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A Hypothesis Of Youthful Lesbianism As Attention-Whoring
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A Hypothesis Of Youthful Lesbianism As Attention-Whoring

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I have known a handful of women who were straight, suddenly went full on gay, then came back in their mid-20's - their homosexual dalliances seemingly gone. Also, I know women who were physically abused by their boyfriends, but as they aged, those types of dudes were no longer attractive to them.

Why does this happen? What causes women to endure relationships they could otherwise easily abandon?

Check out this post about domestic violence by TLP

While the post is his usual brilliance, this quote is critical

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The thing is, BPD "works" when you are young, there are always people around to tolerate it. Parents, boyfriend/girlfriend, employers, etc-- and being pretty, which Trunk obviously is, helps a lot. This doesn't mean people are necessarily nice to her, or that she's happy; only that "crazy" behavior is more tolerable to other people when you are young.

Let's step through lesbianism first before breaking down domestic violence.

Review Of Youthful Lesbianism

A quick Google search revealed this Tumblr where self-selecting lesbians toss up pictures of their girlfriend and a brief description of their relationship.

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Let's break this down through this relationship. The girl on the right seems to be cute - longer hair, cute face & smile. She doesn't look like a stereotypical lesbian. Sure, stereotypes are stereotypes but if certain hypotheses on homosexuality are true, then the vast majority of lesbians received male hormones in the womb that caused them to invert their sexuality.

Anyway, let's talk about this relationship. Notice many of the relationships started out as "friendships." However, this particular relationship did start out as a friendship, with two women doing what women do to bond - the divulging of secrets and personal details. It grew into a light petting, kissing and, apparently, sex. Sounds a lot like how women escalate with a beta, right?

My thoughts here are fairly scrambled, so let me set it out. Lesbianism is the female manifestation of betahood. Sure, you get some women, like Camille Paglia, who display levels of indifference, confidence & independence. Women like that are usually reviled in lesbian circle for two reasons. The first one is that women are collective - women that buck the group are never liked. However, that is what a man usually has to do to be attractive to women - you have to be your own man.

The second - and this is purely speculative - those women arise all sorts of sexual feelings that straight women get with alphas. Since lesbians don't get those sorts of tingles, they resent the implication those women represent. Do note women take their social hierarchies seriously and women at the top - in gay circles - will always be attractive. Women like Hillary Clinton will also be attractive because of political/social power.

However, that is superficial & initial attraction. Once a gay female realizes that the said woman, like Hillary, doesn't have the solid inner frame of an alpha, the relationships declines into "lesbian bed death."

Circling back to the aforementioned relationship, notice the brevity of the statement. Twitter & Tumblr don't emphasize depth of thought, but superficiality of thought. I know I am beating the drum constantly, but it is a reflection of our narcissistic society. I won't belabor the point further.

Notice the fact this is self-selecting - lesbians chose to post their photos & stories. They are seeking validation for their relationship. Note how all mention the length. While it means little without context, I feel by mentioning the length, they are suggesting its legitimacy in a temporal sense. The most seemingly confident descriptions usually claim to have been together for over a year.

The final nail is that fact they are ALL in their youth. Often, they seem to be in high school or college. This is why this is tolerated. Society, parents, etc. will tolerate this sort of experimentation for females. Not for males, but for women. One main reason is they are fucking other women - no risk for pregnancy. Also, they just don't hook up - they usually form relationships. Which fits in social expectations.

These relationships are not stable and will end within a year or two. It is true that lesbian engage in serial monogamy over the course of their lives. Not hamstrung by male valuation of youth & beauty, they can hook up at 40 or 50 with relative ease.

All this youthful lesbianism is just attention-whoring. As we shall see when I step through domestic violence, it is all about getting attention - from parents, authority figures & society. A few mention how their love is "forbidden." I would bet some women are doing to defiantly spit in alpha's faces.

Review Of Domestic Violence

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Most rhetoric surrounding domestic violence is supreme bullshit. It ignores males victims, female perpetrators & is usually wrong on the prevalence of DV. However, let's focus on why women chose abusive relationships.

This is a horribly contentious point, but as TLP points out, women chose these relationships for one tried & true reason - the fear of abandonment. However, that is only one aspect, the other is showing off their abuse in order to gain sympathy - a kind way of describing attention whoring.

Let's talk about fear of abandonment. It is rooted in childhood and relates to the desire for intense feeling. TLP brings up the example of a father who beats his daughter, then showers her with gifts and accolades - until the violence comes around again. That sort of emotional high is addictive to a human - especially a female.

As an adult, she will act out these relationships. In her youth, when society approves of dating around, she will go around the block endlessly with abusive and cruel men. She will attention whore endlessly, starting petty bullshit with other females and her man. She will pit man against man for the high of male competition for her.

She will often be very feminine looking and physically attractive. Be warned, it is a smokescreen. BPD types need to suck you into their personal Hell & use you act out failed relationships with their father. They will want you to physically harm them. They will sometimes call the cops to act failed interventions by authority figures in her youth. If she sense the authority figures will solve the issue (convict you, ruin your life & toss you in jail) she will back off immediately because that would be abandonment.

TLP stresses that is the greatest fear of this sort of woman and you absolutely foolish to suggest that she leave. When feminists agonize endlessly over why women stay, they aren't worried about helping abused or raped women, they just need a public forum that will praise them for their stance. Notice TLP points out EVERYBODY knows domestic violence is wrong, just like EVERYBODY knows rape is wrong. When feminists make up mindless bullshit such as society condoning DV/rape they are just attention whoring, using women who are wronged by men as a way of getting narcissistic approval.

Let's sum this up, as I have to bounce really soon. When women are abused, it is about them. They want the relationship. They need the intense emotions & the rush of physical violation. Also, they crave the attention.

TLP's example is of Penelope Trunk, a woman whose blog you may have heard of. On her blog, she posted this picture:

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THIS is attention whoring. She posts photos of her shapely legs & an injury on her hip. The most important point of the photo is her showing off her attractive legs, the injury second. Goodness, she is even nude! You can see her butt!

She needs the validation of her sexual attractiveness from her readers. She needs the comments to reflect that she is in a bad relationship. When somebody comments "she needs to leave" that person is actually encourages her to stay in the relationship because of the attention. Remember, any attention is good attention. Indifference is the killer.

She is a grown woman - she knows abuse is wrong. Telling her that abuse is wrong is just a way of signaling to everybody that you are on "the right side" - even though everybody is on the same side. Even abusers know their actions wrong - that is why you get honeymoon period of positive attention.

Note this behavior won't be tolerated once she is no longer physically attractive or youthful. Once society becomes indifferent to her life, she will either become a cat lady or seek a different type of male to feed off as - either he will be psychologically abusive or she could become a compensatory narcissist & dominate some beta - becoming the primary abuser.

Conclusion

In sum, youthful lesbianism & women who stay in abusive relationships are attention whores. They want this. They need the attention from authority figures & society. Youthful lesbians often hyper-focus on heterosexism because without it they would have no reason to eat their friend out. If society didn't care about homosexuality (true acceptance) the relationships would cease to exist. As for DV, women stick around for the attention, once that dries up they either have to change (rare) or find new ways to attention whore.

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Quote: (06-14-2013 04:44 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  

Circling back to the aforementioned relationship, notice the brevity of the statement. Twitter & Tumblr don't emphasize depth of thought, but superficiality of thought. I know I am beating the drum constantly, but it is a reflection of our narcissistic society. I won't belabor the point further.

Nahhh, you can keep going. [Image: smile.gif]

Once again another insightful post. I guess our society is just doomed. Everyone (no matter what they say) wants to feel good about themselves and attention whoring is one way to do it. But then you have to escalate to keep getting attention, to try and stand out.

On a different note, I'd be curious, if your taking requests, about how disposable everything has become in our society. Friends used to tell friends the tough things because they cared. Now if someone tells you something you don't like - you just defriend them (and hope they don't have you murdered http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/10...844.html). We consume so much as a society and waste a ton also (just think of the food).

And along the way to being so self-absorbed, we have become so thin skinned. Nothing can be allowed to damage our self image that we have of ourselves. I was once told this, "be grateful when people are giving you feedback, the day they stop is the day you should be worried because that means they no longer care."

I think America does the best job of raising damaged kids. Must be some big business secret plan. Have a bunch of damaged kids and tell them salvation is through consumption. And then market a whole shit load to them. How many dipshits buy the budweiser thinking they will be at a beach party but instead are home drinking alone and turning their penis orange because they were eating cheetos?

Once again thanks for the post.

Fate whispers to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the storm." And the warrior whispers back, "I am the storm."

Women and children can be careless, but not men - Don Corleone

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A Hypothesis Of Youthful Lesbianism As Attention-Whoring

Narcissism: The word I.

I liked the movie because I saw myself in such and such character.

Also:

Personally offended that the restaurant sticks by the "No substitutions please" policy. That's for the masses, not important people like her.

Watch TV with her. If she criticizes everyone on it who is more famous/wealthy/hot than her she might be a narcissist.

Super charming and fascinating at first but then they exhaust you. That applies more to guys.

Identifying with powerful/wealthy/famous people.
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A Hypothesis Of Youthful Lesbianism As Attention-Whoring

Right on the money !

99% of female behavior is attention whoring - even old women do it - think your nagging mother etc..... WHY ??

the reality is that in a state of nature, man who can be self sufficient and strong enough to deal with threats and hunt only needs a female for 2 things:

1. Sexual release/pleasure
2. Children

and the second - reproduction - is really more of a subconscious drive.

So, men don't really need females for anything else - and he can get those things thru seduction, abduction, rape, prostitution. masturbation, in a pinch - gay sex, and in modern times porn, etc....

The female on the other hand - until recently and only due to coercive socialism - need the man for EVERYTHING. hunt, protection, physical strength, emotional stability, etc....

So how does a creature who needs everything from another creature who only needs sex from her - keep the male in her orbit and thrall long enough to procure resources,protection, ???

Answer: ATTENTION WHORING (visual, verbal, phsychological, emotional, etc...)

its a survival strategy. For a female - in a state of nature, INDIFFERENCE = DEATH.

she must be able to have men psycoligicaly invest in her one way or the other - if not in a positive way, then negative will do ...
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A Hypothesis Of Youthful Lesbianism As Attention-Whoring

@2Wycked- I've often meditated many times on this very topic knowing that bad parenting and attention whoring are sometimes the causes for lesbianism but haven't really been able to compile my thoughts into a written draft. Nice work.
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Sir,tell me you've procured 2Wycked.com.

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A lot of "lesbians" are young girls who have no father figure around and get gamed by old more experienced lesbos at their first point of sexual exploration - high school - college.

they are simply confused, but later snap out of it when a little older.
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Been saying this for years about lesbians. If she doesn't look butch or like a truck driver then she's faking it to get what all women want, attention.
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If a guy can push a so-called lesbians buttons right, it's no different then any other girl. I have several friends who have had flings with self-proclaimed lesbians and today it's a great source of comedy for us.

I do believe alot of the younger lesbos grow out of it. You got pumped and dumped, get over it.
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Quote: (06-15-2013 12:21 AM)Clash1e Wrote:  

If she doesn't look butch or like a truck driver then she's faking it to get what all women want, attention.

Classic!

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Quote: (06-14-2013 07:28 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

It's gonna be a long month when you finally settle into BarBri and focus on writing things that will make you money.

As usual with your posts, my awareness has been raised, but how do I use these things to my advantage.

What are the quick and dirty tests/signs for detecting
- borderline personality disorders
- narcissism

And

Are you finding it possible to bed these chicks and bounce?

WIA

Sorry, I meant to come back to your comment. And, yes, it is a long month. Not as bad as I thought it would be, as it is simply establishing good studying habits.

Anyway, first let me preface that studying BPD & neuroses are my first priority after taking the bar in July. So, for now, I will not comment on that. Eventually, I will draw up a piece - probably one or two for the forum after I drop one on RoK.

As for narcissists, I can talk about that. But, first, let's talk about personality disorders in general.

Every personality disorder (PD) has strains of narcissism in it. Take me, I still have significant strains of paranoid PD in my psyche. The narcissism spills out intellectually sometimes like my Always Sunny post. The internal tension I felt with respects to my generation came out in the form of intellectual superiority to my generation. The mindset is that I don't want the reality of my generation to color other's perceptions of me, so I differentiate on the basis of my self-perceived intelligence. The narcissism is not the superiority, but also the worry over other's perceptions of myself.

Which is always the sticking point with identifying PD's. It can be tough to ascertain somebody's PD or strains of PD if you have just met them, as it can manifest itself in many ways that appear narcissistic.

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To directly answer your question, let's talk two variations of the narcissistic theme in TV shows - Michael Scott from "The Office" & Hank Moody from "Californication." Both are narcissists, but Scott is a narcissistic who lives in his own head, while Moody is a narcissist who has real world accomplishments to back up his ego. This is important to realize, as most narcissists are all just in their heads - or just on the internet.

If you are trying to avoid being drained by a narcissist, the most critical idea to consider is to keep your mind around you. You need to mindful of somebody who is a little to quick to pick up on what you desire. Narcissists are experts at discerning what you want, giving it to you until they are secure in your approval, then withdrawing it all.

Let's talk a few warning signs. Narcissists are always too charming, too charismatic, too appealing. They always stand ahead of the pack & that should give you a warning sign. While humans can & will form bonds quickly, it is never healthy to go as fast as narcissists will push.

Also, consider how they treat others. If you are good at reading others, you can understand when somebody like a narcissist is saying the right things verbally, but meaning none of it. Narcissists do NOT understand teamwork - all that matters is them. Consider their actions and not words. Narcissists often rope people in with a silver tongue, only to never deliver on those words.

Finally, I always recommend getting opinions of people around said person. If you hear from multiple, disinterested parties that said person is X, Y, or Z, it probably has some truth. Let's say you talked candidly to that person's close friend, a coworker & former softball teammate - odds are you will get a decent gauge on who that person is. People can only fake who they are for so long.

The quickest test? A seriously random question that anybody with compassion would respond without thinking. Watch the eyes closely. It may be only a second, but you can see a lot about somebody.

The easiest way to deal with narcissists would be to roll with me, as I have perfected identifying female narcissists, but part of that is because my mother is a clinical narcissist.

Beyond that, I have noted I need to talk about how to deal with various PD's, as I developed successful strategies for narcissists, obsessive-compulsive people & anti-socials. I will never touch paranoids (as I fall into that group) and histrionics are still just out of reach for me.

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Women attention whore naturally, but now their behavior is bleeding off into guys as well. We all have 'that' facebook friend
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Very interesting. I once hung around with this PHD Psychologist wench. She was pretty hot, around 30 years old. She turned out to be the biggest nut I ever met. Totally histrionic and narcissistic. She would flip out about dropping a piece of popcorn on the carpet. I never met anyone so self-absorbed and who thought she was above everyone. And the fucking drama. Jesus, she would have meltdowns where she was scream obscenities and cry and her face would be all red and fuck up. What a nightmare. I look back and diagnose her with a PD. I bet she was diagnosed officially, and that's why she became a clinical psychologist. A lot of nut cases are drawn to that field.

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