[Spider]

So a few weeks back, I mentioned in the approach thread how my game has evolved and my success with laying high quality girls has increased greatly http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14130-...pid534731.

Part of that been from reading lots of game material, browsing through the forum and meeting a few members, and most importantly, approaching and practicing well, hitting on girls; this includes increasing my aggressiveness, pushing sexual encounters as far as I can, letting anxiety drift to the back of my mind rather than letting it hinder my willingness to approach, and lastly, accepting the fact that I will get rejected – some girls will walk away from me, tell me they’re not interested, not respond to my texts, or flake on our plans – others however, will gladly meet me for lunch, come over to pregame, eventually (or that night) bang me, and become repeat customers

…Oh, and I’m in college, so that makes things a whole lot easier.

I live with one of my best friends, who also has much better success with girls than the average student, and we go out a lot together during the day to meet and talk to girls. Recently, guys in my fraternity as well as some of our roommates have been asking us for advice. My advice is always read Roosh’s articles, and read these 3 books: Bang, Day Bang, and Mark Manson’s Models…and come approach with me. I love helping, or at least trying to help my friends get a little more comfortable with talking to girls – it’s hard watching your close friends sit there talking to a girl when you know she’s interested and he should be escalating, taking her back to his place, etc.

Anyway, since my boy and I enjoy approaching and teaching/giving semi-lessons to some of our close friends, we were thinking about trying to make some $ from this.

Our business idea was that we would 1st create a Facebook Page which basically discusses the idea of learning game and how to better communicate with girls etc. We would then post our info on the different class Facebook pages. For instance, our University has a Facebook page dedicated to the class of 2017, 2016, 2015 (there are other places we need our business advertised, just not sure where else yet) – Input here would be great.

What we would offer is a free session where the guys would come sit in our living room, and the 2 of us would discuss our backgrounds, how we got started, how we improved ourselves, and what they can do to have better success and have more relationships with higher quality girls. We would talk and (hopefully) entertain them for an hour or so, and open up questions at the end. My friend has been taking videos of his approaches – maybe we could include this, or maybe not (and maybe I should start recording too – seems like a hassle but if others think it’s a good idea I will invest in something I can make videos with). What I think is most important is not necessarily proving to them using videos that we can help them, but showing through just us speaking, exchanging stories, ‘motivational speaking’ and so on, that we can guide them and inspire some positive change in their lives. Obviously they have to take our advice and choose to apply it themselves; motivation cannot be spoon-fed.

After our free lecture/meet-up, the guys would be able to sign up and pay for private in-field coaching, or group lessons.

I’m still unsure weather or not this idea is pragmatic, but I don’t see why we shouldn’t at least try it. Nothing really to lose by trying to coach some younger guys, and since we’ll have fun with it I don’t really see the downside. We also won’t be revealing our personal identities on our FB page. We’ll talk to those interested privately after they contact via FB or via the email address we will also provide on our page. Hopefully we can wind up making some money.

Since some of you coach game currently or have had similar ideas and experiences, I would appreciate some input. Any specific advice on what we should avoid or what we should include/aim for would be great.

Looking forward to your responses

[eradicator]

There is already a huge market for this, and the really thirsty guys will pay thousands of dollars for a bootcamp weekend session with RSD or some of the other PUA 'gurus'. A lot of what they teach is pure marketing: i.e. "Looks don't matter and game is everything!"

I am not saying "don't do it" but rather be aware that you are entering a very crowded field already. You couldn't possibly be worse than a PUA 'guru' like Mehow.

I would suggest that you maybe get more experience before trying to teach game, a lot of the 'gurus' that teach PUA just seem like the blind leading the blind, and I wouldn't want you to be like that.

That said, there is definitely great demand for what you are describing: many thirsty guys out there with weak game.

[The Beast1]

Most of the guys that really need the help won't accept or want to hear it. Most people know what they need to do to better themselves and they would rather continue their fragile life they've built up to defend their egos.

Game is great, but you have to have a real drive to fix your self esteem. That's something that needs to be realized. Otherwise the, "work out, eat better, get a good job, do some cool hobbies," lines will go in one ear and out the other.

[gandt]

You REALLY need to know your shit if you are going to teach. By the sounds of it you guys just started. So if you are burdened with very inexperienced students it might actually hinder your development and drag you down.

You are in college right now man. It's your time to enjoy. Soak it up.

[Deacon0228]

So you're going to be teaching a whole frat about game on an open social site and have all the guys gaming the same turf(campus)? After awhile all the girls will hear about it and then the second any one of you dudes goes to talk to a girl and they find out you're from bla blah blah frat you'll get X out.

Keep it low and discreet inside the house only.

[XXL]

I think that good way to teach this stuff is to offer your company to other guys who want to pull. That's it. No lectures, no game theory, no "my story" bullshit. The schtick would be something like... "wanna get laid? Go out with us".

So the way I see it is that you're out together and you both harass girls except that you focus on the guy getting laid orchestrating his success not yours. When you succeed to get your guys laid then they might be interested in something more in depth about game and stuff. But that's too much for this kind of scenario. Besides, it's college, go out, harass girls, have fun, pull, high five each other the next day

It's like you hosting your friend showing him your town inside out. You take him with you and lead all the way providing him best entertainment you know.

[Spider]

(10-17-2013 12:56 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  

That said, there is definitely great demand for what you are describing: many thirsty guys out there with weak game.

That's basically what I was thinking. While I'm sure some guys learning about game will get sucked into the RSD craze or something similar, I would guess this might pique the interest of guys who haven't heard much or done any research about game.

(10-17-2013 06:16 AM)gandt Wrote:  

By the sounds of it you guys just started. So if you are burdened with very inexperienced students it might actually hinder your development and drag you down.

We're definitely relatively new at it, but I've always been under the impression that teaching something helps you improve on it yourself. For example, when I'm studying for a math or business-related exam, helping my friend understand a concept and walking him through the necesary steps to figuring something out, it in turn helps me understand the topics better. I think this applies to game as well. While coaching some weak betas might not improve my game all that much, I don't see how it could drag me down much. And I'm confident in my ability to pull, not trying to act cocky and think I'm the shit. While freshman year I pulled a bunch of cute girls, there's no way I would have considered this because I didn't have my shit together mentally, and while I still got with girls, I couldn't really understand or explain what I was doing. I'm much more comfortable now around girls and people in general, and much more self-aware of my behavior and its consequences.

(10-17-2013 10:08 AM)Deacon0228 Wrote:  

Keep it low and discreet inside the house only.

I feel what you're saying with that. My goal was to actually teach dudes who are weak and don't necesarily live close by me. While I have talked stuff through and gamed with a couple of my close buddies, I have no intention of helping all the guys in my fraternity...call it selfish, but I prefer having the upper-hand at a house party or mixer etc. Last week I paid close attention to one of my brothers spitting weak game at this cute Colombian girl - she was leaning into him and smiling, but instead of making a move, he just sat there and kept telling her boring stories about fights he had been in. She eventually walked home with me and we made out for a little...I don't want a ton of guys all gaming and competing with each other in close quarters, definitely something to consider.

[Spider]

(10-17-2013 11:23 AM)XXL Wrote:  

I think that good way to teach this stuff is to offer your company to other guys who want to pull. That's it. No lectures, no game theory, no "my story" bullshit. The schtick would be something like... "wanna get laid? Go out with us".

So the way I see it is that you're out together and you both harass girls except that you focus on the guy getting laid orchestrating his success not yours. When you succeed to get your guys laid then they might be interested in something more in depth about game and stuff. But that's too much for this kind of scenario. Besides, it's college, go out, harass girls, have fun, pull, high five each other the next day

It's like you hosting your friend showing him your town inside out. You take him with you and lead all the way providing him best entertainment you know.

So you're saying offer to go out with them, get them drunk, make sure they have a good time. And instead of trying to let laid myself, watch him and give him pointers, even throw him some assists or introduce him other chicks. Basically do whatever I can to help him get laid.

Then if he has a good time and wants to hangout again, offer him something that he'll have to pay for? <-- sounds like another viable option.

Course I could always sell weed for money...but that's less fun, and carries a greater risk.

[XXL]

Yes, something like that. At least that's my first thought. That's how I can imagine teaching pickup in college scenario. When you think about it similar thing happens everyday in college. There are cool guys who are the party and make shit happen and all the rest that want to join in hopes to get some by accident.

When you combine those two worlds... you go out and party as usual and you bring like 2-3 new guys with you and try your best to get them laid. At first it's more passive. You get them excited and boost their confidence by introducing girls to them, structuring the pull and overhyping them to girls.

I did it once like that. My buddy had a girl with him and I overhyped his ass like crazy, talked about our memories and adventures etc, told her how lucky she is to hang out with him etc, she was blown away hahaha. The next morning he was sooooo grateful about what I did, she basically became his groupie that night. Good times

It can be as simple as talking about some party and chatting up some guys asking if they come blablabla.. "it's gonna be awesome don't you wanna get laid? yo we got Agirl, Bgirl and Cgirl coming, let's invite some more and we're set". The more casual and natural it sounds the better. I'd avoid giving off the whole "pickup" guy persona and giving lectures and shit. That sucks in college. It's exactly the same like teaching your friend some game. You do not teach him. You lead by example, include him, make it fun, let him taste it for himself and let him decide whether he wants some more.