[Parlay44]

A project girl is a girl that would be really attractive if she improved a few simple things about herself.

Example:

1. A cool girl with a pretty face but 20 pounds overweight.

2. A pretty girl with no social skills. Bookworm type.

3. A girl with no sense of style. Clueless about clothes, hair and make-up.

Have any of you taken on a project girl as an LTR? Were you able to clean her up and make her cool or attractive? Is it worth the effort?

[MrXY]

I thought this thread was going to be about hoodrats ........

[AneroidOcean]

(06-10-2013 07:19 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

A project girl is a girl that would be really attractive if she improved a few simple things about herself.

Example:

1. A cool girl with a pretty face but 20 pounds overweight.

2. A pretty girl with no social skills. Bookworm type.

3. A girl with no sense of style. Clueless about clothes, hair and make-up.

Have any of you taken on a project girl as an LTR? Were you able to clean her up and make her cool or attractive? Is it worth the effort?

I've dated a girl that had a combination of these three. However, I don't think that them being REALLY off in any category is workable. If they are somewhat off in multiple categories that can work out well. In my situation this girl was a few pounds overweight (but just got her to hit the gym a little more), she was not socially too savvy/bookworm type and this played to my nerdy side so I didn't really mind it, and her sense of style was pretty old fashioned. Sometimes it worked perfect (sun dress that REALLY made her look pretty) but a lot of the time she'd have sweatshirts and other more grandma style stuff that covered up a lot. This worked fine for me because I'd just encourage her to wear sexier stuff underneath and then I'd get her clothes off. Also, I actually prefer a girl that looks cute without makeup versus a girl that only looks pretty WITH makeup.

I find that the power dynamic when you've got a girl that really finds you attractive (more attractive than her) is MUCH better, whether this is through frame/game on your part, through some mild deficiencies on her part, or a combination of both. The nineteen year old I hooked up with recently is like this too. The combination you want to aim for is a great life/frame, good game/social skills, logistics, and TARGET SELECTION. When you select the targets that not only are open to you but that would find you really attractive (above their own self-assigned points), then it's as near as you can get to a slam dunk.

[Parlay44]

(06-10-2013 07:54 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

I thought this thread was going to be about hoodrats ........

Feel free to bust out a new thread.

[Plutoman]

Only works for the latter two... can't deal with the first at all. The latter two show a lack of knowledge - that can be fixed. The first shows a lack of self-care, a lack of the basic responsibility to take care of her own body. It shows laziness. Can be fixed, but too much effort. Brought it up in another thread, but there's different types of issues with a girl. Some are inherent to her personality - they can't necessarily be fixed. Others are just a lack of knowledge, or a flaw that she was never privy to being able to change.

Inherent flaws (laziness is the biggest one) are out of the question; the rest are on the table. May play a part in a decision, but they fall secondary to the more major concerns.

[Aviditatis]

I'd say it depends on the market. If you are in a town/city where the talent is quite average, and you know you can make her something better than that without putting so much effort and time, I'd say go for it. Of course it depends on several other things, but otherwise, I think it's a waste of time.

[Aviditatis]

(06-10-2013 07:54 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

I thought this thread was going to be about hoodrats ........

Me too , as soon as I read the tittle I thought of this verse from Jay Z (Girls, girls, girls) :

"Got a project chick, that plays her part
And if it goes down y'all that's my heart
Baby girl so thorough she been with me from the start
Hid my drugs from the NARCs, hid my guns by the parts"

[Laner]

2 and 3 all the time.

I am a solutionist and I like a worthwhile project.

[Hencredible Casanova]

I saw the title of this thread and thought you were referring to girls from "the projects."

[Kabal]

(06-10-2013 08:58 PM)Aviditatis Wrote:  

(06-10-2013 07:54 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

I thought this thread was going to be about hoodrats ........

Me too , as soon as I read the tittle I thought of this verse from Jay Z (Girls, girls, girls) :

"Got a project chick, that plays her part
And if it goes down y'all that's my heart
Baby girl so thorough she been with me from the start
Hid my drugs from the NARCs, hid my guns by the parts"

This was the Trope Namer and the Trope Codifier (with Lil Wayne, no less):

"Give me a project bitch
Give me a hoodrat chick
One that don't give a fuck
An say she took that dick"

[Blaze Frazier]

I call these girls with 'potential.' I hang with them for a while, but always leave before I can see them through to their potential. A few weeks ago I stumbled across a picture of a chick I used to date who I thought of as this way. If she lost a little bit of weight, she'd be fine. While we dated, she participated in P90X and CrossFit and sure enough, that weight went away. Too bad I wasn't around to see that happen.

[WestIndianArchie]

(06-10-2013 07:19 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

A project girl is a girl that would be really attractive if she improved a few simple things about herself.

Example:

1. A cool girl with a pretty face but 20 pounds overweight.

2. A pretty girl with no social skills. Bookworm type.

3. A girl with no sense of style. Clueless about clothes, hair and make-up.

Have any of you taken on a project girl as an LTR? Were you able to clean her up and make her cool or attractive? Is it worth the effort?

Did #3, got scooped on by the next player cause he was willing to promise her a ring. (lol @ her not being married yet...)

Not worth it, imo.

WIA

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Did #1 once and the result was nice, but it was hardly worth the effort. Not so much because of the time involved, but because of all the resistance. It really depends on her, not on you. If you feel like you're raping the girl instead of just nudging her in the right direction, it becomes a chore, and it all goes downhill from there.

[Ingocnito]

Yes to #1 and #3. Would say I made a change in the stylistically challenged girl, but if a girl is overweight, I'm not goin to alter my limited time for my own workout to be her life inspiration coach. These girls are failing at the daily grind, and in my experience can make the change, but almost always change back.

[soup]

I saw the title of this thread and I thought it was all about gaming girls from the projects.

[augen sehen]

In my experience, the hardest thing to change about a girl is her weight. If she's been fat her whole life, not only is that her reality and not only is her body used to that weight, but she's also likely got bad genes and she'll probably pass on the fat genes to her kids.

Girls who lack a bit of social savvy or makeup savvy can definitely be encouraged to get more attractive and its not seen as controlling to do so, unlike helping your fat cow girlfriend lose weight.

[Sonsowey]

I generally wouldn't try to change anyone. Really people are offended by outside attempts to change them, and become resistant. If she's fat, she's heard about it her whole life and hasn't taken action. Losing weight and getting healthy is something that really has to come from within.

I wouldn't care if she was bad at makeup or had poor social skills though. We could just bone at my place without me prancing her around in public. Then you have more free time to meet other girls. Win-win.

[Giovonny]

I love these girls. I look for 7s and 7.5's who need a little "polishing".

Sometimes, its just a little confidence, sometimes, its a fashion upgrade, sometimes, its a better diet, sometimes they just need to exercise a little. Sometimes, its a combination of these things.

I tell them that they are a "flower in bloom". I teach them how to be more beautiful.

If you can help a 7 become an 8, they are usually very thankful and loyal to you.

I also like the small town girls who come to the big city and they are unaware of their own value. Sometimes, young pretty girls come into the big city and they think they are a 6 or 7 when really they are an 8. They underestimate themselves and/or have low self esteem.

These girls are fun to work with because they assume that the are lower value then you. Thats a good frame to work from.

[The Beast1]

Nerdy girls are easy to clean up. I had a Ph.D student who fit the nerdy socialy awkward type. Honestly, they're the best because any type of social confidence on your part is something she envies and wants dearly on her part. Dressing better is super easy too. Most girls in america know how to dress for attractiveness. The key is whether or not they take the time to bother.

Not all of them are like this. If you're into MBTI and the like, these girls fall under the NT spectrum. Very intelligent in their fields of expertise.

[speakeasy]

[Lights]

don't think you want to date a girl from the projects unless you want tyrone the baby daddy and all his drug dealing et al to become your new family. not to mention vaneeza and all HER ratchet ass girls all up in yo biznass. your life is going to turn into an episode of martin.