Today I'd like to talk about an unfortunate phenomenon that has been occurring a little often over the past few months.
To clarify the title, I'm not talking about random girls you approach in bars or on the street. I'm talking about girls whom you meet to do some friendly activity without any direct romantic implications...ie going out for a drink with a co-worker, going for a hike, etc. Then, later on , you find yourself in an intimate situation with her and decide to make a move. The girl then rejects you, becomes "shocked" and it gets awkward as hell.
Here are my experiences:
CASE 1:
I see a girl who just broke up with a guy I know. She is out at a bar and we start talking. She tells me that she has nowhere to sleep that night. She lives in another town, and can't drive back because she was drinking. I offer for her to crash on my couch. We end up back at my place drinking some beer on my couch. We are sitting close to each other, talking and laughing. I start stroking her hair. Her eyes get big and asks me what I'm doing...and that I should probably go to sleep.. The reason given was that she was friends with a girl who I was off and on dating...she's back with the guy I know, and now its a little weird with them..
CASE 2:
A friend introduces me to another girl who likes to do outdoor sports...hiking, biking etc. Since I'm into those things as well, we exchange contact info and decide to meet up. The first time we met, we went swimming at a lake. I didn't make a move because I had too many girls in the rotation (honestly), and I just wanted to hang out. The second time, we go hiking and have dinner. I walk her home, go in for a kiss and she pulls away...I was like ok..I guess we'll be friends then. Haven't really talked to her since.
CASE 3:
I begin talking to an intern where I work. She has a boyfriend, but she is from another city and doesn't really know anybody. I invite her out for drinks, and bring her out a few times to meetup with friends. I'll be honest, my intentions here were about 50% friendly..but I wasn't going to push the issue... Anyway, one day after hanging out we go back to my place to smoke a little weed. In my head, I'm seeing signals. We are close to each other so I go in for a kiss. She pulls away, and is shocked. She couldn't believe that I did that, and asked to know what made me think it was ok to try.
In all of these situations, it is clear that there was a huge disconnect between what was going on in my and the girls' heads. I'm honestly a little confused. In most of my adult life, whenever I was alone with a girl and in an close/intimate situation, usually something happened. The way I had always perceived it was like this: by allowing herself to be put in that situation, that in itself was a green light to make a move. In these cases, I was obviously mistaken. But I have come up with a few theories of why this has happened.
1. Culture. It should be noted that all the girls in the above situation were German. I could be wrong, but it appears that in Germany/Europe guys and girls appear to have more platonic friends. So in their minds, just because you are alone with them, it does not necessarily mean they are interested. This differs greatly to Latin America..where if you are alone in a room with a girl, AND the door is closed, then you are probably getting laid.
2. Naivete. These girls were 22-25 years old. Although I figured they should be aware of the ways of men by then, perhaps they just didn't realize the situation they were in...OR alternatively they might have known. They might have known I would probably make a move, (which would make the expressed shock fake)
3. Me. Maybe I should stop trying to fuck every girl I meet, and just be friends with more girls. lol. It's kind of a half joke. Honestly, I think it would be hard to be friends with a girl if you are only want to get them in bed. In addition, I would probably miss way too many opportunities
Anyway, thats all I have on this. I'd be interested in hearing your guys' thoughts and perhaps experiences on this subject.
To clarify the title, I'm not talking about random girls you approach in bars or on the street. I'm talking about girls whom you meet to do some friendly activity without any direct romantic implications...ie going out for a drink with a co-worker, going for a hike, etc. Then, later on , you find yourself in an intimate situation with her and decide to make a move. The girl then rejects you, becomes "shocked" and it gets awkward as hell.
Here are my experiences:
CASE 1:
I see a girl who just broke up with a guy I know. She is out at a bar and we start talking. She tells me that she has nowhere to sleep that night. She lives in another town, and can't drive back because she was drinking. I offer for her to crash on my couch. We end up back at my place drinking some beer on my couch. We are sitting close to each other, talking and laughing. I start stroking her hair. Her eyes get big and asks me what I'm doing...and that I should probably go to sleep.. The reason given was that she was friends with a girl who I was off and on dating...she's back with the guy I know, and now its a little weird with them..
CASE 2:
A friend introduces me to another girl who likes to do outdoor sports...hiking, biking etc. Since I'm into those things as well, we exchange contact info and decide to meet up. The first time we met, we went swimming at a lake. I didn't make a move because I had too many girls in the rotation (honestly), and I just wanted to hang out. The second time, we go hiking and have dinner. I walk her home, go in for a kiss and she pulls away...I was like ok..I guess we'll be friends then. Haven't really talked to her since.
CASE 3:
I begin talking to an intern where I work. She has a boyfriend, but she is from another city and doesn't really know anybody. I invite her out for drinks, and bring her out a few times to meetup with friends. I'll be honest, my intentions here were about 50% friendly..but I wasn't going to push the issue... Anyway, one day after hanging out we go back to my place to smoke a little weed. In my head, I'm seeing signals. We are close to each other so I go in for a kiss. She pulls away, and is shocked. She couldn't believe that I did that, and asked to know what made me think it was ok to try.
In all of these situations, it is clear that there was a huge disconnect between what was going on in my and the girls' heads. I'm honestly a little confused. In most of my adult life, whenever I was alone with a girl and in an close/intimate situation, usually something happened. The way I had always perceived it was like this: by allowing herself to be put in that situation, that in itself was a green light to make a move. In these cases, I was obviously mistaken. But I have come up with a few theories of why this has happened.
1. Culture. It should be noted that all the girls in the above situation were German. I could be wrong, but it appears that in Germany/Europe guys and girls appear to have more platonic friends. So in their minds, just because you are alone with them, it does not necessarily mean they are interested. This differs greatly to Latin America..where if you are alone in a room with a girl, AND the door is closed, then you are probably getting laid.
2. Naivete. These girls were 22-25 years old. Although I figured they should be aware of the ways of men by then, perhaps they just didn't realize the situation they were in...OR alternatively they might have known. They might have known I would probably make a move, (which would make the expressed shock fake)
3. Me. Maybe I should stop trying to fuck every girl I meet, and just be friends with more girls. lol. It's kind of a half joke. Honestly, I think it would be hard to be friends with a girl if you are only want to get them in bed. In addition, I would probably miss way too many opportunities
Anyway, thats all I have on this. I'd be interested in hearing your guys' thoughts and perhaps experiences on this subject.