[VincentVinturi]

I thought it would be entertaining and instructive if we posted a few real life stories of overcoming seriously gnarly LMR.

I'll start:

This happened just yesterday so it's fresh in my mind...

I met a tiny little 20 year old thing on a Thai dating website. Doesn't weigh more than a 100 pounds and rises up just above my chin. She's painfully cute, has smooth dark skin (which I prefer over the ghost white pale thai girls), big full lips and these giant brown eyes that look around her with childlike curiosity.

We met on Sunday afternoon at the train station. I came up and gave her a big hug. I engulfed her tiny frame in my arms and she meekly looked up at me. I liked her immediately.

I visually took her in for a few seconds. She was wearing hip-hugging black pants that outlined wide hips and a small waist (my favorite female feature), and a cute little butt. She had on a blue and white top with fit-in-your-hands little boobies peeking out. The only make-up she had on was some mascara highlighting those gorgeous doe-like eyes.

Our plan was to go to the park but it was raining. So I took us to the mall instead. So much the better. The mall is closer to my apartment.

She was sheepish and didn't say much but we were touching a lot. I picked up a few things at the mall that I needed anyway (yogurt, blueberries, dark chocolate) and led her to the bus stop.

I took us to a really nice coffee shop just 10 minutes from my apartment. We sat in a little upstairs corner booth and looked at the drinks menu. "What do you want?" she asked.

"Green tea." I replied. Her eyes twinkled and she exclaimed "Me too!" I thought it was cute how excited this made her. And it kind of got me excited too. I don't know if it's due to her being so young (she's 20; I'm 27) or because she's just young in spirit, but I felt giddy spending time with this girl. I was genuinely enjoying our date (and the overture to a potential sexual encounter).

We drank our tea slowly and touched a lot. She opened up and shared things with me. We laughed and looked at each other a lot. She could only handle the intense eye contact for a little while before pressing her cheeks with both palms to try and hide a big grin she couldn't suppress. Just too adorable.

But the saccharin cuteness didn't detract from a strong male/female dynamic. Some Asian girls are artificially cute with hordes of stuffed animals and contrived gestures and shit. But this was unconscious on her part, which is what made it so damn cute!

So, I paid for the tea and told her I'm going to show her my neighborhood. I threw my arm around her and pressed her close to me and we ambled slowly towards my street.

Sidenote: I've run some variation of this same exact date template dozens of times.

-- The first venue is a bit far from my place (the park).

-- The second venue is 15 minutes from my place by bus (the mall).

-- The third venue (the coffee shop) is a 10 minute walk from my apartment.

I've learned the hard way that changing venues HAS to always move from furthest away to closest to my apartment. Especially if I mention the itinerary beforehand.

To wit, I stupidly fudged an easy lay just the day before. I made a date with a sassy little thing, and the plan was to go to the park, then get a drink (closer to my place), then bounce to my place which is just a 10 minute hike. But I was late to the date and just fresh out of the gym, so I smelled like ass.

So the order was all wrong.

We went: Park ==> My place (to shower, change) ==> drink

When we were at my place I tried to turn up the heat but her mind was set on that stupid drink ("what about the drink? Let's go get a drink?") and she kept rebuffing me. I probably could've plowed through it but I figured fuck it, we'll get a drink and then come back here for sexytime and it'll be like cutting butter with a hot knife thanks to the alcohol.

Except... after our drink, she said thanks, gave me a peck, and went to a party. And I was left with a hard on and no means to naturally assuage the pressure. And also, I felt like an idiot for making such an amateur mistake.

Anyway, back to our tiny 20 year old, tan-skinned cutie...

We got to my apartment and I took her out on the balcony where I showed her the view. I stood behind her and wrapped my arms around her. I brushed the hair on the back of her neck aside and kissed her bare skin. She wasn't wearing any perfume or anything. Just smelled like skin (mmm) with a bit of shampoo scent from her thick black hair.

She got a little edgy and turned around to give me the speech. "Listen, I'm not having sex with you..."

And so the negotiations began. At first, she refused to let me kiss her. It took me an HOUR to get her to kiss me. I used pretty much every LMR technique in my toolbox.

I picked her up and tossed her on my bed. I mounted her and pulled her hair and went caveman but she turned her face away insistently. I showed her some jiu jitsu and took her back and put her in a body triangle so she couldn't go anywhere and teased her, spanked her, dominated her.

She was enjoying herself and the physical dominance was starting to visibly turn her on but she still refused to kiss me! So then I started with the psychological warfare...

First I named the elephant in the room. And talked casually about how kissing is natural, and what's the big deal. And first date, third date, what's the difference. Obviously, none of this was said in a whiny "come on....why not??!?!" kind of way.

I also moved our conversation in the direction of sex. I asked her when was the last time? How was it? What do you like in bed? etc etc.

I kept moving close to her (we were sitting on my bed) but she kept pushing me away with a sly grin on her face. I could tell there was a very strong sexuality pulsating underneath the adorable veneer. I just had to penetrate the bullshit.

Way earlier (in the mall and in the cafe) I was touching her copiously, pinching her skin, sliding my hands up her butt and squeezing her hips and scratching her lower back erotically. Just trying to turn her on basically.

I kept amping this up as we sat on my bed. She kept hand fighting with me but I just kept persisting. She didn't get up to leave; that's all the indication I need that she WANTS to be with me and she WANTS me to get physical with her.

After about 45 minutes and literally about 50 deflected kiss attempts, I looked up at my computer and wondered if I had got any email. As I checked my email and she sat alone on my bed staring at me, I realized I was freezing her out. It wasn't necessarily conscious but I thought "wow, this is so pickup!" and had a chuckle to myself about the cliché-ness of the situation.

At this point I took my shirt off and made sure she got a good look at my body. I'm a pretty fit dude, six pack, decent size, and I've found thai girls value physical attractiveness quite a lot. More than American chicks, anyway. But let's not sour this story by talking about them.

I came back to my little cutie in 10 minutes and she was ready to kiss. Didn't take long for the lights to go out and the clothes to come off.

I had taken Cialis all weekend starting on Friday, as I had 4 dates lined up and wanted to make sure I could handle all of them if the sex came to fruition with all 4 girls.

Man what a beautiful little body this girl had. I was so turned on by this chick. I couldn't believe how hard I was for her. It was definitely increased by the Cialis but there's no denying I was fucking attracted as hell to this girl.

Unfortunately...she was on her period. I almost pulled the red blanket routine but to be perfectly honest, I don't enjoy having sex with a girl when she's on her period. And most girls are too self conscious about the blood and the smell and the appearance to enjoy it too.

So she jerked me off and I spilled abundant amounts of my seed all over her beautiful little titties. It's worth noting that I almost NEVER get off on just a hand job. But again...very turned on.

She cleaned herself up, I showered and then we went to eat at a little thai restaurant. We sat close and touched and connected and ate a giant, delicious meal of spicy fish, shrimp omelets, egg salads, rice and beer --- for all of $12.

I realize that LMR for a handjob isn't quite the same thing as convincing a girl to let you stick your dick inside her. And I bet you guys have much better stories anyway, so let's hear them!

[Bander]

Went home with a girl (amature fitness model, small perky tits but nice ass, solid 7). Ended up going back to her place, we go into her bedroom making out, taking off our clothes, completely naked and her straddled over me says "Why do you want to have sex with me?" knowing that it was a LMR I said "never mind I dont want to have sex with you". She responded well and asked "what did you say, what did you say?" while trying to kiss me I would turn my head.
She ended up hopping back on top of me and well you know the rest...