Quote: (09-23-2013 06:24 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
Quote: (09-23-2013 05:11 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:
I got my first tattoo before it was mainstream, when I was 15. My mom probably should have stopped me but instead she went along and signed for it. Probably a poor choice, but I was young and my mom was not all that responsible, so that's life.
Now I deserve cancer? ok...
Chill, brother. I've had my ink for 25+ years - a holdover of both social class and a rough peer group - and I'm sure I've got more than you. I've lost three family members to cancer. I still see humour in the fact that smug vegans who doesn't poison their body with meat and non-organically grown vegetables probably already have with ink.
I'm completely chill - not losing sleep over this or anything.
Your example is completely different though - it's one thing to act high and mighty about anyone who has a tattoo; it's another thing to find humor in vegans who act high and mighty about their "non-toxic" diet choices while doing other toxic things to their body, thus making them hypocrites. The latter is obviously perfectly normal.
I'm sure a lot of tat-haters still smoke or drink copious amounts of alcohol, so we could find humor in that as well. Doesn't mean we're going to wish for it to catch up with them someday - unless we have a pretty negative perspective on life, anyways.
Quote: (09-23-2013 06:48 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:
Quote: (09-23-2013 05:11 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:
Now I deserve cancer? ok...
I'm honestly not for or against tattoos at this point - I could care less what other people do to their bodies. But I have noticed that hating on tattoos has become an "in" thing to do in the manosphere - just as having them has become the "in" thing in mainstream culture.
I don't think he's hating on you. What I have seen, is that it is "in" in the manosphere to hate on tattoos that women choose to get them and display'em for all to see.
From markers or poor judgement and impulse control (tramp stamps) to markers of plain bad taste (and a mirror of the psychosis that chose them), tattoos are a great screening device for women.
Pick the tatted girls for a quick romp in the hay. But don't marry'em.
I believe that's the message here.
Tattoos on men has always meant differently, even if sometimes only by degrees.
Wald
Yeah, you're probably right - I've been in bed sick for a couple days and am bored and irritable, so perhaps I'm overthinking things.
I agree the "tats suck" thing started as a screening device for women, and as someone who is really attracted to conservative women (at least for relationship purposes), I fully support that thinking - though I try not to judge too much when I meet people.
But I've also noticed a lot of guys have drifted into not only wearing their no-tats choice as a badge of pride but acting like they're somehow above guys who do something different.
Sure, be proud of your decision, but gloating is unproductive and illogical. I always argue against this type of black and white thinking, no matter what the subject.
Anyways, I'm sure Samaseau was just kidding around and exaggerating, and I probably read too much into it. lol I apologize if I seized on something irrelevant and made the conversation too serious.
Anyways, glad all my tats are black.
Probably no huge guarantee but still a nice thought.
Beyond All Seas
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling