[Roosh]

Quote:

A top Conservative official has been arrested over a historic allegation of rape.

Tory vice-chairman Alan Lewis, 75, who was appointed by David Cameron, was held by police after a woman claimed she was attacked in the late 1960s.

The self-made tycoon, who owns the Crombie clothing chain and is thought to have a fortune of between £220 and £260 million, was reportedly arrested at a Manchester hotel while on a business trip.

A Greater Manchester Police spokesman said: "A 75-year-old man was arrested following a complaint received earlier this year of an historic rape that occurred in the Manchester area in the late 60s.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...46098.html

I thought it was a joke but another story corroborated the arrest:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ala...an-2313388

Historic rape... that's a new one.

[presidentcarter]

Absolutely disgusting that a respected man, or any man, can be reduced to a jail cell at the whims of a women. Even if the judge throws it out...it's scary that it could get as far as an arrest, not to mention the unflattering PR.

[Yatagan]

How the fuck could they even prove he did it? And why wait so long to file the claim?

[Aliblahba]

Quote:

"It could not have come at a worse time. Alan’s arrest will become the talking point of next week’s conference.”

How convenient.

[Tuthmosis]

I guess they don't have a statute of limitations there.

[Sp5]

(09-28-2013 11:12 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I guess they don't have a statute of limitations there.

They abolished the statute of limitations for rape in most anglo jurisdictions years ago. It had to do with child molestation cases, and later, DNA.

This is an extreme case - unless the complainant has corroborating evidence, like friends who remember her complaining at the time, or a diary entry, or a medical visit, the complaint should not have been brought. I suppose he could have brutally raped her years ago, but it's just too late. He's prejudiced by not being able to assemble a defense.

I guess they used "historic" because "ancient" would have made it appear even worse.

All it takes for a man to be arrested is the not obviously false complaint of one woman.

[WanderingSoul]

Did they have any evidence AT ALL to arrest him on?

People should not be getting arrested for any crime just based on accusations.

If she came to the police with the allegation, they should interview her, interview the alleged attacker and any witnesses, compile any evidence they can, and then make the arrest if there is sufficient evidence to do so.

Arresting men for rape and sexual assault based solely on a womans word is ridiculous.

It reminds me of calling the secret service and telling them your neighbor is a communist because he wouldn't stop parking in front of your house.

[presidentcarter]

(09-28-2013 01:31 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

It reminds me of calling the secret service and telling them your neighbor is a communist because he wouldn't stop parking in front of your house.

Or this:

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

It's ridiculous. Rape seems to be the only crime for which someone can be imprisoned merely on someone (woman)'s word, no matter how long ago. It trumps everything, even capital, war and especially inhumane and cruel crimes.

If a 90-year old in Germany were suddenly accused of having been an SS member who massacred Jews in concentration camps, he would be asked to come to court, not handcuffed and sent to jail. What if someone accused him of having shot his neighbor and thrown his body in the river 50 years ago? Still no jail. But say the word rape, and the man is immediately a greater threat to society than a ticking nuclear bomb.

[The Lizard of Oz]

This is the sort of thing that goes beyond the merely outrageous.

I hope someone is taking down the names of whoever is responsible for an arrest like this -- the police investigator that decided to proceed with this sort of case, the judge that issued the arrest warrant, and of course the crone who filed the complaint. There has to be a price to pay.

[Wadsworth]

Witch hunts, communist hunts, rapist hunts. Same shit, different century.

[Parlay44]

If she filed the charges herself there's no way it'll hold water. No lawyer would file charges unless they thought they could win. It'll settle out of court for $50k and a non-admission of guilt to make it go away. He obviously pumped and dumped her years ago and she's been holding onto the bitterness. In her mind she probably sees his fortune as could have been hers. Mo money Mo problems.

[thatGuy]

Archeorape.

[Agent 47]

Stupid cunt waited 40 FUCKING YEARS to report that she was allegedly "raped". 40... FUCKING... YEARS...
Goddamn this shit. Fuck that bitch. I hope she dies alone in that cold hole she crawled out of.

[RawGod]

The context is "Tory vice-chairman". This isn't just a men's rights issue about some old guy, it's purely political.

[MHaes]

I thought MPs had immunity. Is that only in some countries?

[playa_with_a_passport]

(09-28-2013 01:31 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Did they have any evidence AT ALL to arrest him on?

People should not be getting arrested for any crime just based on accusations.

If she came to the police with the allegation, they should interview her, interview the alleged attacker and any witnesses, compile any evidence they can, and then make the arrest if there is sufficient evidence to do so.

Arresting men for rape and sexual assault based solely on a womans word is ridiculous.

It reminds me of calling the secret service and telling them your neighbor is a communist because he wouldn't stop parking in front of your house.

It happens all the time. All the police need is a victim who is pissed off enough to go thru the motions(Grand Jury, pre trial notions, trial) and keep her stories semi consistent through out the process. Evidence is a nice bonus but not necessary to win a conviction in a sex crime. In some US states you can't even attack her character because of rape shield laws.

A woman(preferably White, blonde and young) crying her heart out at the stand and pointing her finger to you at the defendant's table is all the evidence the jury needs.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Rape accusations and arrests have plummeted since the introduction of Internet porn (source here).

But what if your livelihood depends on there being lots of rape? What if you're a rape counselor, a police chief, or own stock in a for-profit prison?

Then you have to invent new crimes. This is why we now have trafficking hysteria, the phrase "rape culture," and this is why we now have the absurd "historic rape."

What will make it go away? Well, in the 1980s feminists changed laws so that teacher-student sex became a bigger crime whether or not the student was a minor. So they came up with the "balance of power" bullshit. Now that females are being caught in that Web, they regret it.

They'll regret "historic rape" when women start getting hauled in on charges. If any guys here had sex with older women while in their teens, now's the time to file charges and get a payday!

[Benoit]

(09-28-2013 10:24 PM)MHaes Wrote:  

I thought MPs had immunity. Is that only in some countries?

In the UK, MPs have 'Parliamentary Privilege' which only applies to a very narrow set of circumstances, as this is a criminal case it can't be used.

We have a major problem at the moment here with ancient cases being revived on what appears to be flimsy evidence, then other accusers come out of the woodwork once they see a chance to get some attention.

I've done some background research on the current spate of celebrities being locked up for historic sexual assault claims, for one of them the central claim was than he gave a girl a smack on the arse 40 years ago. I'll leave you to judge whether that's appropriate use of police resources.

[bacon]

Between having sex with a girl who had any level of alcohol now being considered rape and 40 YEAR OLD rape claims leading to the arrest of a senior citizen can there be any doubt that the Anglosphere has allowed rape, no matter how absurd the claim, to be a legal weapon for any women to now punish any man.

[MrLemon]

(09-29-2013 10:30 AM)bacon Wrote:  

Between having sex with a girl who had any level of alcohol now being considered rape and 40 YEAR OLD rape claims leading to the arrest of a senior citizen can there be any doubt that the Anglosphere has allowed rape, no matter how absurd the claim, to be a legal weapon for any women to now punish any man.

Exactly. This is a witch hunt. Real, no kidding, no joke.

The feminists want to arrest ALL men, or better yet, use the threat of rape charges to control ALL men's free speech. We are creating a new class of political prisoners, this time it's middle-class men.

Nobody cares if it's "right" or "wrong." This is all-out war, in which feminism makes men into an oppressed class. It's like the Nazis and the jews, the Soviets and dissidents, the Chinese Cultural Revolution in the 1960s.

It's war gentlemen, and you are the targets. Will you run, fight, or submit? You will be forced to do one of those 3 things. None of them will keep you safe.

[Aliblahba]

^^^ I don't worry about it too much or put myself in the position. Things will come to a head, as the more women push, the sooner they are to awakening a sleeping dragon. At some point men are going to push back and the feminist aren't going to like it. It'll happen during a major war or economic collapse. Maybe its only 2% of the female population pushing the agenda, but fuck all they are loud and annoying.

Or the powers that be lets one of feminist wack job ideas finds its way to the Supreme Court purposefully for an embarrassing smack down. Still though, it will get worse before the pendulum swings in our favor.

[The Lizard of Oz]

One insufficiently understood reason this demented "rape culture" propaganda has gotten as much traction as it has is that rape is such a common sexual fantasy for women.

Many of them are excited and fascinated by the idea of sexual violence and this drives them to return to it again and again, and imagine a world in which it is actually common. There is sometimes an almost hypnotic quality to feminist babble about "rape" which is a sign of strong sexual excitement.

The white knights and manginas, who could not possibly have less understanding of this reality, swallow the whole thing hook line and sinker. They are earnestly scandalized by "rape" narratives that are often little more than female text porn.

[MrLemon]

(09-29-2013 03:59 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

One insufficiently understood reason this demented "rape culture" propaganda has gotten as much traction as it has is that rape is such a common sexual fantasy for women.

Many of them are excited and fascinated by the idea of sexual violence and this drives them to return to it again and again, and imagine a world in which it is actually common. There is sometimes an almost hypnotic quality to feminist babble about "rape" which is a sign of strong sexual excitement.

The white knights and manginas, who could not possibly have less understanding of this reality, swallow the whole thing hook line and sinker. They are earnestly scandalized by "rape" narratives that are often little more than female text porn.

This has been true of many types of witch hunts...

The Salem Witch trials in colonial america were prompted by young women who would have almost orgasmic convulsions as they claimed satanic influences.

When Black men were lynched in the deep south, it was often the women were were in front of the crowd shouting hysterical hatred, women who were secretly fantasizing about black men

[Parlay44]

A pussy is too powerful of a weapon to walk around with without a permit