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Rolling solo?? Think again
#51

Rolling solo?? Think again

Quote: (11-04-2013 03:33 AM)Frank Mackey Wrote:  

Quote: (11-01-2013 09:42 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

Quote: (11-01-2013 09:34 AM)Frank Mackey Wrote:  

I really wonder how you guys open groups of two girls when rolling solo...

It's easy.

Groups of two girls are your prime targets.

They're waiting for guys to approach.

Think about it - why would two girls go to a bar or club to hangout anyway? To talk? To have a couple overpriced drinks?

They're putting themselves on the market.

They want guys to talk to them! Why do you think girls end up hitting on bartenders? It's not just because of their status, it's because guys are diddling around holding their beers up to their chest, looking at their cell phones.

But that's precisely my point... Those are the ones I wan't to hit on, but how do I do this alone?

Last time I went out solo (not quite, my friends left home earlier and I wanted to stay more), I decided to hit on two hot Lithuanian girls that told me they were spending the weekend in the city and leaving in one day. Great news, they're definitely looking for fun!

I was able to have a few drinks with them, change venue to a club, start making out with one of them, but the other ended up alone, and unfortunately no one in the disco (that was not an idiot, damn ugly and/or completely drunk) would start talking to her. She got tired, and told her friend to go home. I tried to convince my girl to stay, but in these situations (specially when they are abroad), chances are very high that she will not leave her friend alone.

Could I have done something different to avoid this? Surely... I could have tried to hipnotize her, or try a threesome... But unfortunately I am not Mystery or the Super-Man.

Wouldn't it be easier if I was with another friend? At least I would have a choice here, instead of relying on random occurrences in this club regarding the other chick.

That was my point.

Well, I am far from game experienced as many others here I am sure, but it really isn't that difficult to pawn off the other girl to some other dude. First of all, you need to be able to keep both their interest for a while. You can't expect some other dude to approach the left over girl while you are there, cause they may think you're together etc and most guys don't approach with reckless abandon.

Just keep an eye out for guys who seem to have some game and perhaps even buy them a drink and ask if they want to get a sure thing and that you'll give them a prop up when they enter the set. Be a good wingman for them and spend a little time making him look good to the other girl, then once they're going with conversation, try to isolate and bounce. I haven't really noticed that much of a difference in bouncing in these cases. If a girl is joined by the hip to the friend, that isn't going to change with a bro as a wingman.
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#52

Rolling solo?? Think again

Quote: (11-04-2013 05:47 AM)scandibro Wrote:  

You can't expect some other dude to approach the left over girl while you are there, cause they may think you're together etc and most guys don't approach with reckless abandon.

You don't want another guy approaching the 2nd girl.

He is most likely an amateur and probably unspool the whole deal.

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That is one thing I hate about talking with guys (which I always do to get momentum going and so I own the place.)

Many times that cat you were talking with at the early stages of the night will try to poach in when you are spitting at two fly girls trying to leech off your hard work. It can be a real parasitic move.

It is cool if the guy has mad Game, but sucks when the guy is coming weak.

Especially since know the girls think you "know" the guy.

Not sure of anyway around this. I think its just a necessary evil of The Game.
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#53

Rolling solo?? Think again

Quote: (11-04-2013 06:56 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

You don't want another guy approaching the 2nd girl.

He is most likely an amateur and probably unspool the whole deal.

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It is cool if the guy has mad Game, but sucks when the guy is coming weak.

Especially since know the girls think you "know" the guy.

Not sure of anyway around this. I think its just a necessary evil of The Game.

This is so true.

Have you tried putting in some sort of indirect mild disclaimer that he's not with you?

Usually when this happens, I pull the guy next to me, and introduce him to the girls in an over-the-top formal manner.

"Jake, (pointing) Kate (pointing to the other) Anne. They're quite the whippersnappers(or cream puffs)."

"Girls, (pointing to the guy) Jake. Be kind to him (Wink)."

And I leave him to them, go to a different(preferably positive)set / some females I already know in the area. Make sure I am seen by them. Come back a little later.. By this time it is quite evident whether the guy has game. As he tries out his Beta shtick on them, you come, save the girls from the CreepyGuyFromYourSistersWedding/School/Neighbourhood and move on.

Thats whats worked for me on a few occasions.
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#54

Rolling solo?? Think again

All these tacticts may help, but I continue to think that, if you have other friends at the same game level and with the same looks, and (most importantly) with the same motivations, it's just easier to bring them along.

They will know when to step in, and if they are real friends, they will understand when they should leave you alone.

The problem, I guess, is that we are so into this that it is not so easy to find a buddy with these features to go out whenever we want.
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#55

Rolling solo?? Think again

Rolling solo is great for the freedom it gives you. No worrying about leaving a friend behind, no getting dragged places you don't want to go etc. But overall I just think it's much less fun.

If you go out with a good friend (or friends) you have the pregaming together, you have the drunken taxi rides, you get to high five your friend when you hook up with two girls who're sisters, you get the random drunken adventures etc.

Plus all the social proof, positive positive energy and having a reliable wingman stuff means in my experience you'll usually get with higher quality girls. If your friends aren't good wingmen then it's on you to educate them, in my opinion. If they're good friends even if theyre in long term relationships they can be solid wingmen with a bit of coaching.

Plus, worst case scenario if you don't score, if you've gone out with friends you've probably still had a really fun night. If you go out by yourself scoring is the only goal - its putting all your eggs in one basket.

My top nights out have always been going out with 3 or 4 friends, us having great fun for the first few hours together pregaming, then us all hooking up with girls in clubs/parties. Then the next morning us all doing walks of shame and meeting up for breakfast to discuss the gory details. Can't be beaten I reckon.
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#56

Rolling solo?? Think again

As much as I like being solo, A MIXED GROUP OF FRIENDS is the most memorable experience you can have going out...

Yea, it's fun/thrilling to go into a venue ALONE, meet tons of new people and randomly end up in a hotel with 2 chicks BUT the thing is you can't really re-live or share it. I almost NEVER mention my solo adventures its always the stories of when I was with "the crew" getting wild doing all sorts of shit. It's those shared experiences that made me bond with both men and women.

A perfect example of this is when I showed up to a venue where it turned out my boy was HAVING HIS BIRTHDAY, man it was a ridiculous night since a year ago we used to all hang out every thursday with about 15-25 girls. LEGENDARY NIGHTS!!! Sometimes, I think people sacrifice memorable shared experiences with friends just to get a lay. Most of the lays I've had (even with girls who I considered my ideal) the memory is like background noise. When I think of going out I can remember insane nights like...
- The night we showed up to a club at 3am they gave us a free table, rounded up a bunch of sparklers and BUGGED OUT so hard in 30mins that people were asking our girls if we were celebrities and a drug dealer came over giving out free drugs to the girls. Then we end up at an after party.
- Not sleeping for 3 days because all we did was party and have sex for 3 days straight with different women.
- One of the 1st times we went to day parties and ended up all blacking out with random girls that we met on the street at 10pm
- Dealing with BS on a slow wednesday night, 330am we figure out a place to hit and before we ended I vowed that we make this the best 30mins ever. Lets just say, we left the venue and I was telling the bouncer "tell the bus boy I said sorry" because we made a mess, met 2 bottle buyers, and ran into that drug dealer who was now fucked up with some girl. We all end up going to another venue at 4am where the guy is about to drop 3k...wtf!?!?!?!

Mixed Groups Are The Most Memorable, solo is the most adventurous (BUT, I rarely ever speak about them)





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#57

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My success hasn't been great with it so far but I want to make it the central part of my game. All my closest friends bar one are married and many have kids. Despite that most are still thirsty as hell due to getting laid once a fortnight if they are lucky. They still have come out and gamed with me but I'm talking 2-3 times in a whole year!
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#58

Rolling solo?? Think again

I think the passion for "rolling solo" is somewhat related with the romantic image of the lonely cowboy that enters the saloon and shoots all the bad guys... Better to bring some back-up, when your buddies are available and also know what they're doing...[Image: smile.gif] and as some guys already stated, it's much more fun to talk about everything the next day.

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#59

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I remember using my older, blue-pill co-worker and his friends as a 'home base' in a bar here one night. (I went out alone but they arrived unexpectedly, and I couldn't exactly ignore them).

I was friendly to them, but also got across that I was kinda doing my own thing.

I had two 7's giggling at my jokes for five minutes at the bar, then some 5 Foot 4', poorly-dressed fat guy in his group came up to me and said "Hello [Image: biggrin.gif]. *Pause*. I was just wondering if you needed any help here? *wink* wink* *wink* [Image: wink.gif]"

"Ah nah, not yet man, haha" ("No, I want you to fuck off.")

Don't let other guys ruin your set.

My advice: take both of the girls out of the venue and get food. Butter both of them up.

When it comes to going home, the other one usually goes a separate way, in my experience.
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#60

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^^^I hate getting poached from. Some guys stands right next to me and just stares at the girls. Really odd behavior.

This weekend I was running around Hollywood solo- mixing and mingling. Walked into Drais and linked up w/5 korean girls. Funniest thing is watching other people gawk at me. Lost the 5 koreans after going outside for a smoke, then gravitated over to 3 hot white girls. Lit up a joint and voila new friends. 2 asian guys i was chatting before swing by and blow my shit up.

Then i switch over to the other side of drais and walk up to a mixed group 4 girls and 1 guy. Asian guys keep following me around. I walk into the mixed group, start spitting, then block them out of the circle by putting my back to them.

WIA- For most of men, our time being masters of our own fate, kings in our own castles is short. Even those of us in the game will eventually succumb to ease of servitude rather than deal with the malaise of solitude
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#61

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Interesting topic, not only about the discussion regarding the studies made but also the sharing of user's experience through rolling solos.

After reading some books about gaming and so on, I felt very motivated about going to parties alone. As a matter of fact, I don't have that many wingman with me, most of them (my friends) became betas and slaves of they GFs and Wives. Sadly but true. So I had to go by myself.

But thethe first time I went out alone and it was fuck*** awesome. Gaming, confidence, challenge and so on, a very nice experience. Worked perfect for me.

I'm also travelling to some cities I've never been here and going also alone to parties and to places. When you go alone, you develop a lot your extroversion, you started to feel more comfortable talking to anyone else, sharing stories, experiences, making friends and even more. I have another story but I'll tell another time, otherwise this post will be bigger than it actually is.

I see that most, but most of people think that they will be a looser if they go out or think like "myself as my wingman". In fact, these chances of rolling solo are the ones you most evolve as a man and as an individual. Actually I think like this.

Maybe I had luck in solos, but the confidence I built going out like this was unforgettable. And I'll do more times, for sure.
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#62

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Quote: (11-04-2013 06:56 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (11-04-2013 05:47 AM)scandibro Wrote:  

You can't expect some other dude to approach the left over girl while you are there, cause they may think you're together etc and most guys don't approach with reckless abandon.

You don't want another guy approaching the 2nd girl.

He is most likely an amateur and probably unspool the whole deal.

No I agree, it didn't mean to try to invite other random guys to approach the other girl, that usually ruins things for everyone.

Just if you're rolling solo, there should usually be some dude with a minium of game you can buy a beer and get to divert attention for 30 minutes. Not that hard to see who is doing the rounds as well if you've been in a bar for an hour or two.
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#63

Rolling solo?? Think again

Quote: (11-04-2013 06:56 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

You don't want another guy approaching the 2nd girl.

He is most likely an amateur and probably unspool the whole deal.

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That is one thing I hate about talking with guys (which I always do to get momentum going and so I own the place.)

Many times that cat you were talking with at the early stages of the night will try to poach in when you are spitting at two fly girls trying to leech off your hard work. It can be a real parasitic move.

It is cool if the guy has mad Game, but sucks when the guy is coming weak.

Especially since know the girls think you "know" the guy.

Not sure of anyway around this. I think its just a necessary evil of The Game.

The best move I've found is to "help" the other chick by having her point someone she thinks is attractive and then walk her through approaching and gaming him.

This makes it clear you don't know the dude and also leaves you one on one with your target while her friend is busy with her new "project".
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#64

Rolling solo?? Think again

Quote: (11-05-2013 09:11 PM)Seaver Wrote:  

Quote: (11-04-2013 06:56 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

You don't want another guy approaching the 2nd girl.

He is most likely an amateur and probably unspool the whole deal.

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That is one thing I hate about talking with guys (which I always do to get momentum going and so I own the place.)

Many times that cat you were talking with at the early stages of the night will try to poach in when you are spitting at two fly girls trying to leech off your hard work. It can be a real parasitic move.

It is cool if the guy has mad Game, but sucks when the guy is coming weak.

Especially since know the girls think you "know" the guy.

Not sure of anyway around this. I think its just a necessary evil of The Game.

The best move I've found is to "help" the other chick by having her point someone she thinks is attractive and then walk her through approaching and gaming him.

This makes it clear you don't know the dude and also leaves you one on one with your target while her friend is busy with her new "project".

I was more referring to this part when I called it a necessary Evil of The Game:

"Many times that cat you were talking with at the early stages of the night will try to poach in when you are spitting at two fly girls trying to leech off your hard work. It can be a real parasitic move."
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#65

Rolling solo?? Think again

Quote: (10-30-2013 04:08 PM)bounce Wrote:  

I know some people are advocates of rolling solo, and yes I can see benefits to that, but this study finds that being in groups increases attractiveness.

It is a short article, so I won't spoil/fuck it up for you.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/208709/s...h-friends/

I kinda like rolling solo. Partly just because I don't have a lot of friends and the friends I do have are kinda hangout in sports bars and not approach women type of friends. Good guys but why go pay $5 a beer to sit at a sportbar and not approach women I can do that at home.

I like rolling solo. I wind up meeting a lot of people, your not constained by your friends and where they wanna go, you can make the night whatever you want.

And honestly I get a lot of groups of guys and or girls inviting me to go hit another bar or go hangout with them or whatever else. I also think there's a bit of mystery in why is this guy out by himself.

If you got out solo you have to be happy and approachable and ready to talk to people, just don't go out to a bar and hang your head down looking pathetic.
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#66

Rolling solo?? Think again

One other positive about rolling solo. Not to get into some deep psychological stuff but obviously I think to a certain extend we all act differently around diff people. You act diff with your coworkers than you do with your best buddies and diff with the gf than you do with the rest, etc.

I think when you go out with a certain group of friends you maybe scew your personality to fit that group and do the same when out with that group. WHen your rolling solo its kinda that nobody knows you nobody knows what your normal mo is, you don't have to conform to whatever personality type you normally are you can be whoever you want to be for that night.
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#67

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Solo has its advantages and drawbacks.

I generally dont gel well in groups, larger than 2 or 3 people otherwise I get pinned down with football talk or some shit. Though more people make me feel pumped and vibed.

Going alone involves a lot of work on bringing your mood to the level of others in large groups. Though you have more freedom.

I standout quite a bit where ever I go. In a club, i have to be doing something or people will see and remember me standing there alone looking lonely or not fun. Makes me self conscience about other approaches if this what i have been doing all night.

I find if im alone the DANCEFLOOR is a very good option as long as it is not too dead or too packed. You can mingle without looking alone, the good music will pump you up, and the close proximity to others will help not feeling alone.

I dance decently enough to not be considered a part of the average awkward male on the dancefloor, and ostentatious enough to grab attention without looking like a try hard. After a good dance session my social proof is elevated enough I feel I should do what i want that night.

The truth is that if you stand out enough you will always look alone, so at least have fun and have everyone know it.

You can get a few good dances, and even if nothing comes of it, your mood should be elevated enough to approach everyone you would normally.
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#68

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Quote: (11-08-2013 04:37 PM)Checkerz Wrote:  

I find if im alone the DANCEFLOOR

I keep on hearing people mention "Dancefloors".

Everyone is "Dancefloor" crazy on here.

Where do you guys hang out?

I haven't been to a club with a "Dancefloor" in 10+ years.

Hell, I don't think they have existed since these days:

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