[2Wycked]

NOTE: I am mimicking TLP's writing here, so take the insults with a narcissistic grain of salt. I also did not expect my writeup to end up where it did.



Relevant link: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/09/r...innes.html

Please read it first so all of this makes sense.

Alone defines a beta male as this: He is the kind of man who anxiously looks for something to identify him as a man, while doing nothing to become a man.

Now, I am going to assume you are familiar with my writings on beta males and narcissism - if you are not, check my profile and read up, or go on RoK and see my past articles. My Fatso thread is most relevant here for the Google challenged.

Alone is spot-on with his assessment of beta males. The most intriguing aspect of the beta male mentality is his desire for signals of masculinity, while doing nothing to actually be masculine. You notice this in his actions. Does he engage in behaviors that expose his ego to potential attacks? Do he sacrifice real, substantive possessions, emotions, etc. for others? What are his values?

Take young cats on the forum or who are new to the game. If they consistently approach, even if they get blown out, what separates the beta from the nascent alpha is his actions, not his reactions. If he fails opening a woman, does he wallow in his failure or try to analyze why or he failed or simply move on? The difference isn't really one of alphahood, but one of psychology. It can be fun to debate the exact contours of what is or is not alpha, but what is always most relevant is personal psychology. Plenty of alphas are sociopathic assholes who may be able to command respect in the public sphere, but privately are trainwrecks psychologically. Most relevant here, for my purposes, is the personal motivation that spurs men to transition from betas into alphas.

Society does nothing to inculcate positive masculinity in men, as Alone points out. While many alphas exist without active self-improvement in teenage+ years, those men are often simply reactions to poor parenting that either has them acting out roles of fathers or father stand-in's or a reaction to terrible mothering. For most men, betahood is little more than a narcissism otherwise known as codependency. Don't be fooled, just because codependents are worlds different than clinical narcissists because they actually can feel feelings, their feelings are necessarily bound up in reactions to perceived desires of others. In other words, they exist to express emotions that they think others want them to. Narcissists express them without any feelings, codependents experience them, but not because they want those feelings, but they have learned that they exist as a conduit for other's feelings.



I may have butchered that a bit, but its late and this Guiness isn't drinking itself. Moving on, what Alone conveys is that these males have become much like women - not much is expected of them because what they value is meaningless and is expected of men with no praise or recognition. You can make arguments about this social convention is bullshit or whatever, but you are playing right in the idea that men aren't men anymore and that is signified by the men targeted by this ad. No, it isn't a conservative appeal for white-knightery or a feminist complaint of men not wanting to pay child support, it is society's collective exasperation with men, collectively, not doing what they done from time immemorial - what is necessary for the perpetuation of society at large.

The problem is, what exactly is holding men back? Is it feminism? Is it shitty divorce laws? Is it female-centric parenting/schools? You would be right to critique all of those institutions, but you are missing what is by far and away the most salient point - you.

You see young cats, like IRT, log onto here and bitch about their race, STD's, OMG!!!! FALSE RAPE CHARGES!!! Shut the fucking front door, you cunt. Those are just defenses against change. Success can be had and if you and if it is a desire of the first order, then you would be doing it. Recall my Clarence Thomas thread. He grew up in a time with much more racism and achieved, at least in the legal profession, what is considered one of the heights of personal success. If you are black and you think racism is holding you back, look in the mirror. Oh wait, you already are.

All of that shit are just defenses against change. Women, implicitly and explicitly, expect men to get their shit together and be a man of action (masculinity) and not a reactive force (femininity). Those constructions of masculinity and femininity are crude and shaped by the current narcissism of America, but they exist still. Say what you will here, but if you are not a man of action, then you are beta. I don't give a fuck if you don't want to get married, but don't fucking blame it on shitty divorce laws. Jesus, do I need to buy you some tampons? Yes, I whoreheartedly agree that divorce laws are fucked up the ass, but you are using that as a defense against admitting that the concept of investing a significant portion of your identity in somebody else is terrifying. Sure, you have been taught that, but by perpetuating that in your mind is simply you being lied to by yourself.

If you think this is some sort of white-knighting blue pill rhetoric, read all my previous posts in one sitting. Seriously. Like Alone said, if this pisses you off, ask yourself why. If that video tugged at your heart-strings, think about. It doesn't make you a bad person if you are honest, it only makes you a bad person if you lie about it. Or not. Whatever. I will admit, I had mixed feelings, which means I am still partially in the Matrix with you. Shit, spartacuz tossed both Matt Forney and I in the gas chamber, maybe we can make a RVF meetup out of it?

In all seriousness, I agree our society our society is fucked. The problem is what happens in the interim. That means your life. As I have already stated, men are not provided with the means to develop a stable, concrete identity, otherwise known as masculinity. Roosh has talked that homosexuality is more socially-constructed than most admit. He is right, because the vast, vast majority of men - including gay men - are far more masculine, naturally, than they are currently. Interestingly, this speaks to the power of socialization, as most men are socialized out their natural roles.



What this results in a class of men who "want to want things." They desire blondes or bisexual women not because their dick gets hard over those women, but because they want to be men who desire those women. The problem inherent in that is it isn't based out of actual sexual desire, but social approval. Snap that pic with the hottie who claims to have eaten out Jenna Marbles! Ah fuck, why do you need Viagra to fuck her?

The narcissism of the beta male is about the suppression of true desire. The rhetoric surrounding homophobia is painfully expressive of this. Idiots think they have hit on some truth that some men suppress their desire for cock by pretending to be straight. Check out the women closeted gays claim to desire. You will be able to tell what sort of man they want to be by their choice of women. Sure, they may eventually admit they are gay, but simply because the boner doesn't lie about the gender desired but can be lied to about most everything else. Note, this isn't about social constructs of beauty, but about what truly gets you turned on.

This analysis has gotten away from me a bit, but a final point is about beta males not becoming who they want to be, so they marry a woman that represents who they want to be. Some recent haters on RoK (on Twitter) has shown this. Many men rail against the perceived misogyny of RoK, claiming they married a goddess or an "intelligent, independent female." What they are signaling is their inability to be those men, so they "love" a woman who represents who they desire to be see as. A bunch of mindless fags in a "relationship" with another object. I wouldn't worry too much, she gets to pretend she is a wife and mother and he gets to pretend he actually matters intellectually or whatever. All that matters is the image, the identity ported out.

When the movie ends (the curtain closes - you transition from public to private) betas and their churlish loves realize they have no idea what to do, so they fall back on what they know - female superiority in the relationship. Betas fall back the authority figures of their youth - mothers and teachers - and their women act out those roles. It may never feel right for either party, all those feelings can immediately be quashed by rhetoric about equality, sexism or whatever. That is narcissism.



The atomization of society is complete, as "Brave New World" predicted. Outlets of real personal change, like this forum and RoK, are mocked and derided as they represent the sort of person most could never be. Expressions of rage & anxiety rule the day and are the only emotions allowed in a society that fundamentally feels nothing. The deadened remains of a once great society are swirling about, begging to be tugged on and implode. Mirrors always crack and reality always worms its way into your consciousness.

As Alone ends with, when your narcissism is confronted with reality, the result is always rage. So what? I have a empty bottle of whiskey and you have read my post - what does it really matter? It does matter and what is the overriding concern is what you do with the time - that is what truly matters. Do you spend it watching and identifying with advertisements on ESPN at 4 P.M. or do you hit the gym, critically analyze your game or better your mind by reading a book that challenges your worldview?

The world is at your feet, do you accept it? A parable in the Bible involves God giving a man the means for success, only to bury it deep in the ground resulting in God yelling at the man, "Ungrateful servant!"

Actually that's not the parable, but the lesson is similar: use the time you have to be the man you want to be. It can be very tough as most men are not given the tools to know how to desire - they simply are told what to desire.

You can get there. Start today. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain. I can speak from experience - I started off losing - but I have grown as man. Alone talks about the intractability of social narcissism, but I believe you can do much to change your life if you fall into the category.

Spend that time, invest that energy. There is no greater investment.

[Kaii]

I just wanted to pop in and say great write up. It's interesting to me me how narcissism effects single individuals as well as society as a whole. I find the more narcissistic tendency you have, the harder it is to change. Hopefully, as people become more aware of the red pill, minds will be easier to change.

[Sombro]

Quote:

Who is the ad trying to attract? [...] It's beta males. The best of men, except for actual men. What is a beta male? He is the kind of man who anxiously looks for something to identify him as a man, while doing nothing to become a man. For him, there's Guinness.

Exactly. "Cargo Cult" thinking is usually a dead giveaway that someone is a beta or wannabe.
But this isn't anything new with advertising.