[Phoenix]

Yep, the idea of knocking a cutie up is pretty hot. Obviously it would be prudent for her to be as 'traditional' as possible, for the sake of all 3 of you.

I don't agree with the way marriage is used now though. It seems people see it as 'get married' to cement your commitment to each other, then at some point have kids.

This is a very bad relationship tactic. A man guaranteeing commitment weakens his position. We all know the 'master key' saying.

When a man first has sex with a woman, the power shifts to his side. When he marries a woman, the power shifts to hers.

I say the best tactic for when to marry is:
- She has demonstrated she has the qualities and behaviors of a traditional wife
- You have already got her pregnant
- The marriage is legally non-risky
Then it is a fair deal. Otherwise the only reasonable tactic is child support.

Men signing up for an alimony contract is beyond me. Other men get the milk for free, but if you stop getting your milk then you have to pay for it? Who the fuck would sign up for that? Are people batshit insane? If you cannot secure a legally certain, alimony free marriage contract, then you should not marry. Her getting half the assets is reasonably fair if she was genuinely fulfilling her role as a traditional wife.

[StrikeBack]

I think you guys have displayed more desire to have a family and children in this thread than most Western women in their prime fertile years.

[Phoenix]

Most likely. It seems that a womans prime fertile years are for education, career, and contraceptive 'fun' in the West. Nearing her 30s is then for 'give me commitment & babies now!'. Very bad tactic.

Perhaps there should be a complementary forum for women's self-improvement.

[OnlyMarryInTajikistan]

The OP is talking about forming a family with a Western woman.

That is, by definition, insanity.