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Anyone who can't survive in a jungle would have to be mentally insane. It's just like going camping.
Not really, you need skillz. Jungle means hot we're not talking about the Sierra mountains in the summer time.
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Anyone who can't survive in a jungle would have to be mentally insane. It's just like going camping.
Quote: (10-31-2013 02:17 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
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Anyone who can't survive in a jungle would have to be mentally insane. It's just like going camping.
Not really, you need skillz. Jungle means hot we're not talking about the Sierra mountains in the summer time.
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The rest of the world will resent you for raising the bar above their own mediocrity.
Quote: (10-31-2013 11:13 AM)WestCoast Wrote:
High IQ is such a tough topic IMHO. When you're in college you're taught that if you are "smart" you are good with numbers and having direct speech. That's all "smart is" you get across your point in a direct manner, in addition you are good with numbers because numbers don't lie and that's the best way to see if someone can comprehend. How does being good at linear algebra statistics calculus or anything like that help get chicks? It doesn't. So smart is basically a construction around a set of beliefs: direct speech and math.
You don't see fiction authors being classified as smart. Or brilliant.
With all that said if you're legitimately smart in the academic sense listed above here is what it feels like in the beginning with no game.
1. You believe the dumb sluts are below you so you can't fathom standing in a room where people are talking about the impact of the latest retarded TV show like the kardashians.
2. You can't believe that people can't do simple math in their head, the simplest example is when a check comes and people "wonder" what the tip is going to be you're immediately annoyed as they really can't figure out wtf 15% on $167 is? You really can't believe it. This frustrates you and makes you annoyed.
3. You can't make a "intellectual connection with women" you still don't realize they are entirely emotionally driven. You don't get why they would bother talking to that dumb "ape" who can't even make $50K a year.
4. You quickly judge people's intellect out of annoyance, someone makes a dumbass comment and you immediately want to chip in and explain how wrong it is and you know you're right.
5. You constantly run "scenarios" in your head and have near photogenic memory, you realize this makes people off put because they don't understand why you remembered he entire conversation form 6 months ago verbatim. They don't get why you remember what everyone was wearing. They don't get why you took the event so "seriously" when in reality you can date back a year and do the same for mundane situations like going to grab a coffee and remembering the barrista's favorite city is Salt Lake City because you overheard it.
6. With said photogenic memory, you "socially unintelligently" remember all this and when you mention it in passing people are "freaked out or creeped out"
7. You lose touch with family and friends because they realize you remember everything so they are "on their toes" when speaking with you. This makes the cycle worse as it creates a more intense atmosphere
8. You can't fall asleep (another fact of high iq) because the synapses in your brain fire more than average people. This disrupts your sleep.
Does this sound like you? Here is what I did.
1. After drinking a few nights out I noticed the average intelligence people "liked me more".
2. Instead of saying I need to drink to have better social skills I took down 4 drinks alone in my apartment. I called friends and I recorded my body language, tone, word choice.
3. I called the same people sober. Tried to mimic the mannerisms, never perfect but a drastic improvement.
4. Rinse and repeat at bars and clubs. Slowly weaning off the drink (no matter how much you try you will always have better game with drinks if you are highly intelligent as the neocortex is impaired and you're using your reptilian brain to function more)
5. Once you realize it's all repetitions you start to pick up on the signs, pupils dialating, dudes with hands in pockets, wingspan etc.
6. Once you get be basics you then simply start improving your physique so your body language becomes a part of you. You don't put your hands in your pockets because you're never really cold you've got more warmth from high muscle content. You also don't cross your arms in a negative standing position because your shoulders are too broad and it feels uncomfortable. You're a different specimen.
Let's say you repeat the 6 steps above, constantly taking time to record yourself when you're socially "on", you gain muscle, you fix your dress, you slow down your speech (smart people usually talk fast), more "normal" people want to hang out with you. Then you move on to the next phase.
1. You see how normal people are basically looking to "get something from each other" so you sit back and usually observe any new person you meet and they find you quiet and reserved.
2. You make a cognitive decision about the person and then turn back "on" and dumb down your speech.
Rinse and repeat above.
Finally, you come to the following conclusions: 1) women fuck men who make them feel good so you can't do anything that spurs on the neo cortex (I constantly rip words in conversations and pretend they said something completely off the wall which doesn't make any sense). If your conversation is "logical" your conversation sucks.
2. You realize you will never really "get rid" of your high processing power so you just channel it to different events like 1) work, 2) bouncing ideas off legitimately smart people, 3) reading.
TL;DR? The most likable person in the room is the "bumbling buffoon" or "class clown". Make people laugh and have sweeping body language. If you want to break it down into three steps for a smart person it would be this.
1) No social intensity, once you step outside of work nothing is to be taken seriously
2) Your game is directly correleated to how you can make a group of people "feel". Controlling the emotional vibe
3) Always have open posture for a newbie, hands in pockets are a no, crossing legs are a no, crossing arms are a no
^ that's the crux of it all, no one is more likable than the "life of the party".
Quote: (10-31-2013 06:12 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
It took me while to find it again, but this post on intelligence is fantastic, particularly the Shopenhauer quote:
Uneducated Hatred
Quote: (11-02-2013 10:47 AM)DVY Wrote:
People feel really threatened by somebody smarter than them.
Quote: (11-02-2013 11:12 AM)WestCoast Wrote:
guys who eventually get it don't think "fuck those unintelligent people"
Quote: (11-01-2013 02:44 PM)FrenchCanadian Wrote:
i dont try to hide it, i dont try to shine it... just go with the flow. basically i dont try to be a smartass as I beleive most girls don't like guys who drop knowledge on them every 2min... I usually let them talk for the most part but im very clever in my responses, thats why i dont think you should "hide" your intelligence.
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Anyone ever had this exchange?
Her: So what do you like to do?
Me: I like to read books.
Her: omg me too, I love to read
Me: awesome, what do you read?
Her: twilight
Me: ...oh
Quote: (11-02-2013 10:36 PM)metalheadatheart Wrote:
I speak like the people I'm around, generally. I don't really think about it, but if I'm with blue-collar country types, I use "ain't" and a bit of a southern drawl. If I'm with more pretentious types, or in a professional setting, I speak properly, etc. I've even gotten Shakespearean from time to time, although not often.
Quote: (11-02-2013 11:36 AM)Giovonny Wrote:
Exactly. I want to be surrounded by people smarter then me. When that happens, I am in a constant state of improvement.
If I'm the smartest guy in the group, we are in trouble.
I like to be the dumbest guy in the room. I will learn something every minute.
Quote: (11-03-2013 06:37 AM)paninaro Wrote:
This. I'm surprised this thread has gone on so long. Intelligent people should be able to easily adapt to their situation. Ok, I guess that's more EQ than IQ, but no reason why a person with high IQ can't "learn" EQ.
I've been to my fair share of Mensa events, and most of the people there are not very socially adjusted. Definitely intelligent and good for a conversation, but I'd say only 10% can fit in well into normal society. I'm always surprised about how many of them are not that successful career-wise, and I attribute this to their not having the social skills necessary for career advancement.