Bodybuilding, what is the tipping point?
WestCoast- what size suit jacket do you fit usually the chest? i know the waist has to be tapered
38-40 for me (95% of time 38). Take in both arms and waist for those, which is why I switched to custom, cost is abt the same.
Again I am a big time ecto morph so my metrics are all jacked. As an example a 36 will fit my waist, but I will rip the shoulder in the jacket. 38 usually chest is great shoulders are ok/tight, arms are parachutes and waist is like a garbage bag.
Once you start hitting the ideal proportions you pretty much have to go custom. (1.618 waist to shoulders, 9-10 inch drop chest to waist, 2.5x wrist to arms etc.). Based on your posts on lifting there is no fucking way OTR is gonna fit you.
One spot I love now is here: http://www.onassisclothing.com/ the best store is in NYC so if you're out there check it out for casual/dressy wear (not suits)
Again I am a big time ecto morph so my metrics are all jacked. As an example a 36 will fit my waist, but I will rip the shoulder in the jacket. 38 usually chest is great shoulders are ok/tight, arms are parachutes and waist is like a garbage bag.
Once you start hitting the ideal proportions you pretty much have to go custom. (1.618 waist to shoulders, 9-10 inch drop chest to waist, 2.5x wrist to arms etc.). Based on your posts on lifting there is no fucking way OTR is gonna fit you.
One spot I love now is here: http://www.onassisclothing.com/ the best store is in NYC so if you're out there check it out for casual/dressy wear (not suits)
Once you have spent 3 - 5 years weight training and become "big", how many hours per week lifting is required to maintain your muscle mass?
What happens to the older guys, say over 50? Most of the big guys I see tend to be aged 25-48
What happens to the older guys, say over 50? Most of the big guys I see tend to be aged 25-48
Quote: (11-02-2013 12:32 PM)Cyr Wrote:
Quote: (11-02-2013 12:27 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:
Obviously that fat loss will come when I decide to start cutting so not important to focus on abs at the moment.
I would still do a couple sets of abs a week, so that when you cut they're looking good. I was lifting weights on my stomach, and my waist got a lot bigger so I stopped working them at all for like a year. My body fat stayed about the same, but I went from having very defined abs, to something that was barely a six pack.
This is a great point. Happened to me too. I was doing to much weighted ab work and they swole up. Also i found out afterwards that for the obliques you best not do to much..They grow the easiest. But ive leveled out now it took 3 years tho.
From my experience, Abs, lower back, and hips are the most under worked. If your core looks great, most likely it feels great. Lower back and hips feel solid the rest of your body is gona be epic.
Towards me older women like the bicep thing a lot. Younger girls like the fight club fighter body( gotta have a great core!)
5-10 hours a week.
But the question is flawed.
Is train 10-20 hours a week if my body could take it.
The guys in the gym who look like they know what's up are Not training for the ladies.
It's inner demons and an aggression outlet for many of us.
And a sense of pride mold yourself into an image you have. It's exercise of will.
Girls are nice side effect but not a motivation.
But the question is flawed.
Is train 10-20 hours a week if my body could take it.
The guys in the gym who look like they know what's up are Not training for the ladies.
It's inner demons and an aggression outlet for many of us.
And a sense of pride mold yourself into an image you have. It's exercise of will.
Girls are nice side effect but not a motivation.
You guys have good typo spotting skills. Correct. Fixed it.
My weight training is a balance between gaining muscle and optimizing body composition, and muscle performance for whenever I play a sport.
For instance, whenever I do play a sport competitively it is usually soccer so I have a lot of focus on squats and deadlifts for the lower body. Upper body work on its own is almost negligible to soccer performance but I do it because I want to gain overall muscle.
Right now, I'm for the first time looking to add as much muscle as possible, while not worrying too much about the fat. I had thought it would be easy due to the fact I've always put on weight (whether fat or muscle) much easier than losing weight, but I am noticing I need to eat extreme amounts.
For the next 3 months, I don't care if I get a little bit puffy from this training. Currently at about 157 lbs at 5'8, ~ 18 body fat. My goal is to hit 170 lbs and then decide how much fat I want to cut then.
Posts like these on the forum have given me more motivation to add muscle more than just the minimal gains for once.
For instance, whenever I do play a sport competitively it is usually soccer so I have a lot of focus on squats and deadlifts for the lower body. Upper body work on its own is almost negligible to soccer performance but I do it because I want to gain overall muscle.
Right now, I'm for the first time looking to add as much muscle as possible, while not worrying too much about the fat. I had thought it would be easy due to the fact I've always put on weight (whether fat or muscle) much easier than losing weight, but I am noticing I need to eat extreme amounts.
For the next 3 months, I don't care if I get a little bit puffy from this training. Currently at about 157 lbs at 5'8, ~ 18 body fat. My goal is to hit 170 lbs and then decide how much fat I want to cut then.
Posts like these on the forum have given me more motivation to add muscle more than just the minimal gains for once.
Quote: (11-02-2013 04:47 PM)WestCoast Wrote:
Want to highlight that if you're going to do abs for gods sake do NOT do crunches. That shit does not work.
Get on a half ball and do them for real, get on a flat bench and do leg ups, hang from a pull up bar and do leg raises.
Using those "rolling sit up machines" do not work for shit, it's why you always see fat people on them.
Basically a ball + the half ball is your best bet for abs.
Quality quality quality over quantity. In the beginning once a week is just fine.
Well we're on the subject, one of the movements that is guaranteed to work your abs, beyond what most machines/equipment can do, is backflips.
Go to an open gymnastics session and learn if you can't already and you wanna have fun, but at the same time, doing 50+ in a session will have you feeling it in the morning.
Another tipping point is when guys ask you how much you bench or what supplements you take.
That's a good sign that you're looking jacked.
That's a good sign that you're looking jacked.
Quote: (11-02-2013 10:11 AM)WestCoast Wrote:
In reference to the proportions comment mike dropped the answer is the golden rectangle.
So your ideal measurement is 1.618 times your waist = shoulder circumference.
So 30 waist you want a 48.5 shoulder circumference.
You can google around and find aesthetic metrics online, as an examples 2.5x wrist = arm size flexed.
I was always skinny, so the changes were 1) people no longer saying I was thin, 2) then moved to "man you started lifting huh", 3) then dudes asking me for advice, 4) then girls givin complements, 5) dudes now asking for permission to use a machine if I am even standing next to it, 6) girls coming up and grabbing my chest and when you arm lock a girl down the street she'll says "what nice arms you have" (giggle).
Notably I'm not at a point where people can tell if I am jacked wearing a leather jacket, but all the people comparing suits and physique is nonsense, if you have a stellar physique AND have a custom suit you look absolutely ridiculous. You can't find regular suits with a 10" drop from chest to hips. You're in the top 5%, "average man" sure wouldn't fit in it. Finally, If you don't have 8hours a week to dedicate to fitness (any kind) you don't care about yourself anyway, so this thread isn't for you.
That is the tipping point, if girls aren't touching you physically then you have work to do.
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