[docsedated]

Need advice from Gurus......... help an aspiring player ......

My current style is going Indirect in the begining and then later reveal [b]Intent which is where I am having problem.

At what point in converstion that you break the comfort and tell her that you are interested in her romatically/sexually ( and to what degree you show your interest ), If I keep on talking the non-direct stuff wouldn't she be confused or think that I am merely making a conversation/small talk.

Part of me says, skip the BS and go Direct and when I do that I am Kissing on 1st or 2nd meet but then it becomes hard me to stop my own Emotional roller coster and I think I come of as too sexual or needy and end up losing the girl

My big question is how to balance between going Indirect or Direct

I Personally like Indirect , would greatly appreciate examples of transitioning from fluff talk/BS to showing Intent in a cool confident way.

[speakeasy]

(08-29-2010 04:26 PM)docsedated Wrote:  

I Personally like Indirect , would greatly appreciate examples of transitioning from fluff talk/BS to showing Intent in a cool confident way.

I have a lot of problems here too. I've never been a direct game kinda dude. I'm sure that comes from my background of growing up shy as a teen. I tend to early on get engaged in a lot of chit chatty small talk(my natural style is what Roosh coined "cool guy game") and have a tough time transitioning to kino-escalation. That's the danger of the cool guy game thing. She just might think you're an interesting guy to talk to, assuming she vibes with what you're saying, and maybe that's it. There's no guarantee that you'll spark any attraction using that. If that kind of chit chatty cool guy game lingers on too long, you'll get shelved into the "cool guy friend" category, not potential lover. You have to pivot into something more more emotionally engaging and personal and get the kino going or you'll lose her.

[kerouac]

Kino!

[kerouac]

Ok, I read this over, and I think just saying "Kino!" wasn't quite helpful, although Kino is something you should all strive to get comfortable with...

I think you have to adjust to every situation... For instance, on my last date, I sensed the girl wasn't too comfortable at first, so I wasn't too touchy feely with her. Instead I pushed the personality and humor and by the end of it she was making it extremely clear she was ready for some touchy feely stuff

Keeping cool and adjusting to each situation is the key, really, but sometimes you might get nervous. This is why I think it's essential to develop a sort of routine... routine as in take a girl to places you are familiar with, and bring her into your world. If you're out exploring a place for the first time with a girl you're unfamiliar with, you might get too caught up in everything around you and forget about the girl. Instead, find a few places you know pretty well, and take her there, that way you can notice the small things in her behavior that you should be responding to, rather than giving yourself sensory overload.

[BaronStanley]

It is not necessary to ever verbally escalate. Kino escalation is enough... also eye contact is important.

Stare into her eyes like u want her, start talking slower and get closer too her while you simultaneousness talk about "fluff talk" as you call it. The nonverbal communication will show your intent and build sexual tension even though the words you are saying are nonsexual.