[presidentcarter]

"Women who suffer violence from their partners are 1.5 times more likely to get syphilis, Chlamydia, or gonorrhea."...

http://news.yahoo.com/violence-against-w...47841.html

[lurker]

(06-20-2013 10:12 AM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

"Women who suffer violence from their partners are 1.5 times more likely to get syphilis, Chlamydia, or gonorrhea."...

I would wager the correlation between DV and STDs is entirely true. They're both correlated to other risk factors and more prevalent in lower-IQ, lower- future-time orientation, and lower-SES communities.

[Ryre]

Only 1 in 3 women is a victim of violence in her lifetime? I bet the percentage of men who have been victims of violence at some point in their lives is close to 100%.

[LooTa]

Oh so it's one in 3 now? I give it 3 months until they start saying 1 in 2.

And as the law of diminishing returns shows itself and nobody is "shocked and outraged" anymore, from there it's not a big jump to saying "all women will be raped and murdered at least once in their lives."

[LeBeau]

(06-20-2013 11:20 PM)LooTa Wrote:  

Oh so it's one in 3 now? I give it 3 months until they start saying 1 in 2.

And as the law of diminishing returns shows itself and nobody is "shocked and outraged" anymore, from there it's not a big jump to saying "all women will be raped and murdered at least once in their lives."

This.

I remember thinking that when the 1 Billion Rising campaign/day was picking up speed, there couldn't be any possible way to quantify that number. It had to have been chosen based on very selective data estimates, but more likely it was chosen for the shock/awareness quality of being able to say 1 Billion.

If I could make one course mandatory for Women's Studies (or hell, any Humanities/Social Studies majors) it would be Research Methods.

It always astounds me how people with phd's can do such faulty experiments or come to conclusions from such vague or unreliable information.

The cynic in me says that the reason for that is that many of these studies/findings aren't aimed at getting closer to the truth in the first place, but rather confirming bias or re-affirming devotion to PC ideals.

Family Guy called this years ago (graphics bit messed up at beginning but it improves):

Or maybe, on the other hand, we should listen to those who say these kind of jokes in Family Guy actually contribute to "rape culture"...surely it's the satirical cartoon's fault!

http://ideas.time.com/2013/03/19/viewpoi...eneration/

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Of course, it’s not fair to link fictional characters and real-life violence. But if you can laugh at rape on TV, why wouldn’t the real thing be funny if you’re young and drunk and if the developmental maturity to control your impulses is years away?

Nope...I must have it wrong again. It's not the rape jokes that are the problem, the issue is that male and female comedians aren't clearing these jokes with feminists first. If only people were instructed on what is funny, then rape jokes would be acceptable:

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Addendum: For those who wonder what a successful rape joke might look like, that topic has been explored here, with a special shout-out to Wanda Sykes.

[A War You Cannot Win]

Remember, the easiest way to discover the truth is to invent it.

[Vitriol]

Quote:

The brutal gang rape in December of a 23-year-old woman on a bus in New Delhi sparked a global outcry and unprecedented protests in India demanding better policing of sex crimes. The woman later died from her injuries.

"These kinds of cases raise awareness, which is important, and at the same time we must remember there are hundreds of women every day who are being raped on the streets and in their homes, but that doesn't make the headlines," Garcia-Moreno said.

One woman in a third world country gets gang-fucked, so it's imperative that Americunts can sip their Starbucks latte ever more comfortably in their SUVs while they run people over because they were too busy text messaging. Sounds like a legit concern.

[Architekt]

(06-20-2013 11:06 PM)Ryre Wrote:  

Only 1 in 3 women is a victim of violence in her lifetime? I bet the percentage of men who have been victims of violence at some point in their lives is close to 100%.

My thoughts exactly when I saw the title..

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These kinds of cases raise awareness, which is important, and at the same time we must remember there are hundreds of women every day who are
being raped on the streets and in their homes, but that doesn't make the headlines,

Let's play with some figures....

100s of women every day? Let's call it an even 1000, and assume we have a global population of somewhere around 7 billion, and about half of those are women

100 * (1000 / 3500000000) = 2.857 * 10^(-5)% of women are raped every day. That means over the course of about 1 million days, approximately 28.5% of the women in our current population will have been raped. Seems reasonable, right? Thats almost 1 in 3..... Maybe not..... A million days is about 2,700 years. Either I've compeltely forgotten how numbers work, or that is a lot less than 1 in 3 women in our life time that would have been victims of rape.

Even taking that number up to 100,000 individual cases of rape, every single day, and assuming that none of these women are victims of multiple rapes, thats still 28 years for a quarter of the population. In that time, it is well to remember that the population is constantly changing. Some info taken from ecology.com:

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Four births each second of every day
Nearly two people die each second

This is going to botch the figures even more, since in that 28 years, many of those rape victims will have died (average life expectancy is apparently 67 years, so about 1/3 of those), and many un raped women will be born, lowering that number even further. If you're going to throw stats at us, at least make them fucking believable.

[Prosal]

Violence towards women is anything but funny. I guess that noone here would like to know that his sister, mom, ect has been sexually abused or suffers from sexual harassment or domestic violence.

(06-21-2013 01:38 AM)Architekt Wrote:  

If you're going to throw stats at us, at least make them fucking believable.

About the numbers, there is also nothing to laugh about. As an exemple the Russian Interior Ministry estimates (seconded by WHO, Amnesty International and ONGs) that a total of 14,000 women die annually from domestic violence in Russia, which makes about one every 40 minutes.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-new...n-the-rise

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21474931

And Russia doesn't even have the highest rate of violence towards women in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map3.1...ressed.jpg

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Violence against women is a serious problem and I despise rapists and domestic abusers.

However, the tremendous exxageration of the problem, the war on innocent people who would never harm a fly (think Betaish husbands forced to go to anger management therapy) and the fact that women first select these abusers out of hundreds of better men and then stay with them for years, ruins my capacity to care.

I have very little sympathy for it in general.

[2Wycked]

@Prosal: Statistics have long been manipulated by feminists about domestic violence.

I don't think anybody here thinks real violence against women is funny.

You cite Amnesty International. They are thoroughly liberal and sympathetic to feminists. They host feminist conferences every year.

Lenore Walker falsified data on domestic violence in America & ignored male victims. She spearheaded current approaches to DV in America.

Further, talking about violence against women means nothing if you don't talk about sociopathy, anti-social personality disorder & poverty. The problem about dialogues about violence against women is it is narcissistic navel-gazing.

Instead of talking about the multiplicity of forces that lead to spousal abuse, they hyper-focus on the immutable trait of sex.

[Prosal]

(06-21-2013 02:55 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

and the fact that women first select these abusers out of hundreds of better men and then stay with them for years

On that I agree of course. Admittedly, many of the women who choose or stay with violent husbands, BFs, lovers, ect only have themselves to blame (at least in "first world" countries).

[soup]

I'd bet that 1000/100 girls desire to be dominated.

[Akula]

(06-21-2013 03:02 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

@Prosal: Statistics have long been manipulated by feminists about domestic violence.

I don't think anybody here thinks real violence against women is funny.

You cite Amnesty International. They are thoroughly liberal and sympathetic to feminists. They host feminist conferences every year.

Lenore Walker falsified data on domestic violence in America & ignored male victims. She spearheaded current approaches to DV in America.

Further, talking about violence against women means nothing if you don't talk about sociopathy, anti-social personality disorder & poverty. The problem about dialogues about violence against women is it is narcissistic navel-gazing.

Instead of talking about the multiplicity of forces that lead to spousal abuse, they hyper-focus on the immutable trait of sex.

Lost is all this is the tremendous amount of emtional and psychological violence that women subject men to every single day. We've all seen Beta guys who are dominated by their wives, or are afraid to do or say anything due to the ridiculous rules that have been imposed on them by modern feminist society. (I had to 'unlearn' a lot of these once I left the US, as I'm sure eveyrone else did). And how many married men are literally trapped in loveless/sexless marriages bc they are afraid to separate due to the incredibly one-sided divorce laws that favor womene in most of the western countries? I know countless numbers of guys who are literally in sexless, loveless marriages but continue to bust their @ss working to support the kids and wife (who have no clue how good they have it). And if they sleep around on the side bc their wives don't fufill the marital sex obligation? Well then they stand to lose everything and society makes them look like the bad guy.

Society also effectively gives women these days myriad ways to belittle men and henpick them to death on a variety of issues in the workplace and in the home. IMO emotional/psychological violence can be just as bad as physical and takes its toll. The bad spot men are in these days in the West re marriage and families is many times a recipe for female psychological abuse toward the man that sometimes can end up in physical violence.

Rant over but I can't belive this kind of hyperbole and one-sided media garbage continues to be spewed by the international press.

[soup]

(06-21-2013 04:06 AM)Akula Wrote:  

(06-21-2013 03:02 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

@Prosal: Statistics have long been manipulated by feminists about domestic violence.

I don't think anybody here thinks real violence against women is funny.

You cite Amnesty International. They are thoroughly liberal and sympathetic to feminists. They host feminist conferences every year.

Lenore Walker falsified data on domestic violence in America & ignored male victims. She spearheaded current approaches to DV in America.

Further, talking about violence against women means nothing if you don't talk about sociopathy, anti-social personality disorder & poverty. The problem about dialogues about violence against women is it is narcissistic navel-gazing.

Instead of talking about the multiplicity of forces that lead to spousal abuse, they hyper-focus on the immutable trait of sex.

Lost is all this is the tremendous amount of emtional and psychological violence that women subject men to every single day. We've all seen Beta guys who are dominated by their wives, or are afraid to do or say anything due to the ridiculous rules that have been imposed on them by modern feminist society. (I had to 'unlearn' a lot of these once I left the US, as I'm sure eveyrone else did). And how many married men are literally trapped in loveless/sexless marriages bc they are afraid to separate due to the incredibly one-sided divorce laws that favor womene in most of the western countries.

Society also effectively gives women these days myriad ways to belittle men and henpick them to death on a variety of issues in the workplace and in the home.

IMO emotional/psychological violence can be just as bad as physical and takes its toll.

Rant over but I can't belive this kind of hyperbole and one-sided media garbage continues to be spewed by the international press.

The fallacy of your thinking is that men are dominated by wives in any way.

This will never be true.

The guy that let's his wife act up in public is into S&M.

Respect his gay fetish.

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