[torridon747]

Indeed. That's why it pays to make friends with everyone. If you're getting dapped up everywhere you go you're gonna get laid.

[Zoids]

Lived with Steve Jabba for over a year, and bounced around FSU with him - that chap is astonishing, he promised that chicks in bikinis and high heels would walk the halls of my villa in Spain - and over delivered.

Ive also hung out a good amount with Krauser - who is the real deal too - the guy is an approach machine - and among the smartest of people i've ever come across.

Waaaaay back in the day, I knew Ross Jeffries, who honestly seemed 'creepy' - hate to use that shitty word, but a lot of his stuff and the very few times he actually 'sarged' put my stomach in a knot, and brought on repulsed face.

[jselysianeagle]

(02-24-2017 10:25 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

^^ Nah people still go to bars and get laid, I'm just saying the rate of return compared to what you put in, and the diminishing quality you can consistently get, makes it exhausting.

Don't get me wrong, I think doing a bunch of cold approaches is essential to your game and social life as a man, even in a relationship, but for me personally I don't care anymore as I have a lot of other things going on. When I was 18-25 I would game all the time, now I have to be in the mood to even give a shit. Pussy isn't worth that effort any more to me. IMO the vast majority of relationships you see in America are based on long-existing social circles through school or whatever.

The skill to seduce young women whom you have 0 social connections with is quite tricky and requires a shitload of effort, while making it look like you don't give a shit.

That's why its so much easier to get laid at house parties as opposed to bars. Having some social proof makes them drop their bitchiness significantly. After I did a shitload of cold approaches I got very good at social circle game. But women need some sort of 'marker' of your social validation (be it friends, or status) for them to feel comfortable fucking you.

Man this is so on the money, agreed 100%. Just the other day a friend and I were talking about the exact same thing - yeah we've met women and gotten laid through nightgame, but the ROI considering the time and effort over the years has been dismal. We could've launched multiple businesses with the same time and effort, lol

Consistent success gaming high-quality (ie, 8+) random women you meet at bars/cafes etc. is hard, unless you have Brad Pitt level looks or something crazy like that goin for you. (Or you have to abandon your standards and fuck whoever is willing). And Tinder et al have fucked things up even more so I think. Women have always been the choosers but with options becoming that much more numerous and accessible now, they've understandably gotten pickier...

Social circle game, I think, is a smarter way to go. Actually just hangin out with a solid mixed group of friends can make it easier as you look more relaxed...