[Samseau]

(11-19-2013 05:28 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

As an aside, WSJ article on inherited money:

Lost Inheritance

Quote:

But if the past is any prelude, inheritors, especially those who are new to the family-windfall phenomenon, face an unpleasant reality: They're likely to blow it. Although it's not widely discussed, financial advisers say that new riches prove particularly hard to hold onto—and even harder to patiently nurture and grow. Indeed, research shows that family money rarely survives the transfer for long, with 70 percent evaporated by the end of the second generation. By the end of the third? Ninety percent. Hence the old saw, "Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations."

The most obvious reason, of course, is that money gets spread thinly over fast-growing family trees. But wealth managers also say many people are simply inexperienced at handling large piles of dough in any disciplined way—think of the so-called sudden-wealth syndrome experienced by lottery winners and many professional athletes. Another common trend advisers see? A belief among some inheritors that, hey, it's permanent vacation time, and there's no need to create any new income streams. "There's a mentality that something will come from somewhere," says Stacy Allred, director of the wealth structuring group at Merrill Lynch Private Banking and Investment Group, which has $130 billion under management.

The 3 reasons families lose their money:

1. Dad marries a shit wife who raises shit daughters, who do not appreciate the Dad nor his hard work nor understand how to make money. They spend way too much and when inheritance time comes the shitty women make sure to take more than their fair share. Since the women aren't the ones who carry the family line, the family suffers because the men are left without.

2. Crazy sons go nuts with the money, and get into drugs/gambling/partying far too much, and blow everything on risky business ventures or stocks or bad business ideas.

3. Catastrophe. Bad luck happens.

If you notice, of these three reasons, 1 + 2 are both preventable with good parenting. But, it seems that good parenting is one of those forgotten arts. It takes a good wife, which means you need a good understanding of woman's psychology, and a good understanding of children's psychology to build a successful family.

[Pyre]

Hmm would you rather inherit 10mil or work hard for it?

The lazy in me would much rather inherit it.

Damn, where are the rich fucks in my family?

[RexImperator]

I was just watching a documentary about Harry Selfridge, the London department store founder. He let his girlfriend gamble most of his fortune away until he was left with basically nothing.

[ElJefe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bilzerian

Read about this guys Dad.

It's in his blood to be a hound.

[Wahawahwah]

What's a textbook Alpha Male?

[mental]

Why should any one of you get mad if he does lots of "bad" things and gets away with it? He may seem like a douchebag or whatever, but evidently he doesn't care about people getting mad at him, so why bother getting angry?

[RussianRootCanal]

If it was all money and genetics his brother would lead the same lifestyle, however there's a certain hunger for life that leads certain players to a different level of the game.

[xpatplayer]

I don't get the hate in this thread. He's worth a shit-ton of money and he's making the most of it. Heck, I'd probably do the same if I had the money he did (wouldn't post everything on Instagram though).

[samsamsam]

(12-06-2013 01:15 PM)RussianRootCanal Wrote:  

If it was all money and genetics his brother would lead the same lifestyle, however there's a certain hunger for life that leads certain players to a different level of the game.

Or different fathers

[presidentcarter]

I've been needing some inspiration lately and I have to say this guy inspires me in some ways. I've always been a gambler, had some crazy life/health mishaps, rock the beard, and I like his don't give a fuck attitude and some of his priorities (having fun, girls, fitness). Say what you will about his instagram-whoring and his inherited wealth (not sure how much he got anyway, as his dad got into some legal trouble and he had to bail him out), but I like this dude. This is his interview on Howard Stern (maybe this was posted elsewhere, didn't see it though).

[bojangles]

Cheers for that, I like how he acts.

[Mentavious]

Apparently Drew Rosenhaus's wife was partying on this guys boat. When he found out about this he quickly filed for divorce. Good thing he has a pre nup.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/21/drew-rosen...c-blowout/

[Clemmo]

(11-19-2013 03:58 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Anyone picking this guy apart is no different than a frumpy girl talking shit about a chick who is super sexy and still down to earth with a nice personality.

A lot of people can't stand the idea that someone is actually doing that much better than them. It's an insecurity and ego-preservation thing.

"Oh, well, yeah maybe that guy is killing it and living a totally charmed life, but ...insert criticism here... blah blah.

Part of being successful is learning to recognize and appreciate the success of others without feeling insecure yourself.

Instead of trying to tear others down to your level, you should try to raise yourself up to theirs.

Co-Sign 100%. My belief is always "Never get jealous who's at the top, just work to get at their level.".

[Hombre]

Love this recent photo. That’s model Suelyn Medeiros, who has more than two million followers on Instagram. A guy with that kind of clout get a girl to do or pose for anything.

[jordypip23]

Funny that you just resurrected this thread. The NY Post had a helluva a writeup on the fella today. Made the online edition of the paper's front page. Worth a read:

Meet the playboy millionaire blowing up Instagram - NY Post

Dan Bilzerian, the poker-playing multimillionaire, has become famous for blowout bashes that easily rival Playboy Mansion bacchanals.

Revelers pile into Bilzerian’s 31,000-square-foot Bel Air, Calif., compound, where, he told The Post, “clothing is always optional.”

When the bachelor, 37, isn’t at home in California, he’s often at his luxe pad in Las Vegas, or snowboarding with Olympian Shaun White in New Zealand, or partying with friends in Tahiti or Ibiza, or racing dune buggies in the desert, or yachting around Italy’s Pontine Islands. One Instagram post shows him visiting Shanghai, China, “for no reason at all.”

In August, he and his brother flew to their ancestral homeland of Armenia, an adventure that ended when neighboring Azerbaijan issued an arrest warrant for Bilzerian — something to do with allegations that he obtained ­grenades illegally and “demonstratively” shot off missile launchers at a gun range.

It’s a high-flying lifestyle that’s earned him some 24.5 million followers on Instagram, where he shows off his world with no shame — even as critics say he objectifies and exploits the bikini-clad (or -less) women who pose for his photos. In March 2017, he created an uproar by posting a picture of himself relaxing in a hot tub and using a topless, bent-over female as a dinner table. “It’s national women’s day, be thankful,” he wrote.

It certainly didn’t help things when, in January, he wrote: “This #metoo s–t is getting out of control, guys getting their lives ruined over touching a girl’s back or hitting on someone.”

Female attendees wishing to attend Bil­zerian’s bashes must abide by his door policy: “If you come with ugly chicks, you won’t get in; I keep the parties exclusive and it becomes a matter of there being only so much space.” And yet, some women will go to almost any length to party with him.

“They’ll text pictures of their [bare butts] and for sure offer to hook up with me,” he said. “I get that a lot.”

Caitlin O’Connor, 28, is an actress and frequent attendee at Bilzerian’s bashes. “I’ve been to parties where girls are walking around naked,” she said, likening Bil­zerian to a modern day Hugh Hefner. “There are threesomes, foursomes, everybody doing what they want without pressure. These things happen naturally in Dan’s habitat. The girls there are all ­super-hot. They’re all 10s. You need to bring something to the table.”

She insists she and the other women at his parties are in no way exploited, or at least not in any way they don’t wish to be: “It feels empowering to be young and without judgment.”

Bilzerian hit public consciousness around a decade ago as a high-stakes poker player with a penchant for posting his larger-than-life exploits on then- ­nascent social-media sites. One ridiculous bit, viewable on YouTube, had him test-driving a bulletproof vest by shooting at his pal Antonio Esfandiari. (The vest worked.)

When Instagram exploded, so did Bil­zerian’s money-spewing jet-setting reputation. Then again, he had something of a head start. The son of uber-wealthy corporate raider Paul Bilzerian, he grew up in a Tampa, Fla., lakefront mansion with an indoor basketball court. But things came crashing down in 1989 when his father, who had made a fortune from hostile bids on companies such as Hammermill Paper, was found guilty of stock and tax fraud and served 13 months in prison.

“Basically, I didn’t get a lot of attention as a kid,” Dan told the Daily Mail in 2013. “I guess that’s why I’m such a flashy lunatic.”

Following high school, he washed out after 510 days of Navy SEAL training and failed to graduate from the University of Florida. Instead, the trust-funder turned to poker, first playing online and then bringing as much as $100,000 to games in Nevada. He claims to have won $50 million between 2013 and 2014, eventually investing a good chunk of money in cryptocurrency.

Along the way, he developed a knack for engaging others with his tales of excess — gambling, girls, high-powered weapons and fast cars — and came to embody an aspirational lifestyle for macho bro strivers. It’s memorialized in a song by T-Pain and Lil Yachty that includes the line: “I get 10 Brazilians like I’m Dan Bilzerian.”

Dan also has a talent for dropping names and numbers, lacing his Facebook posts with photos of six-figure stacks of poker chips and him posing with stars such as Tom Hardy at the “Venom” premiere.

Bilzerian’s latest shindig was the launch of Ignite Cannabis, touted as the world’s first international legal-weed company, for which he is both the face and the chairman. The event attracted an estimated 1,500 guests, was budgeted at some $500,000 (including $25,000 for sushi) and featured the mask-wearing DJ Marshmallow.

As for whether or not the DJ hooked up with anyone at the party, “I’m not going to speak to that,” Bilzerian said with a laugh. “But any celebrity who comes to my house and wants to get laid is going to get laid.”

Bold-face names who’ve partied at Bil­zerian’s pleasure pad include actors Adrian Grenier, Vin Diesel and Chris Brown, “The Hangover” director Todd Phillips and rapper Ludacris.

As for female guests, they’re less likely to be household names. “Honestly,” said Bil­zerian, “I try to stay away from the famous chicks and LA girls in general. I personally prefer girls from the Midwest. They’re more appreciative. They haven’t been on 50 private jets and been to Dubai ­every three weeks.”

Abby Rao, a cosmetologist from Mandeville, La., accepted her first Bilzerian invitation last month. “I was a little out of my element,” admitted the 21-year-old, whose attendance at the Ignite party extended from her desire to be a spokesmodel for the company. “I’m from a small town, so it was a bit of a culture shock. There were a lot of gorgeous girls, a lot of people free with their bodies. Dan and I connected that night and I held my own [among the other women]. I went back a week later, just to hang out. Now I’m moving to LA.”

She should probably brace herself.

“I once saw midgets [having sex with] two girls in the bathroom,” said Bilzerian of one of his house parties. “Then [another] girl began filming it and one of the girls got mad. She started a fistfight with the one who was filming them. I had to throw both girls out. After that, a midget was smoking cigarettes in the middle of my living room. I had to throw his ass out. Cigarettes are f–king disgusting. You can smoke weed in my house but not cigarettes.”

To make sure guests stay in line, Bil­zerian’s events tend to be seeded with security. At his bash for Ignite, there were 35 guards with rifles and machine guns. “If anybody was going to f–k with this party, there was going to be a gunfight,” he said. “Last time I had a party, some a–hole pulled a gun at the gate . . . We didn’t have 35 guys with long guns at the time. Now that is the ­policy.”

Though most people wouldn’t be all that comfortable around enough firepower to overtake an embassy, Bilzerian is no stranger to guns. He’s got an extensive weapons collection (mostly stashed in Las Vegas, where firearm laws are lax; his least expensive gun, he says, goes for $5,000) and has been known to put together Mojave Desert jaunts designed around bringing junker cars onto the sand and shooting them up with heavy artillery. At one such outing in 2014, he blew up a tractor-trailer — which resulted in allegations by Nevada authorities that he detonated a homemade bomb.

Arrested and briefly held, Bilzerian settled for misdemeanor charges (failing to extinguish a fire in the open), paid a fine and agreed to appear in a public-service announcement. In the video, which is viewable on YouTube, he deadpans, “Be responsible with guns and exploding targets. Jail? Let’s not do that again.”

One hazard of hanging with Bilzerian is that sometimes guests might be too wasted to even attend the shoot-’em-ups.

“I accidentally ate two big weed cookies at Dan’s house in Vegas and was high for three days,” remembered O’Connor. “We were about to go to the desert to shoot guns but I was so high that I needed to get a room. Dan hooked me up with one at the Hard Rock. Dan always hooks it up.”

While other people’s most outrageous ­experiences at Bilzerian’s digs would be something sexual, this does not hold true for the host.

“I don’t think it’s outrageous to hook up with a bunch of chicks; that happens all the time; it’s common,” he said. “Something out of the ordinary is that I got bit by an alligator at one of my parties. A friend of mine was there, a guy they call the Real Tarzan. He’s into exotic animals and brought over an alligator. We don’t sedate the animals or tape their mouths shut, which looks lame. I had alligators in Florida but this [one] was a little quicker than they were. I tried to catch him [but] he whipped around, bit me and left a scar on my leg.”

He previously kept a pair of goats, named Zeus and Beatrice, at his California home, ­although they are now living on a farm; Bilzerian can be seen on his Instagram posing with a pizza-eating monkey on his shoulder. “We’ve had almost everything [at my house]” he added.

“Giraffe, snakes, monitor lizards, etc.”

In case that fails to keep guests entertained, he’s got a 16-foot-deep pool in Vegas, is building a paint ball field there and keeps a four-lane bowling alley in the Bel Air home. “We have had girls bowling naked and that didn’t help,” Bilzerian said. “They were just as bad as when they have clothes on.”

Off the lanes, he’s changed some of his breakneck partying ways, including the cocaine-and-Viagra binges that led to him suffering two back-to-back heart attacks at 25; then there was the pulmonary embolism in 2011. He’s also slowed down his alcohol consumption. “I don’t like anything that makes you feel like s–t the next morning,” said Bil­zerian, who, in 2016, acknowledged taking ­“d–k-enlargement pills, HGH [and] testosterone.”

For now, however, Bilzerian — who has had two serious girlfriends in recent years, Playboy Playmate Jessa Hinton and model Sofia Bevarly — has no itch to tone down his sex life or settle down with one woman.

“[Hugh Hefner] was a legend and we view relationships in a similar way: monogamy is not natural for guys,” he said.

But even Instagram’s biggest party dude experiences his share of ennui. “For me [when it comes to sex], it’s more about quality than numbers,” Bilzerian said. “If I just want to [have sex with] a ton of girls, I can probably [do that with] 20 girls. I don’t want to hook up with a girl unless I feel that I will want to hook up with her again.”

Besides, he added, “If there are too many girls, it becomes distracting . . . It’s not as cool as everyone thinks.”

[Flux]

All the girls look plastic-boring, and dead in eyes from being fucked too many times

I don’t know about you guys, but a little innocence and idealism in a girl is very attractive, and these girls look as jaded and drugged up as any. They’re in pain.

The great thing about sex with multiple women is that you feel you are in some way contributing to their lives by offering them a little bit of you, your wisdom, and your love, however short it may be. I would want most of the girls I sleep with to enventually marry and be healthy mothers. Contribute positively to their lives.

These girls are empty hedonism and a path to a life of excess, drugs, and meaninglessness.

There is a much more romantic and idealized way to be a playboy, balanced out with your growth as a person, rather than with your degeneracy.

[Atticus]

Not gonna lie. Would love to live this guy's life for a while.

I'm not sure that he's apex alpha, though. Maybe my definition is different to the norm, but for me, "alpha" denotes a leader. The guy everyone looks to for leadership. The guy you trust in a foxhole, or when the chips are down. To outsiders they are vicious and ruthless, but if you're in their circle, they have your back.

These men have appeared since time immemorial since we started roving in small groups, stalking prey or rivals for food and resources in the African savannah. Men like Achilles in the Iliad. Julius Caesar. Lord Nelson. Napoleon. In business, men like Onassis.

Organised crime is probably one the few areas where alphas thrive in this day and age. The heads of bikie gangs, Triads, or someone like Tony Soprano. I've met a few of these guys, and there is a kind of electricity that surrounds them. The reason they stay alive, and rise to the top, is that people just want to be around them. They have smarts, charisma and balls.

While this guy has a great lifestyle, it just seems to me to be empty. How many parties are enough before you get sick of them? How many whores can you fuck before you get sick of them? And make no mistake, these women ARE whores. I urge everyone looking at his life with envy to drop a few grand on an expensive hotel suite, 2-3 high class call girls, and some viagra and coke (but for fuck sake, don't do both at the same time). It's not that hard.

The guy just seems like an empty vessel. A fame junkie, looking for the next dopamine hit.

[The Stronger Sex]

Quote:

“Basically, I didn’t get a lot of attention as a kid,” Dan told the Daily Mail in 2013. “I guess that’s why I’m such a flashy lunatic.”

I could guess something like this was behind his over-the-top attention whoring, more becoming of an 18-year-old slut. Well, at least he's honest about it, I guess.

[godfather dust]

(10-14-2018 01:02 PM)Atticus Wrote:  

Not gonna lie. Would love to live this guy's life for a while.

I'm not sure that he's apex alpha, though. Maybe my definition is different to the norm, but for me, "alpha" denotes a leader. The guy everyone looks to for leadership. The guy you trust in a foxhole, or when the chips are down. To outsiders they are vicious and ruthless, but if you're in their circle, they have your back.

These men have appeared since time immemorial since we started roving in small groups, stalking prey or rivals for food and resources in the African savannah. Men like Achilles in the Iliad. Julius Caesar. Lord Nelson. Napoleon. In business, men like Onassis.

Organised crime is probably one the few areas where alphas thrive in this day and age. The heads of bikie gangs, Triads, or someone like Tony Soprano. I've met a few of these guys, and there is a kind of electricity that surrounds them. The reason they stay alive, and rise to the top, is that people just want to be around them. They have smarts, charisma and balls.

While this guy has a great lifestyle, it just seems to me to be empty. How many parties are enough before you get sick of them? How many whores can you fuck before you get sick of them? And make no mistake, these women ARE whores. I urge everyone looking at his life with envy to drop a few grand on an expensive hotel suite, 2-3 high class call girls, and some viagra and coke (but for fuck sake, don't do both at the same time). It's not that hard.

The guy just seems like an empty vessel. A fame junkie, looking for the next dopamine hit.

That's my thought. I'd take that life maybe 2 years, then it would be "what am I accomplishing here. Do any of these people actually care about me" etc

I can't really imagine life without work or struggle. If he is fulfilled by that life, good for him. It would be a blast for a few years.

[jordypip23]

(10-14-2018 12:07 PM)Flux Wrote:  

All the girls look plastic-boring, and dead in eyes from being fucked too many times

I don’t know about you guys, but a little innocence and idealism in a girl is very attractive, and these girls look as jaded and drugged up as any. They’re in pain.

The great thing about sex with multiple women is that you feel you are in some way contributing to their lives by offering them a little bit of you, your wisdom, and your love, however short it may be. I would want most of the girls I sleep with to enventually marry and be healthy mothers. Contribute positively to their lives.

These girls are empty hedonism and a path to a life of excess, drugs, and meaninglessness.

There is a much more romantic and idealized way to be a playboy, balanced out with your growth as a person, rather than with your degeneracy.

I get what you're saying. Some of the chicks are maybe just a notch better than some of the stripper whores I found myself surrounded by during a past phase when I hung out a bit too often in the titty bars. A lifestyle that attracts whores (obviously) looking for quick cash often to score drugs & just get by for another relatively empty day. Many of them were friends with rather unsavory characters too lol.

[CocoBoy]

(10-14-2018 02:19 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  

But even Instagram’s biggest party dude experiences his share of ennui. “For me [when it comes to sex], it’s more about quality than numbers,” Bilzerian said. “If I just want to [have sex with] a ton of girls, I can probably [do that with] 20 girls. I don’t want to hook up with a girl unless I feel that I will want to hook up with her again.”

Besides, he added, “If there are too many girls, it becomes distracting . . . It’s not as cool as everyone thinks.”

Wise words there though. Parties, new notches, it's good to get that out of your system but it will become less interesting. At that point, you can focus on your real mission or use your experience to actually be able to pick the right girl.

[DarkTriad]

(10-14-2018 01:02 PM)Atticus Wrote:  

Not gonna lie. Would love to live this guy's life for a while.

I'm not sure that he's apex alpha, though. Maybe my definition is different to the norm, but for me, "alpha" denotes a leader. The guy everyone looks to for leadership. The guy you trust in a foxhole, or when the chips are down. To outsiders they are vicious and ruthless, but if you're in their circle, they have your back.

These men have appeared since time immemorial since we started roving in small groups, stalking prey or rivals for food and resources in the African savannah. Men like Achilles in the Iliad. Julius Caesar. Lord Nelson. Napoleon. In business, men like Onassis.

Organised crime is probably one the few areas where alphas thrive in this day and age. The heads of bikie gangs, Triads, or someone like Tony Soprano. I've met a few of these guys, and there is a kind of electricity that surrounds them. The reason they stay alive, and rise to the top, is that people just want to be around them. They have smarts, charisma and balls.

While this guy has a great lifestyle, it just seems to me to be empty. How many parties are enough before you get sick of them? How many whores can you fuck before you get sick of them? And make no mistake, these women ARE whores. I urge everyone looking at his life with envy to drop a few grand on an expensive hotel suite, 2-3 high class call girls, and some viagra and coke (but for fuck sake, don't do both at the same time). It's not that hard.

The guy just seems like an empty vessel. A fame junkie, looking for the next dopamine hit.

Would it make you fell better if you found out those really weren't poker winnings and that he was actually laundering money for a large criminal conspiracy that put Tony Soprano's earnings to shame?

[BlackFriar]

I wish dudes like this the best in life. And I pray God blesses me and every one else, just the same.

[jordypip23]

(10-15-2018 01:11 AM)BlackFriar Wrote:  

I wish dudes like this the best in life. And I pray God blesses me and every one else, just the same.

Good vibes & well wishes usually yield good vibes back in my experience. Safe to say that most of us on this site stand up for Dan Bilzerian's right to party hardy. Even with all his money, clout & stature, he has to be cautious about these #MeToo hater / SJW types. There might be sharks waiting in the water to exact revenge on the guy in the future.