum with confidence I got smacked with a shit sandwich of bad luck. I've come a long way since then and have a much better mindset now but it fucked me up for a while. The stigma sucks, doctors are worthless "it's just a skin condition blah blah we don't even test for it" and it is very much a psychological disease that will make you question your personal ethics and philosophy. At the risk of sounding dramatic, it is a Rubicon of personal responsibility and changes your approach to sex forever. It's not a big deal and a big deal at the same time.

Funny thing is that I probably got it while wearing a condom because I don't get outbreaks anywhere within condom coverage area. I will never preach to people about raw dogging because in my case it didn't matter. Can't believe there isn't an alternative to condoms that is more effective for the entire area.

Someone mentioned molluscum, I had that shit too years ago. Dealt with it for about a year. On my junk, I would cut the cheesy core shit out with a needle and use ACV to sanitize and heal the affected area. It also brings the bumps to the surface if you apply a soaked paper towel for a few hours. Got on that ACV tip early!

The microorganisms of this world need to give my dick a fucking break haha. I hardly ever get sick otherwise, my immune system is pretty good.

I wonder if the person who gave it to me even knew they had it...I still don't know for sure who did and it doesn't matter that much to me now

[soup]

New super deadly STD supposedly worse than AIDS:

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-new...er-of-days

[commiejoe]

Doesn't seem like a very effective virus if it kills in a few days, it's whole survival as a species depends on how much dick/poon each person gets in a day or three. 50% mortality rate? That's just too high to make it.

[jtbabycarrots]

I've come a long way since then and have a much better mindset now but it fucked me up for a while.
[/quote]

It's amazing how the mental side of life is really all there is.

[Avon Barksdale]

(01-23-2014 01:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

New super deadly STD supposedly worse than AIDS:

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-new...er-of-days

Well thats just fuckin lovely

[Fender_Bender]

(01-23-2014 01:35 AM)jtbabycarrots Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 12:39 AM)Fender_Bender Wrote:  

I've come a long way since then and have a much better mindset now but it fucked me up for a while.

It's amazing how the mental side of life is really all there is.
[/quote]

Yeah dude...it took a long time to accept it but I suppose it's a trial in a life pretty much unmarred by significant tragedy. It made me stronger for sure. Now I just need to get fucking laid and break this dry spell! Then I will really get some momentum going. It's almost like the chicks can sense the desperation when you haven't gotten laid in a while.

[YoungBlood]

I remember last summer banging 3 chicks in constant rotation. I had a bottom bicth that would always come over and she would call me after the club to service that pussy. I liked her better because she was so damn flexible...

But, as they say, all good things come to an end.

about a month into this, I got gonorrhea from this slut. After my second discharge, I was freakig out internally. At the time, the doctors office was closed and I couldnt wait to rush in that building and get the antibiotics because I knew I had it. Funny thing is the doctor who checked my piece was a slim indian girl, about a 7 and all I thought about was banging her right there in the room. I received my results about a week later and told all the other girls about it. I knew my primary ho gave it to me but she wouldnt admit it. After she got tested she told me her tests came back negative. She then had the nerve to ask for an apology. I didn't text back anything and I nver heard from her since.

I did however, run into her ex bestfriend at a bar. Surprisingly, she was warm to me and not as cold as some girls get when you stop talking to her friend. Anyway, the conversion slowly turned into the bottom bith and I asked her if she did give me something. She hesitated but eventually told me that she did have gonorrhea at the time, but was too ashamed to tell me. I was pissed, no lie. At the time, I swore that if I saw her, I would slap the living slut out of her but I cooled down eventually.

Lesson here is some bitches will lie just to protect an image.

With all that said, I guess I still didn't learn my lesson because I'm still team rawdog.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

Pussy ain't worth STDs. I keep my opinion: they're a gift no one wants to receive.

[Onto]

Of course no one wants an STD, but isn't interesting how we don't have this same kind of dread about catching the flu from someone? What's that all about?

[CaliforniaSupreme]

(01-26-2014 06:26 PM)Onto Wrote:  

Of course no one wants an STD, but isn't interesting how we don't have this same kind of dread about catching the flu from someone? What's that all about?

When you get the flu, you sneeze a bit and are off of work for a day or two. When you catch a STD, shit grows on and drips out of your manhood. That's a whole different level.

[jtbabycarrots]

(01-26-2014 04:38 PM)Fender_Bender Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 01:35 AM)jtbabycarrots Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 12:39 AM)Fender_Bender Wrote:  

I've come a long way since then and have a much better mindset now but it fucked me up for a while.

It's amazing how the mental side of life is really all there is.

Yeah dude...it took a long time to accept it but I suppose it's a trial in a life pretty much unmarred by significant tragedy. It made me stronger for sure. Now I just need to get fucking laid and break this dry spell! Then I will really get some momentum going. It's almost like the chicks can sense the desperation when you haven't gotten laid in a while.
[/quote]

Learn how to meditate in order to learn how to quite your mind. No mind = no negative thoughts. No negative thoughts = no negative signals. No negative signals means girls will be into you. There's just one catch; you have to assume you create your own reality by taking complete responsibility for everything that happens to you in life.

[Vitriol]

We've already had a lengthy discussion about this issue in another thread and some pretty good information was dropped.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-18970.html

This article was posted and I think it does a good job dispelling a lot of the hysteria surrounding STDs.

http://markmanson.net/std-guide

[Onto]

(01-26-2014 06:58 PM)CaliforniaSupreme Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 06:26 PM)Onto Wrote:  

Of course no one wants an STD, but isn't interesting how we don't have this same kind of dread about catching the flu from someone? What's that all about?

When you get the flu, you sneeze a bit and are off of work for a day or two. When you catch a STD, shit grows on and drips out of your manhood. That's a whole different level.

I think that depends on the person and the Flu strain. When I had the flu last year I thought I was going to die and I missed out on 7 days of pay as well. Only bright spot was getting liquid hydrocodone (aka the precious).

I'll take a run of the mill STD over that experience anytime. My point is about the psychological stigma attached to STDs. doesn't really equate to what one is physically going through. Frank Zappa saw the humor of it all and even wrote a song about it.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

(01-26-2014 08:23 PM)Onto Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 06:58 PM)CaliforniaSupreme Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 06:26 PM)Onto Wrote:  

Of course no one wants an STD, but isn't interesting how we don't have this same kind of dread about catching the flu from someone? What's that all about?

When you get the flu, you sneeze a bit and are off of work for a day or two. When you catch a STD, shit grows on and drips out of your manhood. That's a whole different level.

I think that depends on the person and the Flu strain. When I had the flu last year I thought I was going to die and I missed out on 7 days of pay as well. Only bright spot was getting liquid hydrocodone (aka the precious).

I'll take a run of the mill STD over that experience anytime. My point is about the psychological stigma attached to STDs. doesn't really equate to what one is physically going through. Frank Zappa saw the humor of it all and even wrote a song about it.

Dude there's no comparison between the flu and STDs, unless you're sick enough to be in the hospital with the flu or similar. Your manhood is precious, guard it with your life!

[runsonmagic]

Curious - there is no HPV test for men. Why is this? Does HPV not affect men or is just the result of the medical industry not caring about men's issue (looking at you birth control providers)?

Can HPV even be cured in men? Isn't there a vaccine/surgery for women or something?

[ballsyamog]

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-new...er-of-days

[ballsyamog]

^new superbug more deadly than aids

[commiejoe]

if you scroll up a bit more, you'll see it's already been posted.

[clever alias]

fender-bender (cant quote on a mobile) did you herp or warts? warts can wait months to show but herp is usually within a week or two

[Distant Light]

(01-17-2014 12:18 AM)Fender_Bender Wrote:  

Got herp a little over a year ago...shit sucks since my notch count is only 8 and I used condoms for nearly every encounter. Didn't fucking matter, I got it outside of the coverage area. Never hooked up with any obviously sketchy girls either. I'm living proof "wrap it up" doesn't give any guarantees, I have shitty luck I guess. Still don't know what girl gave it to me since none of them had visible symptoms and I didn't show any until after a 6 month dry spell. Currently trying to break the dry spell I've had since my diagnosis...since I'm a resourceful mothafucka I've devised a way to fuck without spreading even considering asymptomatic viral shedding but it is definitely not optimal, and definitely not raw dogging. Haven't been able to try it out yet, my game is still recovering from the massive hit I took psychologically from the diagnosis and the resulting depressive abyss I fell into. It has a really shitty stigma unfortunately and it definitely sucks to hear people joke about it like only dirty fucks have it. Only way has been up since then so I look forward to pounding some pussy soon enough. You learn a lot about yourself from an experience like this. I don't wish it on anyone. The crazy thing is that a ton of people have it and never show symptoms, yet can still transmit. Probably what happened to me. Ignorance truly is bliss I suppose in this case.

Damn, remind me of my boy lost his virginity and like the 2nd or 3rd girl he had sex with gave him chlamydia. I'm no longer fear STDs after going on a whore fest and only having a SCARE. I had to tell one of my girls who was pissed at first but we then rekindled our attraction for each other.

Ironic back when I was stressing, one of my female friends revealed that she's had an STD before. In the end, I was SAFE despite the rampage I was on. I still can't believe it hahahaahah. (think raw period sex)

P.S...Funny story, another female friend of mine was talking about how a chick at an after party was mentioning how I possibly have an STD (I openly spoke about it to people) which i find hilarious because they chick didn't really know me only knew of me.

[Fender_Bender]

(01-27-2014 04:50 AM)clever alias Wrote:  

fender-bender (cant quote on a mobile) did you herp or warts? warts can wait months to show but herp is usually within a week or two

Herpes. I mentioned earlier that I was in the middle of a six month dry spell when my symptoms started. So at least six months passed before symptoms showed, and who knows, maybe I carried it longer from a previous partner without knowledge. I get it on the base of the shaft and on a portion of my sack. I was probably wearing a condom when I got it. I've only had a few outbreaks in the two years I've had it. I have done a ton of research since diagnosis and it turns out that a decent percentage of the population carries the virus and does not show symptoms. So theoretically you could have it and never have an outbreak, yet still pass it on to someone else through asymptomatic shedding. Also you can be an asymptomatic carrier for weeks, months, even years before showing symptoms. It's a devil of a virus. Another reason why the stigma is so maddening. You hear jokes and shit about it all the time like it's some disease that only dirty scumbags and prostitutes have when in reality the people making the jokes could quite possibly have it themselves. In fact most of the people who have the virus never show symptoms. It's the unlucky ones who do get the symptoms and have physical confirmation that they have it that get to deal with all the bullshit. Those who never show symptoms can be ignorant and even pass it on to others with no "trail" since as far as they know they are "clean."

Once you have it and know it you are faced with the dilemma of whether to disclose (I plan to) and how to deal with the consequences. I have devised a method to put the transmission risk at approaching zero but I have yet to try it. Roughly described it's a modified pair of rubber fetish shorts that allows for coverage of areas outside the condom protection that would prevent asymptomatic shedding from contacting a girl's skin. Sounds ridiculous, and yes it looks ridiculous, but it's better than not getting laid.

I wish there was an easy way to know who else has herpes without outing it publicly. There have to be so many hot chicks with it that are ashamed and would love a guy they could have raw dog sex with without shame or risk. Possibly would be more faithful as a result. The STD dating sites are fucking garbage and most cost money. I would love to raw dog again without feeling like a scumbag who is spreading disease.

I don't mean to hijack the thread with my sob story but there is a lot of spotty info out there regarding STDs.

[Vaughn]

(01-30-2014 12:25 AM)Fender_Bender Wrote:  

You hear jokes and shit about it all the time like it's some disease that only dirty scumbags and prostitutes have when in reality the people making the jokes could quite possibly have it themselves.

True. It's quite possible that a quarter or more of the regulars on this site have it but with no symptoms or occasional mild symptoms. High notch count = higher risk. The omegas aren't getting it playing WoW and watching Family Guy. I think its the STD that people don't talk about. Always hear about warts or gono, something that can be fixed relatively easily with pills or a zap from a laser. Rarely hear herpe mentioned, despite it being more common than those others. I think with herpe its don't ask don't tell, unless you have misfortune of regular symptoms and can't play that game.