Quote: (11-13-2013 10:03 PM)scorpion Wrote:
Spare me the faux outrage, speakeasy.
Let me know the next time you see a gang of white kids running around sucker punching black people for no reason.
Actually, you won't have to let me know. It will be the lead news story on all the networks and the President will hold a press conference on it.
I'm a white guy and I genuinely have no ill feelings towards black or other races. But what I do have is ill feelings toward being made to feel like I can't speak out about shitty things that blacks or other races do because "that's racist". As if white people are the only people in the world who can be criticized? Give me a break. I refuse to be guilted or shamed.
It's laughable to pretend that black culture does not silently condone this sort of criminality and delinquency among young black males. Look at the adult man being interviewed in this video. He doesn't seem upset or ashamed at all. In fact, he seems a little amused. The girls in the video also seem to have no problem with randomly assaulting people. It's as if it's simply expected that young, black males are going to be violent and there's nothing to be done about it.
And guess what - it's that stereotype of young, black males as violent troublemakers - a stereotype that black culture does nothing to discourage - that is responsible for so much racism. Blacks are their own worst enemies in this regard. Whites (and Asians and Latinos, by the way) see stories like this and it just makes them go, "What the fuck is that? Now I have to be on guard every time I walk past black kids on the street? What the hell is wrong with these people?"
If black culture is not monolithic, as you say, then why are black leaders so quick to play the victim, yet never to be seen when a black person does something wrong? Where are the black leaders condemning nonsense like this where black youths victimize whites for no reason whatsoever?
Hey look man, I'm sorry this even had to turn into a racial thread. Because when I watched the video before even reading the comments, I can assure you I was every bit as taken aback as you. You don't even want to know what I would do these motherfuckers if it was up to me to punish them. So I hope you aren't thinking that I am in any way tacitly excusing this behavior.
What stirs up people like me(and I'm sure I speak on behalf of some other black members in the forum) is that any bad behavior by black thugs is seen as a wider "black problem" rather than a problem of a subset of underclass in black America. A huge number of us don't identify with what we see here. Amongst my black friends they are all decent, hard-working people that have no connection to people that behave like that. I have no more power to stop them from doing this than you do. I don't even know any people that act this way nor do I ever even come into any personal contact with such persons. The last thing I need is people painting our entire race with a wide brush based on the behavior of a minority of street thugs. Like I said, nobody would paint the entire white race with this same brush if it was outlaw biker gangs doing the same thing. They would be viewed as a rouge underclass.
As for that man's reaction in the video you'll have to ask him what's up on that. If he grew up in the hood, he's probably seen a hell of a lot worse things than this in his time so it may not have the same shock value to him as it does to you. I don't know.
As for those girls, well, they're just typical, stupid bitches who get wet over men that act ruthless and dominating. They're following the herd. No explanation even needed there.
Quote: (11-13-2013 10:25 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:
Speakeasy- I agree with you that most blacks don't have anything to do with this. The fact is though, and I'm being lazy, so, I'm not going to do it myself, that if you look up crime statistics black on white crime is something like 4-10X higher than white on black crime.
That's not surprising, because we're dealing with two things, mathematically. 1) Blacks have a higher violent crime rate and 2) Whites vastly outnumber blacks. Let's take a hypothetical situation where the population of a country consists of 10 red people and 90 blue people. If the red people committed crime with no regards to race, 90% of their victims would be blue people. If the blue people committed crime with no regard to race, only 10% of the victims would be red people. So the blue people could argue that we are attacked 9x as much as we attack them, even when race played no factor in who attacked who and the victims were picked at random.
In reality though, the majority of crime is within a race, by far. Most black murder is unleashed upon other blacks. Most white women are raped by white men. However, in the situation where it is interracial, it is more likely to be black on white. However that does not mean MOST black crime is directed toward whites. Most crimes are crimes of opportunity, not racially motivated. If a black thug is looking to rob somebody and I'm wearing expensive jewelry, I'm gonna get robbed as quickly as any white man would.
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Also, the media has this curious habit of not reporting the race of violent black offenders or not reporting the crime at all, however, when it's a white on black crime it's suddenly national news a la Trayvon Martin.
Well, the media isn't owned by black people, so we certainly aren't behind that. But we all know there's a lot of politics and political correctness behind the media. The media
is the blue pill.
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Try putting yourself in a white person's shoes. How would it feel to you if you lived in a place, I'm from St. Louis, where, there is a percentage of black youth that attacks whites, bully nerdy white kids, steal, rob, and make their part of the city very dangerous at night. Except the power structure says your not allowed to notice this, cause then your raciss. Everyone knows that the high murder rate in St. Louis is because of black violence. People don't go downtown at night because of gangs. Except instead of addressing these problems, the media ignores it.
These issues are only discussed in terms of addressing inequality, meaning, it's white peoples fault for creating these environments. In school the only thing taught is that whites are racists, slavery, and all that. It is forbidden basically to notice that blacks have a percentage of their population that is racist. The black woman in donglegate even said it is impossible for a black person to be racist! Basically, the government-media-educational complex, has made it crime-think to acknowledge that blacks can be racist and violent. We all know whites can be racist and violent. Hollywood reminds us about 4 times a year just how racist and violent. But this whole notion that blacks can't be racist and are always victims, is going to cause whites to be resentful. Because its bullshit. Blacks can be racist. I've seen it.
There's a point in there somewhere. What I'm really trying to say is that society has this notion that only whites can be racist. And its wrong. That's what frustrates whites. I know the vast majority of blacks aren't violent racists. But some are. This is where the frustration is coming from Speakeasy.
I think the whole "blacks can't be racist" thing is pretty much over. I remember hearing that thrown around in the 90s as a result of critical race theory, but I rarely hear it now. Not outside of social-science academic circles. It's certainly not a mainstream belief.
Edit -- If it happens that this knockout game is purposely directed at whites, then it should be charged as hate crimes the same way a bunch of nazi skinheads would be charged jumping a black.