[xmlenigma]

(08-22-2017 03:36 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 10:08 PM)dknightbro Wrote:  

I typically keep my texts short and don't build any sexual convo into it, but maybe it's worth experimenting

Before they let us make love their bodies, we must first make love to their minds..

How can we access their minds.

Through their phones!

Texting is now an Emotional Medium

Your texting is an extension of you personality!

I love the sexualization & comfort you did on text.. "was there a preamble" to this/ in person or so? Because I cant see doing that with every female on text, unless the playful participation becomes more "role playing" or in person some of it was set up..

What was your pre-amble with this asian 18 airport drop? If any?

I've seen the same work (with an ex) when we were in college/ virgins.. But we'd already been making out a lot.. Its the mental visual via words.. so it helped heat it up..

My concern/ observation is this.. several times girls & women (even older) love it.. on text.. but in some ways it scares them off..

This "judgement call" on whether to sexualize it over text or NOT (in case that scares her from meeting) Wait till you are in finally meeting person..

Any experiences/ observations on this judgement call? I know there's variation from each person/ situation but there's got to be some collective wisdom here.. especially that you've garnered on the youngers?

[Giovonny]

(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)xmlenigma Wrote:  

What was your pre-amble with this asian 18 airport drop? If any?

Your senses are correct, The "preamble" was important.

We met on campus. I got her number. We texted a little bit. We HUNG OUT ONE NIGHT FOR LIKE 30 MINUTES, JUST OUTSIDE HER DORM, we didn't make out but we got a little TOUCHY..

Also, we EXCHANGED PICTURES..

TENSION and CHEMISTRY were brewing before I ever started the sexual texting.

(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)xmlenigma Wrote:  

Because I cant see doing that with every female on text

You are correct. Not every female will be open to this type of sexual texting.

But, some of them will..

My killer instinct was strong with this one. I could tell she was horny, I could tell she liked me..

So, I felt comfortable sexualizing the communication. I was subtle about it.

It all started with this line:

"I know you're a smart girl and you probably think that I'm just trying to sleep with you"

Subtle yet direct and SEXUAL.

My instincts told me to take a chance. I did not make a conscious decision to sexualize. This was purely the result of all my practice and study of the "secret society".

It was totally spontaneous and instinctual. It just happened, I didn't plan it.

(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)xmlenigma Wrote:  

"judgement call" on whether to sexualize it over text or NOT

Any experiences/ observations on this judgement call?

The judgement call is a "vibe", an instinct..

But, besides that "killer instinct" stuff....

Use simple communication skills.. Does she respond to playful jokes? Does she respond to light teasing? Does she ask personal questions? Does she seem interested? Does she seem sexual/horny?

The more you practice, the better your instincts become.

--

More information on 18 to 21 year olds here:

Gaming 18-20 year olds

[rudebwoy]

Had something happen to me a few times last week at my local Starbucks.

3 young girls that were working during the summer, approached me at different times and asked me if I was going to miss them since they are going back to school.

Only 1 of them I would probably dabble with, but not put in any real effort.

Is this how young girls flirt with older men?

[ksbms]

(09-07-2017 11:26 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Had something happen to me a few times last week at my local Starbucks.

3 young girls that were working during the summer, approached me at different times and asked me if I was going to miss them since they are going back to school.

Only 1 of them I would probably dabble with, but not put in any real effort.

Is this how young girls flirt with older men?

Either an attention whore or DTF. Screen out heavily and spike sexually to find out the former or the latter. If the latter, find out logistics on the spot, if not busy, immediate bounce to a bar and escalate. If busy, take a number and set up a date asap.

I wish I had girls to do that me...

[rudebwoy]

Lol the one I would dabble with, is starting University in a town driving distance from me. She is 30 years younger than me.

It is my local coffee shop, so I don't want shit coming out.

Also the manager likes me, even offered me a part time job there. I am seriously contemplating it, I see lots of potential.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

I'd imagine working there even PT would put you within reach of a lot of primo younger chicks

Semi-related story: A couple weeks back, I was posted up in a Starbucks near me during a particularly slow time. There was a 30-something year old guy and a cute younger chick behind the counter. Since I was working nearby, I could over hear their conversation. Basically the cutie was openly flirting with her co-worker. He told her he had a gf, but she persisted even up to the point of asking if he would date her if he were single despite the age difference. He asked her age and she responded 19. From the sounds of it, he could have gotten the lay fairly easy that same day. He agree to meet up with her so he might have closed the deal.

[Giovonny]

(09-07-2017 11:26 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

asked me if I was going to miss them since they are going back to school

Is this how young girls flirt with older men?

No. Not necessarily

In this case, I sense a combination of playful trolling and seductive baiting..

They are just playing around in a flirtatious way to see how you will respond.. It's literally a form of feminine playfulness. It's the equivalent to us playing ball or working out, they get off on the thrill of it.

They want to see the look on your face when they ask you. They will subconsciously look at your pants to see if your dick gets hard.

They toy with men. Not in an evil way.. It's just sexy amusement to them. Testing their pussy power. Seeing how influential it is.

They know they are "barely legal", they watch porn. They tease the line of whats appropriate and whats not. They have dark and dirty fantasies just like we do, trust me on that.

They engage Rudebwoy because he is muscular and masculine. His masculinity invites their femininity.

How will you handle it? How will you handle their sexy questions? This is what their mind-vaginal curiosity wants to know..

Their is no logic to it, don't assume they think like us, they don't.

I would roughly classify it as:

20% - playing
20% - flirting
20% - trolling
20% - attention whoring
20% - baiting

It isn't just one single thing, it''s multiple things mixed together in their teenage stew of inexperienced emotions and hormones.

They don't know if they like you yet or not.. They engage you to see how likeable you are.

If you can get their minds engaged and show consistent masculine grace, they will fuck you.

An attractive older man is a treat to a sexy young girl.

[Moma]

Also Gio, these lizards could have daddy issues! I fantasise about jooking a MILF and then her of legal age daughter next! It almost happened once but I'm not enough of a bastard to pull it off!

[rudebwoy]

Gio - your mastery of the young girl market is truly outstanding.

I suspect two of the girls might have daddy issues, meaning they didn't grow up with daddy in the house.

[Mufasa]

(09-07-2017 04:36 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

How will you handle it? How will you handle their sexy questions? This is what their mind-vaginal curiosity wants to know..

Their is no logic to it, don't assume they think like us, they don't.

I would roughly classify it as:

20% - playing
20% - flirting
20% - trolling
20% - attention whoring
20% - baiting

It isn't just one single thing, it''s multiple things mixed together in their teenage stew of inexperienced emotions and hormones.

They don't know if they like you yet or not.. They engage you to see how likeable you are.

If you can get their minds engaged and show consistent masculine grace, they will fuck you.

An attractive older man is a treat to a sexy young girl.

No wonder I'm fucking up.
Been matching with 18-19 year olds on tinder now that school is back in session and I've been getting no luck on responses.
Im in my mid 20's but after reading what you've written some that have responded have tested their pussy power and I definitely dropped the ball--completely different game than young postgrads.

page 11 is a gold mine of info Gio thanks for that.

Over tinder messages it seems that sexual and mysterious are the way to go?
I have got to acknowledge that she's on some forbidden fruit type flow and trying to intact a fantasy without being too overt?
Also got to keep in mind the secret society stuff. That aspect of game always slips my mind.
salute

[RogerThat]

I'm 30 +/- a couple of years. I'm starting grad school in a large urban city and my target is around 21-25 (but I would go lower). Is it better to have an apartment in the city center or close to the university? For Fri/Sat and in general, I know a high traffic area is best but this age group isn't always around Mon-Thu (I know this from working in midtown). They're near uni. So if my goal is to build an FWB/ONS type arrangement during the week, is it better to be close to school or just a bit far away (giving her an opportunity to feel like she's getting away/won't be seen or judged by her younger peers)? I'm worried about being "that guy" given my age and I wonder if its better to keep a slight distance from school.

[Conquerer7]

Went to a freshers fair today full of 18 year olds even though I study online while using the universities facilities when I fancy. The best of both worlds. Handing out a lot of crappy food and the like but the main thing being handed out was condoms. A good thing in the sense of seeing these young girls giggling and looking ready to get it at, a bad thing in that these brainwashing liberal universities and colleges are encouraging them to have sex and lose their ability to pair bond while becoming future cat ladies. C'est la vie.

[Giovonny]

(09-07-2017 04:41 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Also Gio, these lizards could have daddy issues!

Yup.

That is very common. So many single and divorced parents.. So many over worked, unhealthy, and stressed out parents...The majority of young women DO NOT have a healthy relationship with their father.

This naturally creates curiosities and longings..

If her father was not around... A MAN is a NOVELTY to her.. Some of them are excited by this.. It effects them on a deep level.. We call it "daddy issues".. Maybe its just a young girl getting in touch with masculinity? Filling a void that needs to be filled?

I will continue to research this.

--

For those that haven't seen it, here is something I wrote nearly 5 years ago when all of this was new to me.. At the time, this seemed like startling revelations... but now, it all seems quite normal.

DADDY ISSUES

Quote:

"Father Figure Game" - Fill the empty spaces left by her father;

She will crave attention, guidance, direction, discipline, etc. She will crave a masculine presence in her life. I take a position superior to her. I speak to her form a place of authority, the same way a father would. I correct her when she needs correcting, I advise her when she needs advising. I help her focus her life and get on a path towards success. This is what she wants, this is what she needs, she was just lacking some strong, male, adult leadership

Addressing these things as they relate specifically to her life will cause her to get emotional and connect with you. They crave masculine leadership in their lives.

Quote:

"Older Man Fantasy Game" - Satisfy her curiosity and need for new, exciting experiences;

She has a good relationship with her father. She is fresh out of high school. She is away at college in the big city. What does she want? She wants fun and excitement. Now is her chance to experiment with sex and drugs and try all the things she has been fantasizing about since she was 12 or 13. Fucking an older man is often one of these fantasies.

I take a different tone with these girls. I don't speak to them in a fatherly manner like I would with the other girls. I present myself as a fun, cool, established older guy that can introduce her to the new experiences that she is looking for. I take them to downtown San Francisco for lunch and shopping. Many times I pick them up at their dorm room and no one knows but her and I. I make the fantasy a reality!

I've learned so much since them. I feel like I'm just getting started!

I want to know how deep this "rabbit hole" goes!

(09-07-2017 04:41 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I fantasize about jooking a MILF and then her daughter!

LOL!!

The "Albert Einstein"!

You can do it!

If the mother likes you, she will often GIVE YOU her daughter!

(09-08-2017 02:08 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

Been matching with 18-19 year olds on tinder

have tested their pussy power and I definitely dropped the ball--completely different game than young postgrads.

Yes, undergrad and post grad are 2 different ecosystems. Different games.

Older girls think.

Younger girls feel.

Just a rough generalization.

(09-08-2017 02:08 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

Over tinder messages it seems that sexual and mysterious are the way to go?

Careful with being too sexual, too soon.. When I have successfully gotten sexual, it was only after I had built a foundation of comfort and shared intellect.

(09-08-2017 02:08 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

I have got to acknowledge that she's on some forbidden fruit type flow and trying to intact a fantasy without being too overt?
Also got to keep in mind the secret society stuff.

Yes!

Now you are starting to "see" "the matrix" and mindscape of the "secret society"

[debeguiled]

All the young girls

Under the circled moon

The fall of their feet

Seeking their silver fox

[IntermediateBanger]

I live in a college town and I have found that driving uber/lyft during closing hours I get better genuine interactions and more numbers than I do hitting on them inside the bars/clubs. Sometimes you can even take them straight back to your place. Driving a nice car helps.

[rudebwoy]

I am starting to think I should pay more attention to this age group.

Girls in this age group have a certain innocence about them and a lot less baggage.

I was almost ready to take the coffee shop gig, but I have a new gig coming up that will not allow me to do it.

Low and behold, they have a new doe-eyed, fresh face gal with a big ole juicy butt now working at the spot.

[Kid Twist]

(09-17-2017 12:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I am starting to think I should pay more attention to this age group.

Girls in this age group have a certain innocence about them and a lot less baggage.

I was almost ready to take the coffee shop gig, but I have a new gig coming up that will not allow me to do it.

Low and behold, they have a new doe-eyed, fresh face gal with a big ole juicy butt now working at the spot.

This is absolutely the case.

It's that irony you that hits you like a freight train: The older women get the more cynical and demanding they are. Lemme see, yeah, I'll take the younger/hotter/innocent/less cynical and fun girl every time. Hmm, I wonder why?

[MongolianAbroad]

(09-15-2017 04:05 PM)IntermediateBanger Wrote:  

I live in a college town and I have found that driving uber/lyft during closing hours I get better genuine interactions and more numbers than I do hitting on them inside the bars/clubs. Sometimes you can even take them straight back to your place. Driving a nice car helps.

A buddy of mine did this with a Tesla. Worked.

[Dalaran1991]

Bumping this thread full of gold nuggets from Gio.

18-20 pussy are undisputedly the best, no discussion there.

Question: how do you guys deal with the emotional instability and immaturity issues?

I had to cut off a cute nymphomaniac 18 yo plate because I thought she was disrespecting me multiple times. Talked about it with some redpill friends and they said it wasn't really a lack of respect, she was just young and retarded and didn't know better. Some other gents also said if you are dating this young you need to tolerate a lot more shit than usual.

If I have to be really honest with myself, I'd concede that her behaviors would simply be annoying to me if I was 22. Now at 27 and recently out of a good LTR, my bullshit tolerance goes way down and I think I'm having a bit of old man "get off my lawn" syndrome.

On the other side of the argument there's the tried and true "never let a girl disrespect you / set your standards"

[Noir]

^^ Most men around 30 don't know how to respect people let alone an 18 year old.

It's the unwritten rule of game, younger girls are hotter yet malleable in nature so you can't expect her to treat you the way you wish. You gotta chisel that stone into the statue you want it to be.

I don't really talk to 18-22 year olds that much anymore because they're immature and feel generations apart. It's just a matter of commonalities and finding shit to get along over juxtaposed with my set of expectations from a woman.

Good for FWB but not good for prolonged interactions. They lack the emotional maturity, social skills and have short attention spans.

Your redpill mates summed it up and knowing you, you know this. The answer to these things are usually easier than you think.

The disrespect/standards part comes later on and with younger women, later than 25 year olds for example.

Besides, I believe you can only get annoyed by things you see yourself (past/present) doing. Accept their nature and move on.

You wouldn't buy an Alfa Romeo (looks great) and complain because it's depreciating faster than a Honda or because it's not as reliable. If you did your due diligence, you would know what you were getting yourself into.

It's the nature of women.

As for how to deal with it, I just withdraw their #1 stimulus, attention. I ignore and speak to other women.

Of course the type of disrespect can vary (calling you at 2am demanding to be picked up vs insulting your family vs ditching you for her mates when you have plans etc. etc.)

[Spartacus]

Depends your age...