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#76

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Hmm. Have just read through this thread as I'm soon to be moving to Seattle as I have a job there.

I do concur that the quality of the women wasn't very high. There was one quite good night out though (SoDo, after the tailgate for the Huskies game), and I am probably comparing too much to Texas and SoCal which are the best parts of the country for women IMO.

Will see how it goes. If it really is that bad, I'll have to to up sticks and move again. There are lots of mountains nearby, Vancouver and Portland are only a few hours away and being foreign will surely give me the inside track on the girls.
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#77

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36 hours in Seattle

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The sky is often gray, the residents tend to be muted (except when cheering their teams), calm waters lap the green cityscape, but beneath its mild exterior, Seattle has always careened wildly between boom and bust. For better or worse, boom is the mode of the day. Though the tunnel project designed to give the waterfront a highway-free makeover is currently stalled, the rest of downtown is roaring with new construction and high-end repurposing of historic buildings. The food has never been better, and the traffic never worse. Fall days can be wet, but as any photographer will tell you, the city is at its loveliest when slicked with rain.

Friday

1. A Spin in the Great Wheel | 3 p.m.

The Seattle Great Wheel, open since 2012, looks like a carnival ride that washed up at the end of a pier in Elliott Bay, but the view from the 175-foot-high Ferris wheel of water, city and, if you’re lucky, the Olympic Mountains, more than compensates for the corniness. Gondolas ($13 plus tax; $8.50 for ages 4 to 11) are fully enclosed so you can ride the wheel in comfort, rain or shine.

2. New Life in Old Haunts | 4:30 p.m.

For decades, the stately old brick and granite blocks around Pioneer Square have given off a creepy, neglected vibe. No more. The award-winning local restaurateur Matt Dillon took a gamble recently by opening three new restaurants here on the same block — the creative small-plate Bar Sajor and two different establishments called London Plane (a soaring wine bar at one end of the block and a bouncy, bright breakfast and lunch place at the other end). Mr. Dillon’s bet paid off. Trendy shops are springing up beside venerable neighborhood institutions like Glasshouse Studio (affordable glass jewelry, vases and lighting pendants) and Stonington Gallery (Northwest native artists and artisans). Check out the skulls, taxidermy, antiques and Victorian mourning pieces, like wreaths made of human hair, at the aptly named Belfry Oddities & Collectables. If you’re flagging, grab a table at Zeitgeist Coffee and settle in for a macchiato ($2.50) and ginger molasses cookie ($1.80) while you peruse arts and events listings in the rack of local weeklies and magazines.



3. Liquid Sunshine | 6 p.m.

Given Seattle’s soggy reputation, Damn the Weather, another Pioneer Square newcomer, may just be the best-named bar in town. The décor is an urban-rustic patchwork of wood and brick, and the price is right for draft beer (Oregon’s 1811 Lager for $5.50), French cider (Pacory, $7.50) or Spanish sherry (La Garrocha amontillado $5). Or you can spring for one of the celebrated bartender Bryn Lumsden’s fancifully named cocktails (Waltzing Matilda, with gin, fruit juices and cava, $11). If you’d rather toke up than tank up, take a 15-minute bus ride south of Pioneer Square to Cannabis City — the first legal pot shop in downtown Seattle.

4. Dîner, S’il Vous Plait | 8:30 p.m.

If you’re thinking that celebrity French chef plus chain hotel location equals pretentious, overpriced food, you’ll be thinking again after a night at Loulay. Thierry Rautureau (“the chef in the hat”) gives traditional French brasserie dishes a fresh twist by using locally sourced produce and shellfish. The mussels with merguez sausage and garlic frites ($16) are a delicious duet performed by fat Penn Cove mussels and crispy fries soaked in garlic and oil. Crab beignet ($10) is like a fancy lobster roll with crab fritters and harissa aioli substituting for lobster and mayo. Open just a year, Loulay manages to be at once theatrical, soothing and reasonably priced.

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Saturday

5. Grab and Go, or Linger | 9 a.m.

Assembly Hall, the new outpost in the empire of the Seattle restaurant czar Tom Douglas, has you covered no matter what your breakfast fancy. If you’re rushed, head to the take-out counter for a pretzel bagel ($2.50) and smoothie ($6 for a pineapple lassi) and then perch and munch in the foyer. If you care to linger, settle in for a leisurely Asian-themed brunch (kimchi pancakes, $13; vegetable frittata, $14) at Tanaka San, the adjoining sit-down restaurant. After breakfast, play shuffleboard upstairs or gaze at Amazon’s new headquarters going up across the street.

6. Good-Looking Glass | 11 a.m.

Opened two years ago on the grounds of the Seattle Center, Chihuly Garden and Glass showcases the prodigious talent of the Northwest glass artist Dale Chihuly with a series of jaw-dropping indoor and open-air installations. Each room is like a stage set in which shimmering cones, spears, coils, discs and snaky Medusa-heads of multicolored glass explode like frozen fireworks. The show continues outdoors in a sprawling, witty garden design where plants and glass pieces tangle, embrace, compete with and complement one another.

7. Lunch Aloha | 1 p.m.

Board the West Seattle water taxi at Pier 50, and $8 and 15 minutes later debark in Hawaii. Or at least Seattle’s take on a laid-back islands dining spot. Marination Ma Kai, at the West Seattle ferry landing, recently graduated from roving food truck to waterfront restaurant with a killer view and inspired Hawaiian-Korean fusion cuisine. The miso-sake marinated fish tacos ($3) are delectable but tiny; order four, add kimchi fried rice with spicy pork ($7.50) and you’ll have an ample, piquant lunch for two.

8. Rain or Shine | 3 p.m.

Seattleites never break for rain, so even if the weather is drippy, why not join the locals for a post-lunch stroll through Seward Park (20 minutes from downtown by car). This 300-acre peninsula jutting into Lake Washington preserves some of the last old-growth conifer forest inside the city limits. Alternatively, hoof (or cab) it a few blocks from Pier 50 to the Wing Luke Museum of the Asian Pacific American Experience in a circa 1910 building in the International District. This Smithsonian-affiliated museum explores the rich past and present of the region’s Asian populations through multimedia exhibits, costumes, oral histories, folk art and historic structures, as well as neighborhood walking tours.

9. Boat to Dinner | 7 p.m.

The food is classy and creative, the décor has a jaunty nautical lilt, and the setting on Lake Union with a private dock and fire-pit is unbeatable — if only Westward took reservations or answered its phone, all would be peachy with the city’s hottest new dining spot. Still it’s worth the wait to join techies tucking into Zoi Antonitsas’s smoked manila clam dip ($11), wild salmon gravlax with triple-thickened Greek yogurt ($14) and quail with fregola sarda (a nutty pearl-like Sardinian pasta), chard and onions ($29). The wood-oven roasted marble potatoes ($9) and a jar of house pickles (ever had pickled cherries or grapes?) are a must.

10. Song and Dance Options | 10 p.m.

Capitol Hill, which on Saturday night seems to have more bars than parking spots, is night-life central — and Havana Social Club is at the throbbing epicenter. With its swaying palms and gold pressed-tin ceiling, the place feels like a quaint old tropical hotel, but instead of fox-trotting, linen-clad ex-pats you’ll find mostly young, pierced folks throwing back tequila and gyrating to soul, rap and indie hits. For a more intimate (and live) musical experience, check out Seattle Living Room Shows – pop concerts held in private homes (book well ahead; $16.).

Sunday

11. Brunch in Ballard | 11 a.m.

Ballard, a residential neighborhood northwest of downtown, has undergone a swift transition from Scandinavian suburb to happening haunt with great shops and restaurants. Stoneburner, on a pretty street lined with inviting shops (Lucca for candles and diaries; Re-soul for cool wallets and pointy shoes), perfectly captures the spirit of the new Ballard with its cheery tile and wood dining room and local farmers’ market produce. Brunch options range from the traditional (biscuits and gravy with scrambled eggs, $12) to the hearty (meatballs with polenta grits, fried egg and braising greens, $13) to the hyper healthy (raw kale with spicy breadcrumbs and pecorino, $9).

12. The Frye Heats Up | 12:30 p.m.

Locals overlook the Frye Art Museum because of its dowdy permanent collection, but the place has an edgy new air these days with off-beat exhibits (a crowd-curated show called #SocialMedium is on display through Jan. 4, 2015) and a good cafe (sandwiches, salads, Caffe Vita coffee). Parking and admission are both free, and the gift shop is a good place to get that last-minute present — stylish contemporary scarves, table ware, jewelry and pottery.

LODGING

Plush, sleek Hotel Ballard (5216 Ballard Avenue NW; hotelballardseattle.com), on Ballard’s best shopping and dining street, offers 29 rooms and suites done up in velvet and leather. The 50,000-square-foot fitness center is a major plus, as is room service by Stoneburner. Rates for a standard king run about $239.

Hotel 1000 (1000 First Avenue; hotel1000seattle.com) combines crisp corporate amenities (downtown location, spa, floor-to-ceiling windows) with down-home friendly service (dogs are welcome). Guests love the tubs that fill from the ceiling, the fireplace lounge off the lobby and the golf simulator. Rates for a standard double run about $275.
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#78

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Gonna be in Seattle this weekend 3/27-29 and saw that it was coincidentally the same time as Emerald City Comic Con. Wondering if it might be a dark-horse type of environment: lots of omega males wandering around either fucking shit up or making normal guys look decent by comparison. Also noticed how many attractive women are now getting into the whole cosplay scene, where they dress up as anime and video game characters... could be worthwhile.
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#79

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I just spent a few days (two nights) in Seattle. The purpose was not game, it was a rendezvous thread-9856-...pid1298453

We stayed at the Mayflower Park. Its a central location, but not really close to much besides shopping, otherwise its a 5-10 min Uber to better night locations.

I was meeting a girl at the hotel, and I arrived there first. The check in girls were very friendly and I was able to get them to price match my second night to my first night, which was almost half the price. Good start.

I get a bucket of ice for champagne sent up to the room, then head down to Oliver's Bar in the hotel lobby. Its fairly packed with women pushing 40, but decently attractive. All have massive rocks on their fingers and are buzzing hard off their martini's. The hottest one, an Asian, is lapping me up. It got even uncomfortable for me for a quick second as I could feel all the eyes inside the bar upon us. I powered through the shit test and things got back to more typical flirting.

It was at this moment that my girl walked in. Tall, slender and a runway walk, the women at the bar were suddenly daggers as she slides up beside me in her maxi dress and gives me a kiss. Its fucking on.

We kick it in the room drinking champagne until dinner time, and by now we are both drunk on liquor and sex. I'm suited down of course, and she is wearing a silver/blue short wig. With her heels, she is pushing 6' and has real life attention whoring down to a science (she is not on facebook). We hop a Uber to Bitter/Raw-Lark in Capitol Hill. We suck back fresh oysters, abalone carpaccio, fois gras and some wagyu tartare. The food was amazing, we had a corner locked down and this crazy chick had her hand down my pants the whole time. She took to calling me Big Daddy and was getting over the top, so we bounce over to Montana Bar where people like us wont get in too much trouble.

Montana Bar is hipster as it gets, and my girl is whipping dudes into action and pissing off all their girls. Keep in mind, there have been perhaps 2 bangable women so far this night, and Montana has exactly zero. But the guys are digging her, and now she is getting premium Polish vodka shaken into shots for everyone. We stumble out of there before midnight and head home.

Next day is a late start and we head over to my favorite cafe Fonte. I mentioned last time that it was the only place that had consistent hot women, and again it delivers. We have a cappuccino and a light lunch and head to the EMP Museum.

If anyone is into music at all, this place is awesome. They have some rotating exhibits as well, but the timeline on Nirvana is sad and incredible. Upstairs they have jam spaces that are super fun to get into with a girl. Very interactive.

After some afternoon lounging and champagne sipping back at our room we put on our best and head out. She is in a slinky little black dress and killer heels. She has easily the best legs in Seattle and has every desire to show them off. The Muslim Uber drivers are having strokes peeking her lingerie as she gets in and out.

We head to Damn the Weather near Pioneer Square. We chow on some chicken fat, beef carpaccio and some grilled Herring. The Herring was especially good. The cocktails are great as well, and we make friends with the bartenders and down a number of drinks. There are a few good looking couples in here, which has surprised us both. There is a smoking hot girl with her boyfriend and my girl just opens her with "Big Daddy here thinks you are sexiest woman he has seen today". This girl bubbles over with thanks, and we spend the next hour trying to get back to their place. The girl is all over it, but her boyfriend lays down the law. He might have been RVF, we talked a good talk on Trump, standing up for your beliefs and maintaining your life.

No invitation coming, we bounce up to Canon in Capitol Hill. The place is boozy, it has a selection of bottles that blows away any place I have ever seen. They have whiskey from the 1800's that sells for $1200 an ounce. Unreal. Meet some decent cats in here, but my girl is getting insane again so we are off back to the hotel.

Seattle has not changed much, if at all. The real take away from this trip is that some of the men there are starting to talk real. The men here, in my experience, will often play apologists for all sorts of reasons. This might be beginning to change.

The women here will always be the biggest let down. Its just hard to be motivated when most of the bangable women are pushing 40. The younger women do not seem at all interested in keeping themselves looking good. We spent an hour in Nordstrom as my girl did all sorts of makeup purchases. Out of the 10 girls, three were hot. This compared to the Nordstrom girls in Vancouver where 100% are hot as fuck.

Again, I will mention the money. Where the fuck does it go? Seattle is literally crumbling away and the city center looks apocalyptic after 8. Construction seems to take years on simple projects, and yet some of the most valuable companies in the world are here. So where the fuck is all that money? Is it being spirited away? Saved? Its certainly not trickling down, and its certainly not being used to keep Seattle running. It feels like its one recession away from being rubble.

I hear the rich are in constant motion to get away, and stay away from this aspect of life. Instead of investing in their communities, they seem bent on starting new in some other suburb. This has a devastating effect on peoples moral, motivation and sense of belonging. Its backwards to where I live, which is one of the poorest neighborhoods on the continent. Yet there are some of the wealthiest people anchored here, for reason, and for the future of the neighborhood. Giving up seems cowardly, and I agree.

From the conversations I had with people, they are seeing this for the first time. Trump blew through the area, and peoples eyes are open for perhaps the first time as to what a raw deal the locals of Seattle are getting. Seattle sits in one of the most beautiful areas in the world, and it is being underutilized. Its impossible to live up to its potential when people seem content to give up on each other. Bringing people back together is perhaps the only way to fix America. It sounds hippy, but Trump is right. This is an important step in the battle to Make America Great Again.
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#80

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trump did not step foot in Seattle,he is not stupid
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#81

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Different option for starting off the evening that can be fun during the spring and summer months:

Safeco Field, where the Mariners play, has a beer garden out in center field. Not sure if any other ballparks have something like this but I haven't seen it. Buy cheap tickets (<$15) and hang out there instead of going to your seats. Girls here are hit or miss and it can be sausage festy, but there's usually some sort of talent. Either way its a fun place to kick it with some of your boys. Right next to the bullpen too so you can do some heckling if you're liquored up. I saw John Rocker warm up here once when I was a little kid and still remember, never seen someone get heckled that bad in my life, absolutely brutal no-holds barred mass heckling effort.

I love big beer hall type venues because they're usually wide open, have a fun and jovial atmosphere, and most importantly aren't too loud to talk. Girls have relatively lower bitch-shields up in my experience, when compared to clubs.

Rhein Haus is the big one in seattle. It's pretty massive inside with a couple different bars and an outdoor patio area also. It has some bocce ball courts inside which can be a good diversion activity if you got a wing and a couple girls you're working on. Also, it's right next to Seattle University which means there are guaranteed to be some private school coeds there.
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#82

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Seattle is a beautiful place to live but I am not really proud of the women there. Seattle is pretty bad overall for dating and game. I lived there for 14 years. You could say that it's very similar to San-francisco, a sasage-fest. Your typical Seattle woman is pretty educated, fit, most likely vegan and into outdoors. But most women look like shit there due to lack of sun exposure and high on anti-depressant. They don't put much effort into making themselves look presentable. They will just wear whatever is comfortable in public and even to work. They typically wear a Northface jacket and tight sweatpants. Attractive women are hard to come by and even they do, there is already a plethora of thirsty men in IT (working for microsoft, amazon, Boeing) making 100k+/yr ready to shower them with gifts and attention. The pacific northwest is heavily influenced by the Scandinavian population so if you combine their notorious feminism and the usual American women entitlement attitude, you get Seattle women as a byproduct (feminazis). There is a lot of Asian women in Seattle but most of them are just butt ugly for my taste though.

Anyway, go look up Seattle Freeze.
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#83

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I visited my sister in Seattle Spring 2014. Didn't have much time for game as my time was mainly hanging around her. Nevertheless, here's how my trip went:

Day 1
Went to Tamarind Tree first night. We ate an early dinner. Laner is right about some of the older white women who take decent care of themselves. They're polite and even gave me some IOI. They're qualified for the pump & dump but do not merit relationship status.

At some dive bars afterwards, I noticed dudes are very socially awkward. People love bro-ing out on Seahawks, Mariners, and UW (University of Washington). They don't seem to like the Oregon Ducks too much.

Day 2 and 3
Nothing really happened Day 2. Day 3, I walked around Capitol Hill as my sister lived there. Lot of hipster and undesirable chicks..ugh.

At night, I met up with an old college buddy from Texas. He was basically engaged to some chick from college so he would be my wing for the night...(albeit a very inexperienced one). Also tried to hit up RVF Member Hallasan, but he was living outside the city & feeling under the weather

We started at this Mexican restaurant with a chic bar in Capitol Hill. Once again, more attractive cougars at the bar were giving IOIs though I didn't approach. Just played catch up with friend..until next place.

Next bar (sorry can't remember names) had an upstairs section. Downstairs, I open a group of chicks with some guys asking "hey what's the special occasion?" The yuppy white chicks were receptive as we cracked some jokes back & forth. In the meantime, my wingman responded with awkward head nods & half smiles. I swear...this guy is like the half Filipino Richard Gere because his facial expressions remain the same...he could be angry..excited...sad..pleased...can't tell what his mood is bc it's the same dead stare face all the time.

Girls invite us upstairs because it's some chick's bday. As we get some cake, the dudes are semi-cordial but have that socially awkward Seattle vibe. In the bday section, we meet these hipster chicks visiting from Vancouver. They are however kicked out by the females upstairs bc they were not invited whereas they told us we could stay. After several more drinks & conversing...we go back downstairs.

The next girl I talk to at bar is a bombshell though dressed casually. She was a youth swim instructor from Eastern Washington State where the demographics there = hot country white chicks minus the hipster granola shit. I proceed to "push and pull" via light shoulder touch..release..hip touch..release...repeat cycle..then just put my arm around her hips tightly. I could tell she was digging it..it's probably not often these preppy white chicks in the Pacific Northwest get chatted up (let alone heavy escalation) by a cocky Asian dude who feels entitled to their attention.

Next thing you know, her friends cockblock me by grabbing her arm & taking her away to presumably the next venue. She was staying with a friends being a couple consisting of chubby dude with weird looking gf. At that point, my light weight ass got tired as we went to next bar only to call it a night.

I would fly back home early the next day. 2 weeks later..my sister left her apartment in Capitol Hill & moved back to Texas for a much better job offer. She told me the area has changed drastically since my visit in April 2014 with much more "IT Bros" moving into the neighborhood jacking up rental prices.

Not sure I'd go back to Seattle due to time constraints...but there are some good looking yuppy white chicks from the suburbs that are open-minded. Definitely better attitudes towards Asian guys than most of the young Cali or Vancouver chicks. Too many hipster tatted up hipster gals ruin the ratios however.

If possessing spare time & money, I would do a little road trip through Eastern Washington state to see what talent exists out there haha.

Quote: (06-13-2016 12:47 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

Attractive women are hard to come by and even they do, there is already a plethora of thirsty men in IT (working for microsoft, amazon, Boeing) making 100k+/yr ready to shower them with gifts and attention. The pacific northwest is heavily influenced by the Scandinavian population so if you combine their notorious feminism and the usual American women entitlement attitude, you get Seattle women as a byproduct (feminazis). There is a lot of Asian women in Seattle but most of them are just butt ugly for my taste though.

This is a good point. What can help a lot of single guys visiting is that most of these IT dudes are very socially awkward & do not cold approach....unless it's some beta with yellow fever that will throw in a weird attempt on some Asian chick.

Lot of the Asian girls I met in Seattle were meh. There are some hot ones for sure..but they're attitudes suck & are likely in highest demand by the IT nerds, etc.
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#84

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^ Minor date point to add:

One of my buddies in Atlanta did fairly well, but when he moved to Seattle at least a few months back, he definitely noticed a drop in his quality and quantity.
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#85

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I'll throw in my 2 cents after 5 days in Seattle:

Saturday night I started at Earl's.. it was dead, as were all the other bars in that area. Ended up at Rhein Haus.. pretty cool bar with Bocce Ball and a good beer selection. Loaded with talent, but definitely on the younger side.. definitely my kind of bar though for meeting girls. Monday I went to Unicorn and Cha Cha Lounge, both were decently busy but nothing crazy. Tuesday was dead everywhere I checked. Wednesday I went back to Earl's... $5 pitcher night and like other things I've read on the forum, everyone just goes there to get fucked up. If you have half decent style and are a bit older, this place is easy pickings.

For day game, the Pike Place Market is pretty ideal.
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Quote: (09-24-2013 07:00 AM)William Windsor Wrote:  

Seattle is a nice place to live, but you better bring your Ukrainian trophy with you.

And you better keep her locked inside. Once she becomes exposed to feminism you wouldn't want her anymore

Make our guns illegal and we'll call them "undocumented"
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Quote: (09-24-2013 02:34 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

My observation is that most live music venues are bad places for pickup since girls generally don't like paying cover.

The younger millennial women are mostly homebodies if I had to characterize them. I can go to bars and nightclubs in many countries around the world and frankly can't remember the last time it was 1:1 male female or 1:2+ male female inside.

The world is pretty much becoming day game and online game.
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Seems like it's been a while since any data sheets on Seattle so here's my current take:

First things first, many thanks to all the contributors to this forum, its helped me in countless ways, both with the ladies, inner game, and professionally.

Seattle is a unique place, not only for it’s climate and economic opportunities but also for it’s dating scene. The metropolitan area is quite large however for this data sheet I’ll be focusing on downtown, Fremont, Capital Hill (Cap Hill), Ballard. There are other good spots as well which I’ll update with follow on data sheets/posts, but I just wanted to get one out to start contributing.

The Women
Seattle is a tech town (think Boeing, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Facebook to name a few firms that are here) and the demographics definitely reflect that (two thirds of Amazon’s workforce is male). Not only is it a tech town, but it is also a very active one, with multiple skiing options hiking and various outdoor activities, which you know what this means, even the wildebeest women often have their pick of the litter when it comes to men. Even being an active city, the female population doesn’t reflect that when it comes to personal fitness, but I think that’s no surprise.

But there is still hope, if you do your time in the gym, maintain a decent job and learn to differentiate yourself you can do very well here.

If you’re like me and work in tech, you’ll be a dime a dozen in comparison to other dudes out here so you’ll need to find ways to differentiate yourself, often this is easier than it seems. Just being an above average fit guy with decent social skills will be enough for you to add notches to you belt.
In my experience, it’s worked to be the guy who is aloof, has a dark sense of humor, have an above average physique and if you work in tech be the complete opposite of what they think a “tech guy” is. I’ve gotten comments from women saying “there’s no way you’re a software engineer, you guys are supposed to be all neckbeard nerds”.

Most of the men in Seattle are also painfully desperate and will try to tell women everything they think they want to hear, so if you right leaning like myself, and the question of politics comes up, don’t be afraid to say you voted for Trump or are a moderate/conservative or libertarian, not being a push over and being real goes along way, especially in a town like this. Though it is important to note: I’ve told women I voted for Trump and they got up and walked away; though rare it has happened haha.
Online game seems to be the most fruitful for me, however men here are generally passive aggressive and approaching in bars can yield positive results, however expect to get flaked on at a higher rate than other cities.

Fremont
Ballroom – A fairly large bar with a dance floor, pool tables, outdoor patio and various seating indoors. Usually a cock fest, though I would describe it as a meat market, girls go there to get hit on, but are often in groups and the bitch shield is high and strong.

Add a Ball – Retro Arcade bar, mainly locals, kind of an underground spot. A GREAT date location, the games offer a means for friendly competition and making bets, I can’t count the number of back massages I’ve gotten after winning after playing Time Crisis. If your going there to approach, it might be a little tough (groups etc) however its easy to bump into girls and strike up a conversation if you’re playing an arcade game next to them.

Fremont Brewery – A good after work or happy hour spot. Almost always busy, if you have a dog bring it and you’ll have girls coming up to you constantly. Same group obstacle as other bars.

Triangle Bar (previously 9 million unmarked bills) – If you’re spending the night out in Fremont and not bouncing anywhere else, this is a good spot to come by at last call. I’ve found two sets multiple times and closed a few with a wing.

Cap Hill
Rhino Room – Almost always a line, almost always (in my experience) a bad ration of women. I would avoid unless you’ve got a group. Mostly a fratty scene.

Grims – Good place to start the night in capital hill, you’ll find groups of women who are easy to open due to the layout. Usually always a favorable female ration. There will always be a long line after 1030pm.

Barca – I wouldn’t go to Barca to approach, but if you meet a woman out, it is a good place to venue change to.

Comet – Popular spot, usually has a decent ratio of women, but as the night progresses it thins out. If you decide to go here enter through the bar located behind it, they are linked and you can skip the line for Comet.

Cha Chas Lounge – Mexican bar, good ratio of women, easily approachable via the crowded layout, limited phone reception so be prepared for that. Great for dates and approaching.

Cap Hill Gay Bars – Not for the faint of heart haha

R Place – Being a gay bar there are male go go dancers (sometimes one female) so be prepared for that. However, the bitch shields are down and the gay dudes seem to get the ladies in a great mood. You’ll see a good ratio of women here and most importantly they are very approachable. Approach (the women) take them to the dance floor go for a make out and take them home. Usually when I meet a girl at a place like this I play the “you better protect me from all these dudes” and it works well.

Neighbors – Large nightclub Gay bar like R Place (male go go dancers etc), always has a great ratio of women who are approachable. Is the only place open after 2am, they won’t serve alcohol, but everyone ends up here to dance until 4am. If you’re into foreign women, you’ll find them here, I’ve meet Brazilian, Russian, Israeli and an assorted European girls here, a couple of which I ended up in LTRs with. Honestly my top pick for a night approaching, or where you’ll want to end up if approaching all night yielded no results.

Ballard

The Loft – A fun bar generally WSU and UW alumni themed. Good place to start, never really fills up but the drinks are cheap and there will be one or two groups of girls at any given time, though it has been hit or miss recently.

Shelter - Fairly chill bar, very similar to Ballroom in that the women go to be hit on but the bitch shields are high and strong. Usually it ends up with people who don’t want to wait in line for Cedar room which is right next door. The Ratio of women can be rather unfavorable at times, though it fluctuates so it can be hit or miss if you’re looking for a night of approaching.

Cedar Room – Nightclub vibe, In my experience has always had a decent ratio of girls. Every time I’ve gone it has been with a group and we get bottle service which seems to have helped when approaching. In regards to approaching I have a neutral view toward this place.

Kangaroo and Kiwi – Australian Rugby bar without the rugby players. Has a frat house vibe, I’ve found it to have a good ratio of women whom I’ve found to be approachable.
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Hi I have read this and other Seattle threads and looking for a little direction given all the mixed feedback. Travelling to Seattle next Wednesday for two nights on business and staying at a nice hotel downtown. Looking for a few recommendations of where to head out to on Wednesday and Thursday evening (will be going out later than happy hour), figuring I dont want to travel too far and want to keep my logistics tight. Alittle about me, late 30s NYer that can pass for late 20s, in good shape, either wearing a button down and jeans or suited up. Open to younger/college girls to cougars, not sure the "hipster" scene is for me, loud clubs are not. Any hotel bars worth it? Focus on Belltown or Capitol Hill area?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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#90

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Quote: (12-31-2018 10:55 AM)Gnilrets81 Wrote:  

Hi I have read this and other Seattle threads and looking for a little direction given all the mixed feedback. Travelling to Seattle next Wednesday for two nights on business and staying at a nice hotel downtown. Looking for a few recommendations of where to head out to on Wednesday and Thursday evening (will be going out later than happy hour), figuring I dont want to travel too far and want to keep my logistics tight. Alittle about me, late 30s NYer that can pass for late 20s, in good shape, either wearing a button down and jeans or suited up. Open to younger/college girls to cougars, not sure the "hipster" scene is for me, loud clubs are not. Any hotel bars worth it? Focus on Belltown or Capitol Hill area?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Capital Hill and Fremont are hipster feminist hotspots in Seattle so I'd avoid them personally unless you can handle that. Overall most women in Seattle are obsessed with "woman power" and feminism as left wing indoctrination starts very early in Seattle. But I would still stick to an assertive game approach and not being a pushover as paying attention to what they do is more important than what they say. As a Seattle native, I personally like the Polar Bar if you are looking for more upscale setting, I go here dressed as sharp as possible. Radiator Whiskey at Pike Place Market good place to meet young international travelers/students or uni chicks. College Inn Pub in the U District to get those University Students but local talent in the looks department for girls is a bit disappointing. Beveridge Place in West Seattle best beer pub by far and one I go to often as its close. Good luck

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Thanks will let you know!
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