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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-22-2013, 09:41 AM
Yes, what he did was wrong and should be punished, but life in prison and 250,000 dollar fine? I can take a crowbar, go up to a random member of this forum, assault them with the weapon until they're crippled and need urgent medical attention and get off with a much less severe punishment.
Ridiculous. Women = gold, Men = festering shit left out in the sun.
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-22-2013, 09:46 AM
He is an omega idiot that should spend some time in jail to cool off, but... you can get life in prison for this? WTF?!? It's like we live in the middle ages...
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-22-2013, 09:52 AM
How do you guys think this would go if it was a gay dude molesting a sleeping male?
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-22-2013, 11:46 AM
"Life for feeling up a person? He should have killed her- he'd be out in 10 years. What's wrong with our laws?"
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-22-2013, 01:52 PM
I’m rethinking this question of whether sentences are too strict on sexual abuse.
When I’ve visited places in the US and abroad with low levels of sex crimes, the women were much easier to meet and progress with, and the interactions were way more comfortable and enjoyable. I recommend seeking these kinds of places out in your local areas.
There was at least one eyewitness to Aksal’s crime in a setting with lots of people, so we can be sure he’s guilty. Aside from what he’s done to the woman, the bigger picture is that he’s a disgrace to men everywhere and is cockblocking the rest of us by making women more defensive than a feminist ever could.
Life in prison and a $250,000 fine sounds good to me.
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-23-2013, 04:55 AM
That's assuming criminals are thinking rationally.
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-23-2013, 05:41 AM
I also don't think criminals usually think rationally about the consequences. However, the issue here is not about motivating criminals to be less criminal. It's about the aspects of making the society safe and punishing the offender to learn his lesson. This guy that groped the woman on the plane is pretty gross, but:
A) Does he present such a terrible threat to society that he should have to be locked up forever for the sake of other people? Probably not. Is it worth for the society to lose a member that could have lived the rest of his life without incidents, paid taxes and contributed to it? Also probably not.
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B) Is sending someone to prison forever proportional to the crime committed? Spending the rest of your life in a tiny cell is almost equal to being shot to death, from an eye-for-an-eye point of view. It's probably worse than getting severely beaten up and injured. But is it almost equal to being groped? I don't think so.
Conclusion: feminist hysteria about the "rape culture" is making the society overreact and do more harm than help with such severe punishments.
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-23-2013, 07:30 AM
He should of done it on a flight to Dubai. That way she would be the one getting sentenced.
In all seriousness I can't feel any pity for guys like this regardless of how draconian the punishment. You don't stick your hands in the pants of sleeping strangers unless you are a fucking weirdo and fucking weirdos need to be kept off the streets for the safety of us and our sisters, daughters and mums.
There are cases of men being arrested for bad game and clumsy approaches, but this is different, this is sexual assault on a sleeping woman he didn't know. I'd have no problem with people like that getting long sentences.
Edit: This is him. Say no more, it fucking had to be.
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-23-2013, 12:37 PM
The sisterhood will be screaming for blood, and being USA he will be having a stay on-the-inside for a while, unless he gets himself a super lawyer, hope he has deep pockets.
Best he claims he is a mental sicko, the judge might well be less harsh on him
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-23-2013, 02:08 PM
He won't get life or a $250,000 fine.
Federal Sentencing Guidelines will total up a number based on the offense, if he had a previous record, etc. Federal sentencing is pretty harsh, but it's not impossible he'll get probation. I would guess short stay in a minimum security FCU and then probation if he's got no record.
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-24-2013, 02:33 AM
^ I was thinking the same. He's definitely not doing life. I couldn't tell you how many times when I was younger and got into trouble the judge would say, "If I see you back in this court room, you're going to jail!" When I was back next mounts, slap on the hand.
Hell, even in federal court, I kept putting off my community service. I had it extended twice and the last time the judge said I'd be going to jail if I didn't complete the community service. I came back 4 months later, 8 hours short and the judge told me how proud of me he was. Moral of the story, max punishment is almost never used.
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New Jersey man convicted of sexually abusing sleeping woman on plane
07-24-2013, 06:00 AM
I think his life would be pretty fucked because of the record? unless he wants a shitty job no one wants or wants to work for himself?
Plus this online humiliation will haunt him rest of his lives. heck yeah, his daughter in law would find out easily just by googling him too.
I think those consequences are already enough.