[Soma]

(06-11-2013 02:40 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 02:00 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

In the past, it might have been possible because experiencing harsh consequences over your idiotic decisions will eventually catch up with you and make you think. For example, a woman fucking cads and being thrown out in the street with her bastard child, where she has to prostitute herself or die of starvation. These kinds of broken women probably made valuable anti-role models and preached what not to do ("my biggest regret is...")... in the past.

But today, women have all these artificial sources of self-esteem, money, social support, safety and reassurance that they never experience any significant consequences. A woman could have 10 bastard kids, go on crack and sleep only with gangster types until she is dying of incurable gonorrhea today, and she would still find someone willing to shelter her, give her understanding and reassure her hamster that she "just followed her heart".

Women learning from their experiences is, sadly, mostly a thing of the past.

Even back in the old days women could avoid the consequences of their behavior by abandoning their child.

Still can in Germany and other European countries.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(06-11-2013 02:40 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 02:00 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

In the past, it might have been possible because experiencing harsh consequences over your idiotic decisions will eventually catch up with you and make you think. For example, a woman fucking cads and being thrown out in the street with her bastard child, where she has to prostitute herself or die of starvation. These kinds of broken women probably made valuable anti-role models and preached what not to do ("my biggest regret is...")... in the past.

But today, women have all these artificial sources of self-esteem, money, social support, safety and reassurance that they never experience any significant consequences. A woman could have 10 bastard kids, go on crack and sleep only with gangster types until she is dying of incurable gonorrhea today, and she would still find someone willing to shelter her, give her understanding and reassure her hamster that she "just followed her heart".

Women learning from their experiences is, sadly, mostly a thing of the past.

Even back in the old days women could avoid the consequences of their behavior by abandoning their child.

Yes, but even then no one would hail her for being so brave and heroic, nor would anyone deny that she had brought it upon herself.

[Samseau]

(06-11-2013 03:02 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 02:40 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 02:00 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

In the past, it might have been possible because experiencing harsh consequences over your idiotic decisions will eventually catch up with you and make you think. For example, a woman fucking cads and being thrown out in the street with her bastard child, where she has to prostitute herself or die of starvation. These kinds of broken women probably made valuable anti-role models and preached what not to do ("my biggest regret is...")... in the past.

But today, women have all these artificial sources of self-esteem, money, social support, safety and reassurance that they never experience any significant consequences. A woman could have 10 bastard kids, go on crack and sleep only with gangster types until she is dying of incurable gonorrhea today, and she would still find someone willing to shelter her, give her understanding and reassure her hamster that she "just followed her heart".

Women learning from their experiences is, sadly, mostly a thing of the past.

Even back in the old days women could avoid the consequences of their behavior by abandoning their child.

Yes, but even then no one would hail her for being so brave and heroic, nor would anyone deny that she had brought it upon herself.

She would just avoid the public's eye until she gave birth. No one would ever know she had a child or abandoned it after.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(06-11-2013 02:00 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

In the past, it might have been possible because experiencing harsh consequences over your idiotic decisions will eventually catch up with you and make you think. For example, a woman fucking cads and being thrown out in the street with her bastard child, where she has to prostitute herself or die of starvation. These kinds of broken women probably made valuable anti-role models and preached what not to do ("my biggest regret is...")... in the past.

But today, women have all these artificial sources of self-esteem, money, social support, safety and reassurance that they never experience any significant consequences. A woman could have 10 bastard kids, go on crack and sleep only with gangster types until she is dying of incurable gonorrhea today, and she would still find someone willing to shelter her, give her understanding and reassure her hamster that she "just followed her heart".

Women learning from their experiences is, sadly, mostly a thing of the past.

"A woman could have 10 bastard kids, go on crack and sleep only with gangster types until she is dying of incurable gonorrhea today, and she would still find someone willing to shelter her, give her understanding and reassure her hamster that she "just followed her heart"."

After which she could take her story to Jezebel or get on reality TV then get a sweet book deal and write a book blaming YOU. That's "progress."

[Travelsick]

I don't get why you think you need to teach a woman a lesson because she doesn't want to sleep with you.

Do you think you deserve a lesson taught every time you dont' want to sleep with someone (anymore)?


...


Some of you guys...

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(06-11-2013 02:53 AM)Soma Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 02:40 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Even back in the old days women could avoid the consequences of their behavior by abandoning their child.

Still can in Germany and other European countries.

Notice how the article frames the issue as a male problem again. Apparently, it is those vile pimps and abusive boyfriends who force women to leave their children in those boxes, or even kidnap their children to do it personally. Were it not for them, the boxes wouldn't be needed.

p.s. personally, I think those boxes are a good idea

[Que enspastic]

(06-11-2013 07:25 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  

I don't get why you think you need to teach a woman a lesson because she doesn't want to sleep with you.

Do you think you deserve a lesson taught every time you dont' want to sleep with someone (anymore)?


...


Some of you guys...

this.

no one has said what lesson they propose to teach.

it seems like you only really want to teach a lesson to those women who don't sleep with you. seems needy.

red pill is about accepting things as they are without fretting about saving others.

[Architekt]

(06-11-2013 08:05 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 07:25 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  

I don't get why you think you need to teach a woman a lesson because she doesn't want to sleep with you.

Do you think you deserve a lesson taught every time you dont' want to sleep with someone (anymore)?


...


Some of you guys...

this.

no one has said what lesson they propose to teach.

it seems like you only really want to teach a lesson to those women who don't sleep with you. seems needy.

red pill is about accepting things as they are without fretting about saving others.

"Red pill" is just an untainted view of the world. What you do with your knowledge and observations is your own choice.

I think the idea is that women should stop being so narcissistic. It's a reasonable assertion, but, I agree, it feels slightly forced in this situation.

[Samseau]

(06-11-2013 08:05 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 07:25 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  

I don't get why you think you need to teach a woman a lesson because she doesn't want to sleep with you.

Do you think you deserve a lesson taught every time you dont' want to sleep with someone (anymore)?


...


Some of you guys...

this.

no one has said what lesson they propose to teach.

it seems like you only really want to teach a lesson to those women who don't sleep with you. seems needy.

red pill is about accepting things as they are without fretting about saving others.

Yes guys, I was being needy by picking up another woman in front of an old one and then banging her the same night. Travelsick, I almost caught AIDS that night because I didn't wear a condom either!



Not only do both of you reveal that you each have poor game, but you're blue pill too. If you honestly believe a girl "decides" to have sex with you then aren't going to be having a lot of sex with cute girls anytime soon.

[Samseau]

(06-11-2013 07:40 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 02:53 AM)Soma Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 02:40 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Even back in the old days women could avoid the consequences of their behavior by abandoning their child.

Still can in Germany and other European countries.

Notice how the article frames the issue as a male problem again. Apparently, it is those vile pimps and abusive boyfriends who force women to leave their children in those boxes, or even kidnap their children to do it personally. Were it not for them, the boxes wouldn't be needed.

p.s. personally, I think those boxes are a good idea

While those boxes do spare the children, it does allow women to slut it up without consequence which then reinforces their bad behavior.

On the other hand, if a woman is cold enough to abandon her child in a box she's cold enough to abandon her child in a trashcan as well. In either case she's not going to suffer any consequences, so in the final analysis I must say that the baby box is a good idea.

However, ideally it should be done through charity and not through taxation.

[Christian McQueen]

'Not only do both of you reveal that you each have poor game, but you're blue pill too. If you honestly believe a girl "decides" to have sex with you then aren't going to be having a lot of sex with cute girls anytime soon.'

^^^Well said.

[Screwston]

It's not possible in 2013 with American girls. They have way to many choices to give a fuck. It's just to easy for them to get another guy when you do any little thing that they don't like.

[Aliblahba]

I don't see the point of teaching women a lesson, when there are still plenty out there that don't need it. As long as your frame is tight, they will self-calibrate to please and keep you from straying.

As I've said before:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-12734.html?

It's a players market here. Ignoring them so they are stuck fucking beta's is a lesson in itself, but takes no effort from you.

[Doulos2Game]

The best lesson you can teach a women these days is not teaching her nothing at all.

Let her live the way she does. Let her not know how to cook, clean, care for a man, be sexy, spontaneous, interesting, understanding, rational and a better person.

She will eventually marry a beta, have his kids, grow old, fat, be unable to perform in bed, have her husband cheat on her, become part of the 70% divorce rate and then she will learn her lesson.

[Screwston]

(06-11-2013 09:29 PM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  

The best lesson you can teach a women these days is not teaching her nothing at all.

Let her live the way she does. Let her not know how to cook, clean, care for a man, be sexy, spontaneous, interesting, understanding, rational and a better person.

She will eventually marry a beta, have his kids, grow old, fat, be unable to perform in bed, have her husband cheat on her, become part of the 70% divorce rate and then she will learn her lesson.

I wonder if these young women are gonna get old and finally realize that they done fucked up all those years. I doubt it...

[Aliblahba]

(06-11-2013 09:45 PM)houston Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 09:29 PM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  

The best lesson you can teach a women these days is not teaching her nothing at all.

Let her live the way she does. Let her not know how to cook, clean, care for a man, be sexy, spontaneous, interesting, understanding, rational and a better person.

She will eventually marry a beta, have his kids, grow old, fat, be unable to perform in bed, have her husband cheat on her, become part of the 70% divorce rate and then she will learn her lesson.

I wonder if these young women are gonna get old and finally realize that they done fucked up all those years. I doubt it...

Oh yes they do and I love to see it. After divorce a man may have a chance of recuperating. Women don't. Once they hit the wall their options are zero, save for another beta. Because of this they become very bitter people, and will instinctively point the blame at everything in the universe save themselves. It's a sad thing, as they lay a path of destruction in their wake.

I don't just see it, but advertisers too.

At the point of no return, those bitter women see themselves as above, but will always be at that point:

[Que enspastic]

a lot of women recognise their mistakes in retrospect.

all those frumpy women in their 40s pleading younger girls to settle for 'good enough' before they hit the point where they will have to settle for a cat.

[Ingocnito]

(06-10-2013 07:50 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Women are social chameleons. They have no sense of self. Men are defined by their careers. Women are defined by their outfits. Every time she changes her clothes she changes who she is. She can throw on a rock shirt and tight jeans and go to a concert in the afternoon and throw on some club clothes and high heels and be a club slut at night. Its pointless to try to change them because they become whatever their man is.

Well put. very true about the outfit. When all you have to "really" offer is looks and sex, attachment to appearance is one of their strongest somewhat breakable bonds. That's why neggin on appearance works for so many guys.

The best lesson you can teach here depending on how well constructed she is overall, is leave her ass if a LTR/STR or show disinterest and leave them wondering. Cause telling them why you don't want to be with them, or whatever lesson you want them to learn to maybe become more desirable for repeat, regular bangs just doesn't fuckin work.

[Ingocnito]

(06-11-2013 09:20 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I don't see the point of teaching women a lesson, when there are still plenty out there that don't need it. As long as your frame is tight, they will self-calibrate to please and keep you from straying.

As I've said before:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-12734.html?

It's a players market here. Ignoring them so they are stuck fucking beta's is a lesson in itself, but takes no effort from you.

[Travelsick]

(06-11-2013 02:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 08:05 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 07:25 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  

I don't get why you think you need to teach a woman a lesson because she doesn't want to sleep with you.

Do you think you deserve a lesson taught every time you dont' want to sleep with someone (anymore)?


...


Some of you guys...

this.

no one has said what lesson they propose to teach.

it seems like you only really want to teach a lesson to those women who don't sleep with you. seems needy.

red pill is about accepting things as they are without fretting about saving others.

Yes guys, I was being needy by picking up another woman in front of an old one and then banging her the same night. Travelsick, I almost caught AIDS that night because I didn't wear a condom either!



Not only do both of you reveal that you each have poor game, but you're blue pill too. If you honestly believe a girl "decides" to have sex with you then aren't going to be having a lot of sex with cute girls anytime soon.

As much as I appreciate your concern, I'm doing alright, thanks.

Leaves me to ask why not just enjoy the new cute girl you were sleeping with rather than keep fretting about the last? From what you described she was long over you and not in that situation anymore, it was you on your own. Whatever you're doing to her/in front of her isn't going to even register. It's you, in your head, pondering stuff that isn't exactly productive. But it's your prerogative naturally.

As for your little dig at the AIDS debate... lol ? Are you insinuating I would be troubled if you happen to contract HIV? Most bizarre mate. Go nuts man. You have my blessing.

[Doulos2Game]

(06-12-2013 03:26 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 02:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 08:05 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 07:25 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  

I don't get why you think you need to teach a woman a lesson because she doesn't want to sleep with you.

Do you think you deserve a lesson taught every time you dont' want to sleep with someone (anymore)?


...


Some of you guys...

this.

no one has said what lesson they propose to teach.

it seems like you only really want to teach a lesson to those women who don't sleep with you. seems needy.

red pill is about accepting things as they are without fretting about saving others.

Yes guys, I was being needy by picking up another woman in front of an old one and then banging her the same night. Travelsick, I almost caught AIDS that night because I didn't wear a condom either!



Not only do both of you reveal that you each have poor game, but you're blue pill too. If you honestly believe a girl "decides" to have sex with you then aren't going to be having a lot of sex with cute girls anytime soon.

As much as I appreciate your concern, I'm doing alright, thanks.

Leaves me to ask why not just enjoy the new cute girl you were sleeping with rather than keep fretting about the last? From what you described she was long over you and not in that situation anymore, it was you on your own. Whatever you're doing to her/in front of her isn't going to even register. It's you, in your head, pondering stuff that isn't exactly productive. But it's your prerogative naturally.

As for your little dig at the AIDS debate... lol ? Are you insinuating I would be troubled if you happen to contract HIV? Most bizarre mate. Go nuts man. You have my blessing.

[soup]

I think you can't teach lessons to women, but you can train them.

They are very much on the same level as dogs.

[Virtus]

(06-10-2013 03:06 PM)Hoodlum Wrote:  

It will take a concerted effort from multiple men, not just isolated incidents. Currently, if one man punishes her or calls her out, she has 50 others willing to take his place. But the move to restore parity to the sexual marketplace has to begin somewhere. Even the longest journeys start with a single step.

what is this, soviet romania? what move to restore what? there is parity. its called "alpha fux n beta bux! lollzolozozololozo" so dont be bernankified n uze ze slutz for da intended purpozes. lotsa cocka in za buttholllez