[soup]

The following post in the player's lounge is very interesting and inspired me to create a thread topic so we can have a separate place to dig into it more:

(11-04-2013 01:00 AM)LouieG Wrote:  

Tonight I noticed this girl's journal on her desk while she was in the bathroom. I've been seeing her about a month; there were pages and pages about me.

A few choice quotes re: our first date:

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WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT??

...

I guess I'd been having pretty vanilla sex, because LouieG was twisting my limbs [ed: don't ask me, I was wasted drunk] and biting me, and then he threw me against the closet door, and it wasn't gross or awkward. It was really hot.

Just doing my job, ma'am.

Later, once she ferreted out I was seeing other people:

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Maybe LouieG isn't a bad person for wanting to see other people or not be exclusive. Maybe he's just in a confusing time for himself.

Of course, I probably got an ex or two out there journaling the same shit vis–à–vis a younger me and her new guy. Around it goes...

I wrote about this a little in the thread I made a while back on how to handle any shit test.

YES- use "confusion" or being "confused" to skip so much crap that girls throws at you.

She doesn't want to have sex? She's confusing you.

I'm perpetually confused, like an innocent player child who's never been exposed to the nastiness of what it's like to be a beta, by girls' bitch tests and LMR. I always act confused when they try to run stuff on me that would deter other guys.

Imagine you are a god come down from another realm and this puny mortal girl is spouting all this nonsense at you. Maybe you'd smile at the funny noises she's making, but you wouldn't understand what she is saying.

This is why it's good to "mis-interpret" girls a lot. It derrails their frame and forces them to come into yours if they want the interaction to continue. And they will if they find you attractive enough up front.

I have friends from other countries who have very strong accents and pretend that they can't understand what girls are saying all the time. It works.

I call it the Borat principle.

Like Borat, you can get away with a lot more if you are "foreign". *

Girls will give you the benefit of the doubt and more time than they would an American man. But, you don't actually have to be from another country to makes this work. Well, you do have to sort of.. you have to comport yourself as a proud king of Poosy Paradise, where every man is an alpha with great game etc. and insolence from women is unheard of.

I also think it hits their motherly instinct button.

Anyone else do this kind of thing?

*The one thing you don't really much in the TV show is the camera crew following him around. The camera crew legitimizes his antics in the same way that being an attractive guy (dressing well, being well-groomed, in-shape, and having great body language) will allow an alpha to get away with stuff that a badly presented/shabby guy won't.

[Que enspastic]

I would add to this the "ok" principle.

In my experience saying "ok" in response to someone's attempt to put you offguard is a very effective way to remain chilled, nonreactive and above it all. It's also incredibly dismissive.

"You look desperate" - "ok"
"That was creepy" - "ok"
"You just want me for sex" - "ok"

Don't be surprised if your response induces a long rambling justification that is even easier to dismiss.

It is also a good neg if someone tells you something boring or lame.

[soup]

(11-05-2013 12:43 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

I wouldalso to this the "ok" principle.

In my experience saying "ok" in response to someone's attempt to put you offguard is a very effective way to remain chilled, nonreactive and above it all. It's also incredibly dismissive.

"You look desperate" - "ok"
"That was creepy" - "ok"
"You just want me for sex" - "ok"

Don't be surprised if your response induces a long rambling justification that is even easier to dismiss.

It is also a good neg if someone tells you something boring or lame.

Ha- this is the kind of thing my argentinian player friend does.

[AntiTrace]

(11-05-2013 12:43 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

I wouldalso to this the "ok" principle.

In my experience saying "ok" in response to someone's attempt to put you offguard is a very effective way to remain chilled, nonreactive and above it all. It's also incredibly dismissive.

"You look desperate" - "ok"
"That was creepy" - "ok"
"You just want me for sex" - "ok"

Don't be surprised if your response induces a long rambling justification that is even easier to dismiss.

It is also a good neg if someone tells you something boring or lame.

I like to pull the old childish "Homo says what" out in situations like this. I got that idea from watching Hank do it to Bill in Californication.

I also talked a bit briefly on some thread a bit back about using "What?" over and over again like you can't hear what someone is saying.

"You just want me for sex"
-What?
"You just want me for sex"
-what?
"I said YOU JUST WANT ME FOR SEX!"
-Come again?
"Jesus christ, are you deaf?"
-Whats jesus got to do with this?
"Oh now you can hear, you just want me for sex dont you"
-What?

I think it uses the same concept as to what your talking about here Soup. The difference in what I do is that I make sure its obvious I'm fucking with them. I'll say "what" over and over and over again with the biggest smirk on my face

[LEMONed IScream]

I thought this would be the awesome Borat pickup line

"My name is a Borat!
I like you.
I like sex.
Is nice."

Could work ^^

[soup]

(11-06-2013 05:08 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

I thought this would be the awesome Borat pickup line

"My name is a Borat!
I like you.
I like sex.
Is nice."

Could work ^^

I think a lot of guys were doing Borat imitations when he got big... now it would be really corny probably.

[LEMONed IScream]

Depends on the age group maybe, many girls my age wouldn't know this, and for older ones it could be a random surge of nostalgia that could make their hamsters tingle , laugh, and get on with it.

Or throw a drink at you.

(11-06-2013 05:22 PM)soup Wrote:  

(11-06-2013 05:08 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

I thought this would be the awesome Borat pickup line

"My name is a Borat!
I like you.
I like sex.
Is nice."

Could work ^^

I think a lot of guys were doing Borat imitations when he got big... now it would be really corny probably.

[Frank Mackey]

I would also add the "tradition" argument, which can be used when you meet foreign girls, specially in your home country: "It's our tradition to give one kiss in each cheek when you meet a girl first time"; "It's our tradition to share a 40% alcool schnap shot in a bar when you meet friends. It's a sign of friendship and we are used to it", and so on.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I naturally have slightly impaired hearing so I am actually utilizing this method a lot. It doesn't prevent the issue from eventually bubbling over, but overall I do think it makes me a lot calmer and easier to act dismissively towards the bullshit that girls throw at me.

Why?

Because I am never sure if she really said that or something else!

[Therapsid]

(11-05-2013 09:01 AM)soup Wrote:  

I wrote about this a little in the thread I made a while back on how to handle any shit test.

YES- use "confusion" or being "confused" to skip so much crap that girls throws at you.

She doesn't want to have sex? She's confusing you.

I'm perpetually confused, like an innocent player child who's never been exposed to the nastiness of what it's like to be a beta, by girls' bitch tests and LMR. I always act confused when they try to run stuff on me that would deter other guys.

What do you say when you're acting confused?

Say a girl is resisting and putting up LMR. She seems like her mind's pretty set, even though she let things get to your bed.

What you say or do to show how confused you are?

[soup]

After a while I'm just tell her that I'm the type of guy that needs to feel a sense if freedom and thT we are on the same team and that she's confusing me.

I've said that exact thing I think like a few times, and have actually had girls be like " wait a minute", get up and go into my bathroom, come out and say " ok , you can fuck me"

Guess what? The two most recent girls that happened with have turned into my long term girlfriend/lovers who want to do things like cool for me and sexy and all the good stuff.

[Therapsid]

Thanks soup.

I used the "I'm confused" line last night.

Worked like a charm.

Used it twice - just before banging the girl and then when she asked if I'd call her. Took your girl's diary line: "I'm in a confusing time in my life"