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Helsinki Impressions
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Helsinki Impressions

Did a quick 3 day blitz of Helsinki.  Writing this from the ferry to Tallinn now.

Helsinki has a sleepy feel for a capital city.  Not that many people to be seen downtown, even during rush hour.  Although I'm sure being here in late October has something to do with it.  

I didn't want to spring $90+ per night for an airbnb room.  This city might be cheap for Scandenavia, but still expensive as fuck for an American.  Stayed at a hostel on uunndenmenkatu for $30.


The girls:

90% feminists
60% hipsters
50% uglies
33% fatties
7% cute blondes
1% smoking hot dime pieces

Basically, not worth it. 

Personality wise, It only got worse.  Helsinks reminded me of Icelanders.  ie. not friendly at all.  I interacted with dozens of locals during my 3 days.  I found most of them to be cold, aloof, and a bit put off by a curious stranger.  I suspect that many simply disliked having to speak English, or felt uncomfortable doing so.

Online:

I wasn't able to find a website with enough targets in Helsinki.  I had 2 girls pipelined for my arrival via okcupid.  Both flaked on me same day. 


Daygame:

The downtown center has a huge 6 floor shopping mall complex called Kampii.  This mall is also connected to another mall called Forum.  This is the best, and pretty much only spot for day game during the cold months. 

Had a few mall sets open well enough, but they were either from Tallinn, or Australia.  Local Helsinki girls would not maintain eye contact with me, much less give the time of day on street approaches.  1 word answers, followed by rushing away.  Having just come from Kiev and Wroclaw, where girls indulged me on the street like it's their job, Helsinki coldness was a real shock to the system.

After opening a particularly memorable blonde dime piece, I later asked if Milklubi was any good.  She said, "Oh yes.  An American writer has said it is the easiest place for girls in the whole world...this is why me & my friends don't go there anymore." 

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Clubs:

If you can find a good club, with a good ratio, congratulations, the hardest part is done.  I went out Tuesday & Wednesday (late October).  Major off nights.

Milklubi was dead.  Paper moon was dead.  The Vatican was dead.  Wed night club Numu however, was poppin!  (Thanks for the Intel rooshvforum!)

60/40 GIRLS ratio.  Awesome.  Game on.

Seated blonde 2 set.  I take a seat next to them.  Blonde 1 is chatty, but I feel no sexual vibes.  Blonde 2 is ice queen.  3rd brunette friend comes over and opens me.  She is leaning in and pushing her tits against me.  She is touching my arm.  Very drunk girl.  I ask her to clarify something she said that I didn't understand, and she says "It doesn't matter."  She gets frustrated speaking in English.  Her eye contact breaks to the side.  Nothing more to see here. 

I post up at the bar.  Blue eyed Etonian tractor beams me from across the room.  She walks over to me smiling.  She must be a pro.  She stands right next to me facing me.  I'm still facing the bar, with just my head turned.  She stares me down for 10 whole seconds, testing to see if I am the real deal.  After deciding I am, she takes my arm, as if to claim me.  Then suddenly, her friend appears on the other side of me.  A raven haired beauty w trendy bangs, and green eyes.  This one is also playing staring game.  I am sandwiched between 2 hot staring Estonians, fearing for the sanctity of my soul, and wallet. 

Finally I break the silence and say, "pretty eyes" to the raven.  She takes my other arm, and leads me outside to the smoking area.  She waves off her friend.  They have some sort of understanding. 

I'm expecting her to talk price, but instead we have a nice conversation about documentary film making, and the fluidity of love.  She has skull earrings, and black nail polish. 

Over the hour, I learn that her ex-husband is in prison, and she was involved in criminal activity against her will during their 7 year marriage. Then she says, "just so you know, I'm also crazy."

I know many of you are thinking, "who cares, just bang her". But my experience is enough to know that ONS sex with a chick this crazy will certanly lead to major drama. Maybe even robbery while I'm asleep. She takes my hand in hers, trying to build kino with me, and establish a physical connection. Her hand is bone dry though. Not moist and sweaty like a chick who is genuinely turned on. I excuse myself to get a water at the bar.

I notice a pretty brunette seated by herself. I sit down next to her, and she opens great. She is there by herself. Is a teacher. She is breaking eyes downward, very exaggerated and submissively. After 20 minutes she asks how long I am staying. I tell her the truth. After that, she tenses up to my arm and leg touches. I attempt to bounce her to another spot, but she declines. I invite her to dance with me, but she politely declines, and goes to dance with herself. Fuck.

Next, I post up next to a giant tittied Finn girl I had my eye in from earlier. Blue eyes, reddish brown hair. She has long painted white slutty fingernails. A little chubb in the midsection, but hey this is Scandinavia, not eastern Europe.

"Come here often?". I marvel in amusement at the originality of my don't-give-a-fuck openers. I get all 3 attraction signals. Hair touch, smile, and questions back. When she asks how long I'm staying in Helsinki, I again experiment with honesty, saying "I leave town tomorrow. We'll have to make this a fast romance" (true). Usually I just tell them I'm living there, wherever I am at the time, because it works.

Her friend is an ADD cockblock from hell. Tugs her arm to pull to the dancefloor, but my big titty Finn girl stands her ground and keeps talking to me. I reward her with a cheek kiss, and bounce her to the couches.

We get cozy on the couches. She tells me she has so much to say to me, but doesn't know the words in English. I ramp up kino, and after 20 minutes of difficult conversation over blaring hip-hop, her tounge is inside my mouth.

My hands wander her body. I squeeze her giant tits, and rub her cooch over her skin tight pants. I whisper in her ear, "you are driving me crazy. I want you."

She says, "I want you so much too. Please don't do this to me now."

I ask why? She says, "you aren't staying here. I don't want to just fuck somebody for 1 night."

God damn it. I try to amp up her buying temp, but it's too late. She has switched over to logic mode. I attempt to go logical too, and explain that we're grown ups. We can do anything we want. Including stay together if we end up really liking each other. But it's too late. Primal chick logic has effectively shut down her body chemistry from mating with me tonight.

The club closes, I walk her to cab, she kisses me goodnight, and tells me to see her again next time I'm in town. Walk home with my dick in my hands. Wake up to her text, "nice to meet you last night [Image: smile.gif]"

Learn from my mistake. While touring, ALWAYS tell a girl you live there. No exceptions. You can come up with a reason why you had to leave later.


Bottom line:

Though I didnt pull the ONS in Helsinki due to a stupid mistake, club game felt easy here. Daygame on the other hand, was a slog through major bitch shields. In Scandenavia, daygame and club game difficulty are reversed.

Unless my club girl sends me lingerie pics (ie. guarantee of sex), I will not come back to Helsinki. I will still visit Stockholm & Oslo at some point, in the hopes that one if them will be friendlier.

Until then, I still seek the nordic pussy paradise. Wherever it may be...
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Interesting that you follow roosh path Poland-Ukraine-Finland.It is common knowledge among old pick up guys on Rhodos that Finnish girls were by far the easiest.(till the demolition of Iron Curtain and the storm that followed).
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I don't understand why you were being honest. Was that more important than banging?
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Do you think coming from Kiev affected your perception of Helsinki? Like if you had come straight from the US, maybe the girls wouldn't have seemed so feministic?
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Quote: (10-24-2013 08:21 AM)Menace Wrote:  

I don't understand why you were being honest. Was that more important than banging?

Maybe he was influenced by roosh remark on Bang Iceland that the girls there prefer to have sex with guys who leave early so their reputation remains.
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Thanks for the great report & pointers. It appears as if day game is tough even though foreigners can really control their own destiny in club game (outside of Miliklub of course).

How would you rate club game in Iceland vs. Finland?

I have some pretty easy leads in Helsinki if I ever decide to go there though shelling out $90.00 per night as you mentioned for airbnb might not be worth it as I can spend that money or much less for something similar in St. Petersburg or Kiev.
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Quote: (10-24-2013 09:14 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2013 08:21 AM)Menace Wrote:  

I don't understand why you were being honest. Was that more important than banging?

Maybe he was influenced by roosh remark on Bang Iceland that the girls there prefer to have sex with guys who leave early so their reputation remains.

It's tough to read these situations. I've heard that the ONS is no big deal in Scandi culture. If they like you, they go home with you.

Saying he lived there could also have bit him in the ass. She could have said "well, let's hang out this weekend then" (i.e. push for a date so she doesn't feel like a slut since she "waited" to fuck him).

The truth is he went to Helsinki on off nights for a very short stay in a less busy time of year. The venues may have been target rich over the weekend to where he could approach more and likely get a flag.

There simply weren't enough targets.
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Welcome to Tallinn[Image: biggrin.gif]
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I'm not surprised at all that you found daygame to be hard. Finns are not very open to being approached during daytime. I don't do daygame, but i'd imagine that indirect(elderly opener) might be better in Helsinki. Your nightgame report sounds pretty usual to me.

I don't agree with this however:
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90% feminists
60% hipsters
50% uglies
33% fatties
7% cute blondes
1% smoking hot dime pieces
90% feminists? please... How many feminists did you meet during your stay? Can't say that i've met any this year. Obviously they are not as traditional as in EE or Asia but still.

I have no idea why you even bothered with Milli tbh.
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The "how long are you staying" line was very popular the last time I was in Sweden over four years ago. The funny thing is it was with girls I wasn't interested in and who approached me.
Finnish girls are generally easy or have that reputation, maybe when they are not at home.
$90 for a room in Scandinavia is dirt cheap.
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Well, hold on hold on...

If you say you live there, you'll also run the risk of removing the sense of urgency and she might be more inclined to make you wait - especially if she's a cool person. I won't say this risk is huge, but it is there.

So I just tell people I'm there on business for a few weeks at the moment, but I come regularly do to my work. They never ask what you do. If they do, just make up some shit about consulting.

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Quote: (10-24-2013 08:21 AM)Menace Wrote:  

I don't understand why you were being honest. Was that more important than banging?

I was experimenting with a new approach. I thought maybe it would work better, but it didn't work at all, twice.

Quote: (10-24-2013 08:38 AM)William Windsor Wrote:  

Do you think coming from Kiev affected your perception of Helsinki? Like if you had come straight from the US, maybe the girls wouldn't have seemed so feministic?

Yes, it definitely affected my perception. Kiev is THE poosy paradise. It's a tough act to follow.

US or Scandi feminism, the feel is similar to me. Not worth the mental energy to dissect either one.

Quote: (10-24-2013 09:43 AM)yb13 Wrote:  

How would you rate club game in Iceland vs. Finland?

Reyjavik bars were totally dead on off nights. I'm not sure that Iceland has a proper "club" in the whole country. I wasn't in either city for Fri or Sat night, so I can't compare.

Overall, I disliked Helsinki less than Reykjavik. Reykjavik was simply a game wasteland for me. Helsinki can be good. But it's not consistent.

Quote: (10-24-2013 10:24 AM)evilhei Wrote:  

Welcome to Tallinn[Image: biggrin.gif]

Thanks! I love this city on day 1. Think I'm gonna be here for a while. Might be my favorite city overall so far.

Quote: (10-24-2013 11:10 AM)The Great Basilisk Wrote:  

I don't agree with this however:
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90% feminists
60% hipsters
50% uglies
33% fatties
7% cute blondes
1% smoking hot dime pieces
90% feminists? please... How many feminists did you meet during your stay? Can't say that i've met any this year. Obviously they are not as traditional as in EE or Asia but still.

I have no idea why you even bothered with Milli tbh.

Questioning statistic on the internet? Ye of little faith...

Let's see; Blue hair. Nose piercings. Skrillex haircuts. Reindeer socks. I saw all of these, multiple times. Didn't exactly scream traditional feminine values to me.

But if you've been there a year, I'm sure you know something I don't. I was there 3 days.
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Quote: (10-24-2013 12:05 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

So I just tell people I'm there on business for a few weeks at the moment, but I come regularly do to my work. They never ask what you do. If they do, just make up some shit about consulting.

This. I just tell people "I visit (city) frequently" so they know I'm leaving but am a regular. Work? Marketing or exports.

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Quote: (10-24-2013 12:05 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

Well, hold on hold on...

If you say you live there, you'll also run the risk of removing the sense of urgency and she might be more inclined to make you wait - especially if she's a cool person. I won't say this risk is huge, but it is there.

So I just tell people I'm there on business for a few weeks at the moment, but I come regularly do to my work. They never ask what you do. If they do, just make up some shit about consulting.

OP was staying in a hostel, so the "i'm here on business line" won't exactly fly. What businessman you know stays in a hostel?

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Quote: (10-24-2013 06:59 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

After opening a particularly memorable blonde dime piece, I later asked if Milklubi was any good.  She said, "Oh yes.  An American writer has said it is the easiest place for girls in the whole world...this is why me & my friends don't go there anymore." 

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