I got a PM from a forum member with this question:
Hey Soup,
I was shocked to read that you successfully gamed Swiss women at age sixteen, but then got very little action until you joined the forum. Now you have been destroying your Williamsburgh hipster fishbowl with musician game.
What the hell happened to unleash this? Were you in long-term relationships? Did something happen to make you overcompensate? It seems like you always had the ability, but didn't apply it.
I'm lazy, and in your situation I might just keep the best one or two women. What is motivating you differently now to keep putting in the obsessive work?
I figure it might be of interest to some of you to know why I'm doing what I'm doing here.
Before I got into game, I had a deep sense of entitlement because my ego was big for some reason- I believed that I was better in many ways than a lot of people, despite my short-commings. There was definitely a sense that I was destined for greatness.
I always had a vision of having the perfect woman but that was before I learned about the true nature of women and that the majority of the are essentially a hive mind. I believed then, as I do now, that my true destiny involves fucking the hottest women on the planet.
Back then I dreamed of falling in love with a girl like that- I was very romantic and still am to some degree. I would find a muse who would inspire my art, a partner in crime, a fountain of love etc.
I had this great drive, and was pushing to fulfill my dreams. That's why I was confident to just pick-up those girls without any inkling of what game was. I thought game was like "he got game" basketball shit.
I believed that I would be a rockstar one day like Slash or Van Halen, or a famous artist. When that day were to come, I would be a king and have my pick of the most attractive women.
It was kind of the naive irrational self-confidence thing with some arrogance.
It was the fresh green fiesty energy that was un-tempered by the harsh realities of dating etc.
I think I also saw that my dad had very attractive women in his life as well. He definitely had very high hopes for me attaining greatness etc.
I always had the aggression and drive to get pussy, and it was actually too much for a lot of my friends. They wanted to hang out and do stuff with the bros, but as one of them put it "when ever we go out, you are like on the prowl." He nicknamed me "killer" (this was also given to me by a newer friend).
That said, I was terrified of getting in STDs in the 1990s and also looked down on sluts and open-sex relationships and people partying and doing drugs etc.
This prevented me from taking advantage of the wide swath of sluts in my artsy high school.
So, the fear and arrogance prevented me from going deep into "the dark side" at the time. I would also get heavy mulitple-itis or crushes on girls simultaneously. I was very beta in that sense, and would "fall in love" with my girlfriends even if it wasn't reciprocated. I would allow myself to get emotionally attached etc. I felt like I was a from an older century and that I was going to marry these girls in the way I described above. I was hunting for a queen.
Towards the end of high school, I started embrace more of the bad kid vibe and would go out drinking and trying to get laid a lot. My skills were limited by my beliefs about women (mostly that we were on the same level), but I managed to get some hits.
Then, in my early twenties, I decided that it was about time that I tried out a long term relationship. That happened for like four years, but during that time, what I believe is my true nature was constantly knocking on the door, compelling me towards strange pussy.
I never followed through with cheating, but I got very close.
I believe that relationship imploded because of this built up tension. This was in my mid-twenties, and I kind of had an emotional breakdown (which is common for a lot people during that time of life).
I looked at my life and realized that my vision for greatness and love was not matching up to the reality. It was a time of reckoning. I didn't drink for a year and tried out an anti-depressant (which I don't think really did anything).
I will say that the night my girlfriend left me, I was hell bent on replacing her immediately. I went out that night and hit the bars life a wolf looking for pussy.
I slowly started to rebuild myself- learning to play advanced guitar, going out to meet girls etc. I still would fall in love and didn't understand the reality of the relationship between men and women.
I was still stuck in this romantic mental loop. I'm not sure if you could call it beta. It was more like alpha with stripes of beta, and some omega qualities as well. I did envision myself like the sigma wolverine outsider character.
In a way, that romantic energy enabled me to do a lot of crazy things. Before I knew what a neg was, I once picked up a girl in the two sentences by criticizing her fashion choice, and she was like "let's get out of here".
I was emotionally invested in everything in a way that actually might have been good, but I didn't have the right frame of mind. I didn't get the basics. I was kind of blinded in this way. I'm still trying to get it.
Then my friend introduced me to Citizen Renegade (now Heartiste), and I was freed by the concepts of the abundance mentality and the idea that this was a game, and that things weren't set in stone, and that I could improve.
That was a few years ago. I became obsessed (as you can see by my involvement here), an attacked practicing game like I do my music.
I believe that my inability to master women was holding me back in someway.
There is power in implementing the belief system of game. You can make money off of charisma. You can get women. It's basically about creating a heaven for yourself.
I am motivated by a great wave; I have a have grand vision for my life. This is why I started the fame thread.
Enough about me.
I'm sure that there are other guys in here who could talk about what motivates them to slay pussy.
Have at it guys.
Hey Soup,
I was shocked to read that you successfully gamed Swiss women at age sixteen, but then got very little action until you joined the forum. Now you have been destroying your Williamsburgh hipster fishbowl with musician game.
What the hell happened to unleash this? Were you in long-term relationships? Did something happen to make you overcompensate? It seems like you always had the ability, but didn't apply it.
I'm lazy, and in your situation I might just keep the best one or two women. What is motivating you differently now to keep putting in the obsessive work?
I figure it might be of interest to some of you to know why I'm doing what I'm doing here.
Before I got into game, I had a deep sense of entitlement because my ego was big for some reason- I believed that I was better in many ways than a lot of people, despite my short-commings. There was definitely a sense that I was destined for greatness.
I always had a vision of having the perfect woman but that was before I learned about the true nature of women and that the majority of the are essentially a hive mind. I believed then, as I do now, that my true destiny involves fucking the hottest women on the planet.
Back then I dreamed of falling in love with a girl like that- I was very romantic and still am to some degree. I would find a muse who would inspire my art, a partner in crime, a fountain of love etc.
I had this great drive, and was pushing to fulfill my dreams. That's why I was confident to just pick-up those girls without any inkling of what game was. I thought game was like "he got game" basketball shit.
I believed that I would be a rockstar one day like Slash or Van Halen, or a famous artist. When that day were to come, I would be a king and have my pick of the most attractive women.
It was kind of the naive irrational self-confidence thing with some arrogance.
It was the fresh green fiesty energy that was un-tempered by the harsh realities of dating etc.
I think I also saw that my dad had very attractive women in his life as well. He definitely had very high hopes for me attaining greatness etc.
I always had the aggression and drive to get pussy, and it was actually too much for a lot of my friends. They wanted to hang out and do stuff with the bros, but as one of them put it "when ever we go out, you are like on the prowl." He nicknamed me "killer" (this was also given to me by a newer friend).
That said, I was terrified of getting in STDs in the 1990s and also looked down on sluts and open-sex relationships and people partying and doing drugs etc.
This prevented me from taking advantage of the wide swath of sluts in my artsy high school.
So, the fear and arrogance prevented me from going deep into "the dark side" at the time. I would also get heavy mulitple-itis or crushes on girls simultaneously. I was very beta in that sense, and would "fall in love" with my girlfriends even if it wasn't reciprocated. I would allow myself to get emotionally attached etc. I felt like I was a from an older century and that I was going to marry these girls in the way I described above. I was hunting for a queen.
Towards the end of high school, I started embrace more of the bad kid vibe and would go out drinking and trying to get laid a lot. My skills were limited by my beliefs about women (mostly that we were on the same level), but I managed to get some hits.
Then, in my early twenties, I decided that it was about time that I tried out a long term relationship. That happened for like four years, but during that time, what I believe is my true nature was constantly knocking on the door, compelling me towards strange pussy.
I never followed through with cheating, but I got very close.
I believe that relationship imploded because of this built up tension. This was in my mid-twenties, and I kind of had an emotional breakdown (which is common for a lot people during that time of life).
I looked at my life and realized that my vision for greatness and love was not matching up to the reality. It was a time of reckoning. I didn't drink for a year and tried out an anti-depressant (which I don't think really did anything).
I will say that the night my girlfriend left me, I was hell bent on replacing her immediately. I went out that night and hit the bars life a wolf looking for pussy.
I slowly started to rebuild myself- learning to play advanced guitar, going out to meet girls etc. I still would fall in love and didn't understand the reality of the relationship between men and women.
I was still stuck in this romantic mental loop. I'm not sure if you could call it beta. It was more like alpha with stripes of beta, and some omega qualities as well. I did envision myself like the sigma wolverine outsider character.
In a way, that romantic energy enabled me to do a lot of crazy things. Before I knew what a neg was, I once picked up a girl in the two sentences by criticizing her fashion choice, and she was like "let's get out of here".
I was emotionally invested in everything in a way that actually might have been good, but I didn't have the right frame of mind. I didn't get the basics. I was kind of blinded in this way. I'm still trying to get it.
Then my friend introduced me to Citizen Renegade (now Heartiste), and I was freed by the concepts of the abundance mentality and the idea that this was a game, and that things weren't set in stone, and that I could improve.
That was a few years ago. I became obsessed (as you can see by my involvement here), an attacked practicing game like I do my music.
I believe that my inability to master women was holding me back in someway.
There is power in implementing the belief system of game. You can make money off of charisma. You can get women. It's basically about creating a heaven for yourself.
I am motivated by a great wave; I have a have grand vision for my life. This is why I started the fame thread.
Enough about me.
I'm sure that there are other guys in here who could talk about what motivates them to slay pussy.
Have at it guys.
