[Van123]

Hey, I just read your book. I'm 20 years of age and living in a small country, new Zealand. I approached near 679 girls this year alone. I still find loads of flakes and as I know, the best gets around a 50% chance with approaches or am I wrong. How much can attraction techniques really help? And I see you say a girl will give you her number only if she's interested, but I geard girls say tgey give out tgeir numbers even if tgey don't like a guy. Also, if a women agrees on a meetup but don't want to kiss you, what does this mean? I have loads of questions and I'm a guy who goes out there and does this things, but my success rate is very very small. Is this normal? And how much can I do and what success rate is considered good?

VAN

[BostonBMW]

Your success rate will go up as you tighten your game.

A few things to note: Try to build attraction/comfort, that'll reduce the flakes, and always be pushing for more. Even when you get resistance, switch it up, and then come back to push for more.

The rest comes from trial and error. Flaking and rejection should be expected.

[Van123]

My questions is this:

1) since I approach about 10 girls a week on average, I get about 1 number a week. Why is it still hard for me to attract girls? NYC playboy Paul janka says he only gets success with 10% of numbers he gets... And now there are people claiming to get 50 %. Paul janka keeps spreadsheet and believe you should keep the interaction under 2 minutes. He says comfort does not make a difference. I found tge same. I might build comfort for 20 mins and still don't get the number after I get some iois. My questions are this: can pua techniques really make a difference? Puas aren't psychologists and dhvs etc. Are just theories tgey made up. Value can differ from women to women for instance. Maybe you can't change attraction. What's your thoughts? Is it possible to get a 50% rate?

[Bukowsky]

I imagine if you knew the difference between "g" and "h" your success rate would increase by a factor of a few thousand percent.

[Van123]

I'm typing from my iPod touch with small letters. 1); 2) that's a red herring. Please stay on the topic.

[Quasi]

I think 50% is bullshit I think Janka is more honest..there is your difference. But I agree stop typing with your IamStupidPhone please.

[craigmachine]

its like hitting balls in the batting cages. if you walk in trying to hit the 85mph baseballs with no practice you wont miss 679 times. youre guaranteed at least 20-30 hits but also guaranteed a big fat goose egg on homeruns.
if your success rates are too low then take a step back and figure out what you are doing wrong(it will probably be obvious)

^^best analogy ever. ever.

[playa_with_a_passport]

(11-08-2010 01:22 AM)Van123 Wrote:  

My questions is this:

1) since I approach about 10 girls a week on average, I get about 1 number a week. Why is it still hard for me to attract girls? NYC playboy Paul janka says he only gets success with 10% of numbers he gets... And now there are people claiming to get 50 %. Paul janka keeps spreadsheet and believe you should keep the interaction under 2 minutes. He says comfort does not make a difference. I found tge same. I might build comfort for 20 mins and still don't get the number after I get some iois. My questions are this: can pua techniques really make a difference? Puas aren't psychologists and dhvs etc. Are just theories tgey made up. Value can differ from women to women for instance. Maybe you can't change attraction. What's your thoughts? Is it possible to get a 50% rate?

A lot of so called "PUA's" exaggerate or are downright lying. I wouldn't worry too much about what other guy's "kill" rate is because chances are that the real number is way less than what they claim it is. I just finished reading "Dead Bat in Paraguay" and it felt good knowing that I was not the only one who thinks that pussy just doesn't fall out of the sky in South America or elsewhere for that matter.

[wolf]

Paul Janka is at the top of his game. You're not.
You could make all the approaches in the world and it wouldn't help.

What works for Paul Janka might not work on you.
What are your looks on a scale of 1-10?
How do you dress?
How do you fix your hair before you go out?
Do you wear deodorant and have gum in your mouth?
What's the condition of your teeth( are they white and straight)?
Which girls are you approaching? Locals or tourists?( you said you were in New Zealand).
Are you currently sleeping with any girls while you approach other girls?