[Cattle Rustler]

There's been some threads on where to find older women in the US and how to game them.

However, there have not many discussions on where to find them abroad.

So....what countries/cities are the best to find them?
Also, where would it be easy to game them?


Latin America
I've had good results in Mexico, although most say "you're too young"(currently 21). Mexico City is an area with 22 million people and eventually I hit something. Just hop on Badoo/OKC and start pipelining or hit coffee shops or shopping centers during the day. After establishing a social Circle in Puebla, I've been getting good results too. I just greet them, compliment them on their looks, ask them where they shop, and take it from there. Most are hesitant at first but after going for coffee or a wine bar, they cut to the bone. I've targeted women 11-25 years older than me; married, widowed, divorced; with and without children; all of them professionals. Rarely do I pay for my dates.

The rest of Latin America seems like good place too, I've emailed a couple of ladies from Costa Rica, Colombia, Argentina, and Brazil and got their replies. Most claim to being "a conservative woman and want friendship only", but they give me their phone numbers and start liking my FB pictures like bananas. A Colombian saved me a trip as she came to visit Texas.


FSU and Asia
Older women are hard to come by, they mostly want an older man because in their eyes being older is "more stable" and viewed as a better provider. Some have replied here and there, but not to the extent of 'murican and latin american women. The ones who reply are looking for adventure ( a good fuck), but their small numbers make a trip not worthy. Ages of some of the women I had luck with: 29, 36, 37, 40, 33. If I visit these areas, I'll finally start looking for young ladies my age .


Europe
Greener pastures in my case, or at least 3 years ago. A dutch women took me home from a bar in Amsterdam. She greeted me, invited me for a pint, as we got drunk she told me about how lonely she was, recently divorced. She invited me over for coffee at her place and bam! French MILF at a restaurant thought that my French was cute, my friend winged her friend while MILFy and I chatted. After a while she cut to the chase by saying "let's go to my place" and took me home. Vicious recommended a place in Sweden but can't remember the name.


Hopefully the older lady and younger guy thing gains traction in FSU because I would love me some Russian MILFs.

Someone should page Houston lol.

[Arado]

Milfs definitely lacking in Russia. Both because of cultural barriers to dating younger men, and the women age quickly here.

[The Fantasist]

The easiest place to bang older women is the exact same place where it's easy to bang young women. Social and dating dynamics apply throughout the age groups.

I can take you out in my town in the UK and introduce you to a lot of older women who want to bang, my local is full of these types. Nobody here pays them any attention because it is just as easy to bang a 20-something.

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-18-2013 11:57 AM)ao85 Wrote:  

Milfs definitely lacking in Russia. Both because of cultural barriers to dating younger men, and the women age quickly here.

You're definitely right. There might be some milfs here and there, but the milf/cougar culture is lacking. They should westernize in this trait, only this trait though. Ukraine is a little better in this, quality of life seems better. I heard there are better milfs in poland.

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-18-2013 12:08 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

The easiest place to bang older women is the exact same place where it's easy to bang young women. Social and dating dynamics apply throughout the age groups.

I can take you out in my town in the UK and introduce you to a lot of older women who want to bang, my local is full of these types. Nobody here pays them any attention because it is just as easy to bang a 20-something.

You should get a Nobel prize for cracking the problem in a nutshell. Simple lesson of supply and demand. Maybe I'll take a trip to the UK and have some fun.

But what about places where cougar culture/mentality is not prevalent? Russia/FSU has plenty of 20-somethings getting attention but the lonely 30-somethings won't put out. Something tells me pinays/thais will put out.

[haywire]

I don't see why one would need to travel abroad to bang older women. America is full of them, and they are much easier than younger ones. Yes, there are certain kinds of younger women whose level of beauty is pretty much out of the reach for the regular dude and it does make sense to travel abroad for them, but older women are pretty much the same everywhere. Even the younger hotties in America turn up to be easy desperate cougars after a certain age.

[UrbanNerd]

Women age 25-35 are the EASIEST to bang, especially if you have some decent income and decent career with you. That is beta-provider all day (the only times I even use the dreaded "beta" or "alpha" terms).

Sucker the chicks in so they think they have that "marriage material" man and catch amnesia after the bang(s).

As for internationally, I turn away chicks over 25 in places like Dominican Republic because the 25-35 chicks hit me on Badoo all damn day.

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-19-2013 04:57 PM)haywire Wrote:  

I don't see why one would need to travel abroad to bang older women. America is full of them, and they are much easier than younger ones. Yes, there are certain kinds of younger women whose level of beauty is pretty much out of the reach for the regular dude and it does make sense to travel abroad for them, but older women are pretty much the same everywhere. Even the younger hotties in America turn up to be easy desperate cougars after a certain age.

American women are exactly that, American. Most guys on here travel abroad because they are tired of typical American female attitude. You got a point though, the US is packed with open-minded milfs and they are easy to game. Even a caveman can do it. You're convincing me to stay in 'murica.

Compare an American cougar to a Brazilian or Colombian and we all know who wins hands down. It ain't the American one.

[haywire]

Don't mean to shit on you but if a cougar is giving you that "typical American female attitude" then you really need to work on your game

Cougars have mellowed down substantially. They feel lucky just to get some attention from a guy, and that from a younger one literally takes them on cloud nine. They'd even buy you shit if you play the game right(it has been discussed in-depth on the forum).

So, unless you have a defined preference for cougars over younger women, you shouldn't plan traveling abroad for game.

[Brodiaga]

(07-19-2013 04:27 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 12:08 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

The easiest place to bang older women is the exact same place where it's easy to bang young women. Social and dating dynamics apply throughout the age groups.

I can take you out in my town in the UK and introduce you to a lot of older women who want to bang, my local is full of these types. Nobody here pays them any attention because it is just as easy to bang a 20-something.

You should get a Nobel prize for cracking the problem in a nutshell. Simple lesson of supply and demand. Maybe I'll take a trip to the UK and have some fun.

But what about places where cougar culture/mentality is not prevalent? Russia/FSU has plenty of 20-somethings getting attention but the lonely 30-somethings won't put out. Something tells me pinays/thais will put out.

My experience - for both 20+ and 30+

Thailand is easier than Russia; Russia is easier than England or US.
Haven't been to the Philippines, but the word on the street is that it's easier than Thailand))

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-19-2013 05:51 PM)haywire Wrote:  

Don't mean to shit on you but if a cougar is giving you that "typical American female attitude" then you really need to work on your game

Cougars have mellowed down substantially. They feel lucky just to get some attention from a guy, and that from a younger one literally takes them on cloud nine. They'd even buy you shit if you play the game right(it has been discussed in-depth on the forum).

So, unless you have a defined preference for cougars over younger women, you shouldn't plan traveling abroad for game.

No offense taken, I know I need to work on my game. Most of the time is "You're too young" "I like older men" but there are freaky milfs out there across all races.

You're right about feeling lucky, they usually say "why do you want me when you can get a girl your age (21)?" or "I never though you would talk to me". When they start buying you stuff, that's the jackpot. I've been through that before, milking the cow.

My preference is for cougars, I don't see anything especial about girls my age but am getting interesting in freshmen girls around campus.

[Kabal]

(07-19-2013 04:58 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Women age 25-35 are the EASIEST to bang, especially if you have some decent income and decent career with you. That is beta-provider all day (the only times I even use the dreaded "beta" or "alpha" terms).

Sucker the chicks in so they think they have that "marriage material" man and catch amnesia after the bang(s).

As for internationally, I turn away chicks over 25 in places like Dominican Republic because the 25-35 chicks hit me on Badoo all damn day.

This should be their national motto:

Dominican Republic: where the MILFs are younger than you.

[Cattle Rustler]

Apparently there's a shortage of guys for silicon valley cougars, they're not social enough for their tastes. They got tech money and are lonely. We all know where this is going...
Vanity Fair article on Silicon Valley cougars

Also, there's good reviews on the Clift hotel bar for those interesting in Silicon Valley.

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-19-2013 04:58 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Women age 25-35 are the EASIEST to bang, especially if you have some decent income and decent career with you. That is beta-provider all day (the only times I even use the dreaded "beta" or "alpha" terms).

Sucker the chicks in so they think they have that "marriage material" man and catch amnesia after the bang(s).

As for internationally, I turn away chicks over 25 in places like Dominican Republic because the 25-35 chicks hit me on Badoo all damn day.

The idea of selling them the dream is pretty clever. Once they are hooked, it's hard for them to let go.

I'm 21 and just out of college, so about the income and career......yeah, lol.

[Brosemite]

(07-19-2013 05:24 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

American women are exactly that, American. Most guys on here travel abroad because they are tired of typical American female attitude. You got a point though, the US is packed with open-minded milfs and they are easy to game. Even a caveman can do it. You're convincing me to stay in 'murica.

Compare an American cougar to a Brazilian or Colombian and we all know who wins hands down. It ain't the American one.

You don't have to have your own place to game them too..true story.., haha.

[Brosemite]

(07-19-2013 07:01 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 04:58 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Women age 25-35 are the EASIEST to bang, especially if you have some decent income and decent career with you. That is beta-provider all day (the only times I even use the dreaded "beta" or "alpha" terms).

Sucker the chicks in so they think they have that "marriage material" man and catch amnesia after the bang(s).

As for internationally, I turn away chicks over 25 in places like Dominican Republic because the 25-35 chicks hit me on Badoo all damn day.

This should be their national motto:

Dominican Republic: where the MILFs are younger than you.

I've never been to the DR, but these are examples of MILFS I've worked with from there in home & textiles industry. If I were to go to Santo Domingo though...where can I find these types?

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-19-2013 07:26 PM)yb13 Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 05:24 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

American women are exactly that, American. Most guys on here travel abroad because they are tired of typical American female attitude. You got a point though, the US is packed with open-minded milfs and they are easy to game. Even a caveman can do it. You're convincing me to stay in 'murica.

Compare an American cougar to a Brazilian or Colombian and we all know who wins hands down. It ain't the American one.

You don't have to have your own place to game them too..true story.., haha.

Hahaha, that's right. You can game them at their place or they can pay for the hotel. What's your story? Those milfs...it's dinner time.

[Brosemite]

(07-19-2013 07:31 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 07:26 PM)yb13 Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 05:24 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

American women are exactly that, American. Most guys on here travel abroad because they are tired of typical American female attitude. You got a point though, the US is packed with open-minded milfs and they are easy to game. Even a caveman can do it. You're convincing me to stay in 'murica.

Compare an American cougar to a Brazilian or Colombian and we all know who wins hands down. It ain't the American one.

You don't have to have your own place to game them too..true story.., haha.

Hahaha, that's right. You can game them at their place or they can pay for the hotel. What's your story? Those milfs...it's dinner time.

Makeouts primarily but did close with 2 in the past. The first one actually was a bit more traumatizing because her car was towed. I had to help her fetch it at a lot near 1-30 and Beckley as she welcomed me back to her place as a sign of gratitude near Downtown, haha. I had it in the bag without the car issue though because she decided to sit on my lap at the bar.

There was also another one which wasn't a ONS, but more of a on and off date type thing. Those times though, she always suggested drinks or dinner near wherever her apt was in diff neighborhoods. I think it's usually a case of these milfs picking a venue near where they live, which helps.

For the younger ones in their 20s/30s with kids, chances are they're likely going to be in the suburbs for the better school districts so it's more advantageous to have your own place in a "trendy" area to have them over, which I never possessed. Most of the cougars are going to be in bar areas of Southlake restaurants, perhaps Lewisville ones, Latin restaurants in say Oak Lawn, Lakewood (underrated IMO at least for potential), and occasionally Uptown with regards to Dallas/Ft. Worth area. A few times I've gotten numbers with no replies, but quite a few also might have some serious cockblocking friends that'll ruin the festivities with a threat of violence too.

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-19-2013 07:49 PM)yb13 Wrote:  

Makeouts primarily but did close with 2 in the past. The first one actually was a bit more traumatizing because her car was towed. I had to help her fetch it at a lot near 1-30 and Beckley as she welcomed me back to her place as a sign of gratitude near Downtown, haha. I had it in the bag without the car issue though because she decided to sit on my lap at the bar.

There was also another one which wasn't a ONS, but more of a on and off date type thing. Those times though, she always suggested drinks or dinner near wherever her apt was in diff neighborhoods. I think it's usually a case of these milfs picking a venue near where they live, which helps.

For the younger ones in their 20s/30s with kids, chances are they're likely going to be in the suburbs for the better school districts so it's more advantageous to have your own place in a "trendy" area to have them over, which I never possessed. Most of the cougars are going to be in bar areas of Southlake restaurants, perhaps Lewisville ones, Latin restaurants in say Oak Lawn, Lakewood (underrated IMO at least for potential), and occasionally Uptown. A few times I've gotten numbers with no replies, but some of them also might have some serious cockblocking friends that'll ruin the festivities with a threat of violence too.

Oh shit, you're a local! You got lucky with your milfs, mine were the "far as fck from my house kind" mentality. Great stories man, and yes....Lakewood is a goldmine that no one knows about. Soccer moms, residential area, and it's close to everything. Dallas cockblockers sometimes go psycho.

One milf - I was 18, she was 36. We talked on "univision chat" (now discontinued) and she gave me her number when she email me her pic from her phone. Started talking, wanted to meet. Since her in laws live in front of her, I parked my car at Walmart and I laid down in her car's backseat while she drove back home. She wanted a hotel but I wanted to stay at her house. Spent the night, got into a mini relationship. Her hubby was in her home country at the time.

Another milf - Met her on Badoo, lives in unpleasant grove, didn't want us to be seen so she came to Addison. Went for drinks, made out, took her to my place, and sealed the deal. Didn't talk to her again.

Another milf - I tried to game a friend I just reconnected with, found out her and her sister were lesbians....so I gamed their mom. Added her on twitter, talked for a bit, gave me her #, and when her daughters were at the club she invited me over. Fucked for a few weeks, her daughter got pissed and blocked me on FB, her mom stopped talking to me. No fucks given.

[Brosemite]

(07-19-2013 08:05 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 07:49 PM)yb13 Wrote:  

Makeouts primarily but did close with 2 in the past. The first one actually was a bit more traumatizing because her car was towed. I had to help her fetch it at a lot near 1-30 and Beckley as she welcomed me back to her place as a sign of gratitude near Downtown, haha. I had it in the bag without the car issue though because she decided to sit on my lap at the bar.

There was also another one which wasn't a ONS, but more of a on and off date type thing. Those times though, she always suggested drinks or dinner near wherever her apt was in diff neighborhoods. I think it's usually a case of these milfs picking a venue near where they live, which helps.

For the younger ones in their 20s/30s with kids, chances are they're likely going to be in the suburbs for the better school districts so it's more advantageous to have your own place in a "trendy" area to have them over, which I never possessed. Most of the cougars are going to be in bar areas of Southlake restaurants, perhaps Lewisville ones, Latin restaurants in say Oak Lawn, Lakewood (underrated IMO at least for potential), and occasionally Uptown. A few times I've gotten numbers with no replies, but some of them also might have some serious cockblocking friends that'll ruin the festivities with a threat of violence too.

Oh shit, you're a local! You got lucky with your milfs, mine were the "far as fck from my house kind" mentality. Great stories man, and yes....Lakewood is a goldmine that no one knows about. Soccer moms, residential area, and it's close to everything. Dallas cockblockers sometimes go psycho.

One milf - I was 18, she was 36. We talked on "univision chat" (now discontinued) and she gave me her number when she email me her pic from her phone. Started talking, wanted to meet. Since her in laws live in front of her, I parked my car at Walmart and I laid down in her car's backseat while she drove back home. She wanted a hotel but I wanted to stay at her house. Spent the night, got into a mini relationship. Her hubby was in her home country at the time.

Another milf - Met her on Badoo, lives in unpleasant grove, didn't want us to be seen so she came to Addison. Went for drinks, made out, took her to my place, and sealed the deal. Didn't talk to her again.

Another milf - I tried to game a friend I just reconnected with, found out her and her sister were lesbians....so I gamed their mom. Added her on twitter, talked for a bit, gave me her #, and when her daughters were at the club she invited me over. Fucked for a few weeks, her daughter got pissed and blocked me on FB, her mom stopped talking to me. No fucks given.

Sounds hilarious homie, haha. Yeah let me shoot you a PM. We'll have to grab a drink sometime.

[username]

So in the United States, what is best site for connecting with these MILFs and 35+ ? What about day game? Before I heard that Whole Foods is pretty good.

[haywire]

(07-20-2013 03:06 AM)username Wrote:  

So in the United States, what is best site for connecting with these MILFs and 35+ ? What about day game? Before I heard that Whole Foods is pretty good.

POF, OKC work just fine.

Yeah, daygaming would work too, but I personally don't do it anymore - don't want to be seen around an older women in public!

These older babes are just dying for attention.

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-20-2013 03:06 AM)username Wrote:  

So in the United States, what is best site for connecting with these MILFs and 35+ ? What about day game? Before I heard that Whole Foods is pretty good.

Depends on what you're looking for.

• East/West Coast women are more open that southern women.
• Places where there are more women than men.
• NYC, Miami, SF. It's just the law of big numbers. Throw stuff at the wall and something will stick.
• Caucasian women are the ones most open to it.
• For Latinas head to Texas, Asians to Cali and Blacks to the south (NoLa?).
• Whole Foods, Jazz Clubs, Museums. Any place that is too expensive for students or girls in their 20s.
• Google "Cougar den + (your city)". There are sites that list the best spots
  

In SF there's the Clift Bar, place with cougars loaded wish cash. Read the above article by Vanity Fair.
Here's one: http://cougarbars.com/