[Global Baller]

(09-07-2010 02:55 PM)Somali Hilwa Wrote:  

two American tourists who took a local girl and used their massive dog on her. Then they dumped her on the road and a local samaritan took her to hospital. Needless to say, they dog had destroyed her entire uterus when it did what its owners told it to while she was held down. Such disregard for African life!!! And here we have people joyfully recounting and even giving tips on how easy it is to score with African women[Ethiopian and Somali]. Very sad

Dog!!?? WTF???

[clr]

really what the heck does that dog have to do with anything? Otherwise we can bring up somali pirates. I think Somali H. is angry and taking it out on something that is normal practice. I dont think ANYONE on this forum condones abusing women or treating an entire culture of women as tho they were all whores and for sale. This is called a slippery slope theory.

The british guys piss me off too Rocco. BUT you and I both know colombia, its not just a fat older american guy with a young 22 yr old, for everyone of those there are 1000's of old fat Colombian guys with a 22 yr old on their arm. Its cultural and NOT just monetary because I have plenty of colombian FEMALE friends with their own jobs and money who ONLY date guys much older then them (20+ years) when I asked why they say because the older guys treat them better, and are less likely to be looking for a quick fuck and are more mature. To each their own.

Its no different them my jamacan friend who is black and gets girls in Costa rica because they want to fuck a black guy, women are attracted to what they want, and if they are attracted to me because I am white and from the US and perceived to have money, that is NOT something *I* am doing wrong. Men use what they have, my jamaican friend goes where he knows girls want to fuck a black guy, and stays away from places where he doesnt have as much perceived value.

No different IMO.

Rocco you said "That is your cultural view and for you, you see white men or really any men other than Ethiopian guys picking up girls and it bothers you. I want to support you in the fact that it should bother you. I am completely understanding of a man wanting to support and protect his own culture. It is completely natural and healthy to do so."

So its completely normal and you would condone redneck whites in america who think that a white woman should not be with a black ethiopian man and they have a right to be angry about it?

You cant have it both ways. I still like your posts tho

[Badstuber]

Somali Hilwa is a troll.

[Somali Hilwa]

Clr,
You are confusing dating with explotiation and the very fact that you think its normal practise speaks volumes about you.
Your colombian women have the right to date or not. These young girls in Africa don't enjoy that right and more or less are sexual toys for the white tourists because of the desperate poverty they are in.

And I am not 'angry and looking to take it out on someone' like you said. That would mean a lot of wasted energy that I could otherwise use to help my African brethen.

[Somali Hilwa]

Is that the best you could come up with?

(09-07-2010 03:48 PM)Badstuber Wrote:  

Somali Hilwa is a troll.

[Badstuber]

(09-07-2010 03:59 PM)Somali Hilwa Wrote:  

Is that the best you could come up with?

(09-07-2010 03:48 PM)Badstuber Wrote:  

Somali Hilwa is a troll.

[Somali Hilwa]

What are you waiting for? Spray me!!!

[clr]

I was out at the shore and all the guys there save 1 were multimillionaires, the women were joking that there are no ugly rich guys, thats a females joke, not a males.

Somali H. What speaks volumes about me is my experience, I have been to 40 countries (plus or minus) I dont agree with much of what pedro says, but naughty nomad is just being a man who goes around the world and has sex. Now I should ask a woman how much money she makes before having sex with her? Oh this one is too poor so I cant fuck her????

I went back and re-read all of naughty N's comments he never said anything about exploiting Somali women, he said he thought they were beautiful and very curious about westerners and that its easy for a westerner to get laid there. You want to call using the fact that you are different exploiting? Men want to get laid, men go out to get laid.

Every women I come across has free will. Am I exploiting my workers in costa rica because they cost me 1/10 of what I would pay in the US? No way. If I go to a country and the custom is that every women I have sex with blows me for 20 minutes first, am I exploiting the women? If I go to a country whos women are attracted to or curious about white guys, is that exploiting? You are crazy if you think so. If there is a country where beautiful women think I am brad pitt, you bet your ass I am gonna go there.

Thats me being smart and going where I have more perceived value, AND coincidentally where the women there hold more value in my eyes as well. I see no exploitation where everyone has free will and both sides are in agreement.

No one is being abused or mistreated..... if I have sex with a girl, its her gain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploitation
In political economy, economics, and sociology, exploitation involves a persistent social relationship in which certain persons are being mistreated or unfairly used for the benefit of others. This corresponds to one ethical conception of exploitation, that is, the treatment of human beings as mere means to an end—or as mere "objects". In different terms, "exploitation" refers to the use of people as a resource, with little or no consideration of their well-being. This can take the following basic forms:
Taking something off a person or a group that rightfully belongs to them
Short-changing people in trade
Directly or indirectly forcing somebody to work
Using somebody against his will, or without his consent or knowledge
Imposing an arbitrary differential treatment of people to the advantage of some and the disadvantage of others (as in ascriptive discrimination)

[hydrogonian]

(09-07-2010 11:21 AM)Somali Hilwa Wrote:  

Most white people especially Americans do not.

Your a racist idiot. Once more, racism such as yours only creates more racism.

[hydrogonian]

(09-07-2010 02:55 PM)Somali Hilwa Wrote:  

Exactly Rocco. It doesn't matter what skin colour, exploitation is wrong. It just so happens in the world we live in, people from the West do it at a much higher rate because they can afford to travel to these poor countries ...

Completely unsupported bullshit. Human trafficking is a worldwide problem that is most often propagated by more powerful natives in poorer countries, and organized crime from those countries...

Can someone get rid of this racist troll?

[clr]

yup Hydro, and look, its not tourists exploiting its "WHITE" tourists exploiting, when I would bet a 1000 dollars that there are many times the number of african tourists "exploiting" aka sexing up locals. Blame it on the white man, damn, even in Somalia WOAH!

[hydrogonian]

(09-07-2010 05:12 PM)clr Wrote:  

yup Hydro, and look, its not tourists exploiting its "WHITE" tourists exploiting, when I would bet a 1000 dollars that there are many times the number of african tourists "exploiting" aka sexing up locals. Blame it on the white man, damn, even in Somalia WOAH!

No doubt about it. He/she only notices the occasional white man because they stick out (if SH has ever really been to Somalia, at least more than once). But he/she could care less about the many multiples of African men paying for the same thing.

SH: How many African vs. white men do you think the average Somali hooker bangs in her lifetime? A hooker is a hooker, and no occasional white tourist is going to make her any less of a hooker anytime soon.

Your trying to argue way above your comprehension and intelligence level here. The fact that your a racist makes it even harder to have a real dialogue with you.

[Somali Hilwa]

Clr and hydro,
I guess we view the world differently. As far as being rascist I don't believe I am, but then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I lived for most of my life in these East African countries and from my observations the white tourists exploiting the natives far surpassed the natives. Of course there are African men who do similiar things I never said there wasn't, but once again the whites especially in Coastal Kenya exploited the Africans. I stand by my point because I saw this first hand.
Oh btw hydro questioning my intelligence and comprehension doesn't make you any smarter.

[hydrogonian]

(09-07-2010 05:53 PM)Somali Hilwa Wrote:  

Clr and hydro,
I guess we view the world differently. As far as being rascist I don't believe I am, but then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I lived for most of my life in these East African countries and from my observations the white tourists exploiting the natives far surpassed the natives. Of course there are African men who do similiar things I never said there wasn't, but once again the whites especially in Coastal Kenya exploited the Africans. I stand by my point because I saw this first hand.
Oh btw hydro questioning my intelligence and comprehension doesn't make you any smarter.

I'm fine with not being that smart.

But I do know that the bolded comment makes little sense. Somalia must be the only country in the world then where the white tourists surpass the natives in frequenting the local hookers. Even in a place like Thailand, where the sex trade is an ingrained part of the culture and tourists flood the place throughout the year, the local men give the local hookers a large portion of their total business. Especially outside of the major cities.

I think that you choose to see what you will, which is that the white man is to blame for the corruption of the local girls. That's okay, because people often need someone to blame, over whom they have little control. It shifts the blame and guilt, and frees them and their people from having to take responsibility.

If I were to go to Colombia right now, how many Colombians would blame the white man for why there are Colombian hookers? They would laugh, because its the Colombian men who keep the hookers in business for the most part. Why would Somalia, a much less attractive option for white tourists for obvious reasons, have a sex trade supported by white males when its not even true for countries that are more pleasant to visit for, and more frequently visited by, white males?

I think that the local Somali girls would likely starve if they had to rely on the white mans money for survival.

The fact that you single out white men over latino men, asian men, arab men and African men does tell me that you are racist. That's fine, because after dating a few black women in my lifetime, I've actually dealt with a lot of black on white racism directed toward me. Your just hurting yourself, and your people my friend, when you choose to voice those opinions. Just as white on black racism makes black people less trusting of white people, the converse is also true. Luckily, I am smart enough to know that you just haven't been around enough, and you probably are frustrated by your situation and need someone to blame. That's okay. I can't blame you for that, as its natural. I won't hold other people accountable for your opinions. But don't expect too much sympathy outside of your local area when you are being racist, and levying an opinion which makes little logical sense.

Also, if you have a better option for the hookers, why don't you work on creating jobs for them? Unless they are slaves, its a choice. So, create a better option for them than selling sex to any man. If you don't have a better option for them, then you shouldn't be so judgmental. What else are they supposed to do? As one of their own, its your responsibility if you think so little of their available choices. Or you can donate food to them so that they don't starve when they quit their jobs. No one wants their daughters or mothers doing what those girls do. Its just a part of this crazy world. But you need to take responsibility if you don't like it, and stop blaming others.

Also, I think this conversation has likely reached its end. What else is there to say? Thanks for dropping by the forums with your input.

[Somali Hilwa]

Hydro,
That is exactly what I am doing. I am taking responsibilty in my own little way.
All the best.

[Rocco81]

clr: I didn't mean in the case of 2 normal consenting adults dating that its ok to hate on them.

What I was referring to was how foreigners can treat women in the context this Somalian chap here is talking about. His example is flawed because we know Somalia is poor and rich Somalis are doing the same thing that foreingers are. I get that much and I agree with you.


In the example of the Brits and the Slovaks, they are both white but the cultures are different, I used that example to show how culture and not race can cause friction. Ask Africans how they feel about neighboring nations...ask Euros how they see some of their neighbors is all I'm saying.

I also agree with you about the older guys younger girls thing...we're on the level. For me though, the South Americans just loved blue eyes and white skin. I mean in a place where everyone is 90% brown eyed and black haired we stick out.

[Rocco81]

But yeah I sense a troll here.... maybe Im wrong.

[Badstuber]

Lol @ people feeding the troll.

Successful troll is successfull

[clr]

Its funny Rocco tho, I'm seeing this darker skinned brasilian here in Newark NJ, she lives around a lot of blacks and asked me a few days ago what is wrong with the blacks in America, her works "blacks don't act like that in Brazil". She has this view that most American blacks are trash, when she would probably be considered black by many.

Funny how perception works eh?

That same perception misconception is at work with our troll. Its sad to say but I have met 10 times the racially judgementql "blacks" as I have "whites".

Interesting times my friend!

[Global Baller]

(09-08-2010 01:58 AM)clr Wrote:  

I'm seeing this darker skinned brasilian here in Newark NJ, she lives around a lot of blacks and asked me a few days ago what is wrong with the blacks in America, her works "blacks don't act like that in Brazil". She has this view that most American blacks are trash, when she would probably be considered black by many.

I'm very suspect about your post. Why would she ask a non-Black what's wrong with Blacks in America. Logic would dictate that she would ask a Black American a question like that.

As a counter to the above post: An Australian fem friend of mine has the view that white Americans are 'loopy' among other things.

[Global Baller]

(09-08-2010 12:18 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

the South Americans just loved blue eyes and white skin. I mean in a place where everyone is 90% brown eyed and black haired we stick out.

Ditto for Black guys in Scandinavia, the Baltics, Holland, Belgium, the Czech Rep, Slovakia, Poland, the Balkins, parts of Italy, parts of France, Australia, New Zealand, parts of Canada, Argentina, Chile & Costa Rica.

[playa_with_a_passport]

Fellas, I think we are getting sidetracked here, I don't pay for pussy but I would like to know where in Ethiopia you can buy poon for $1? Also, I always thought that "Human Trafficking" was a term coined by a fat Western women in order to guilt Western men into not going overseas for pussy. Fat bald White cats are the best thing that has happened to prostitutes in the third world since the condom was invented. Thus, I actually think sex tourism is good. It brings hard currency(tricks spend money on hotel,food,pennicilin) in and the smart Ho's can use that money to diversify and pay their kids tuition to break the cycle of poverty. Plus, foreigners always pay more. A Somali pros would rather fuck a White guy for $10 a nut than $1 for a local Somali. She might even prefer the White guy because he would not be pressuring her to have unprotected sex. About the only people who get hurt by sex tourism are the local dudes who for years were used to free or cheap pussy are now going to have to pay more for less quality.

[Badstuber]

(09-08-2010 10:49 AM)Global Baller Wrote:  

(09-08-2010 12:18 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

the South Americans just loved blue eyes and white skin. I mean in a place where everyone is 90% brown eyed and black haired we stick out.

Ditto for Black guys in Scandinavia, the Baltics, Holland, Belgium, the Czech Rep, Slovakia, Poland, the Balkins, parts of Italy, parts of France, Australia, New Zealand, parts of Canada, Argentina, Chile & Costa Rica.

Lol, are you obsessed with interracial stuff? No offense, just asking.

[Rocco81]

Global Baller: If you ever took the time to read what I post here in the past you would know that I never disagreed with bieng different/unique getting someone ass. Can we get that Clear?

*I only disagreed that some people have a negative approach to it and talk shit like they are fucking special (like the American guys "crushing" pussy in Thailand for instance of the British guys mistreating central European girls) as is the case here. But I think that point seems to be lost on you.

I have said (and other brothers here agreed) that in parts of the places you mentioned of course bieng different is unique and gets you ass. I also had brothers here concur that bieng educated and cool gets you further than the MTV stereotype of thug, ghetto, uneducated...same as bieng a cool white dude gets you further than some old gringo in white socks and a Hawaiin shirt in Colombia (both are negative images of our races abroad no?)

[Rocco81]

clr: I feel you man. I have some good friends of all backgrounds, but I grew up around black folks most of my life and can tell you that I have met just as many or more judgemental and racially prejudiced blacks as I have whites.