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What do I do from here?
#1

What do I do from here?

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There's this girl, a 7, who's been my friend since I was a hopeless betaboy from years ago. Long story short, I moved across the country for a few years and wind up back here. We meet up, hook up, and have a good thing for a few weeks before she gets a boyfriend.

Queue the inevitable breakup a few months later- he dumps her because the distance isn't worth it (2 hour drive). She invites me over to her place that night, one thing leads to another and we fuck. The next day, her boyfriend wants her back. She feels guilty and tells him about what happened between us, but in a way that basically said "I took advantage of her."

Queue fight, resulting in me and her not talking for a while. She's been single since then though, happily fucking this dude every few weeks trying to win him back. She's finally accepted that it won't happen.

Huge life crisis happens to her and since she had no one else to turn to, she came to me asking for help. One beta relapse later, we're friends again.

Things go well between us, but I told her several times because of what happened I don't see us hooking up again. Dunno if I did this subconsciously or not, but it was really the proper challenge because she's tried like crazy since then.

Which prompted the following conversation, a few days ago.

Her: I just don't get why you wouldn't sleep with me.
Me: *Looks at her, raises eyebrows, doesn't speak*
Her: Like what's changed since then and now?
Me: Y'know what, fine. I'd totally, definitely sleep with you.
Her: I don't believe you.
Me: That's on you, then.
Her: Prove it! I'll give you 3 days to prove it.
Me: Hey, I don't appreciate time constraints.
Her: Alright, fine, 4 days.
Me: *same look, no words*
Her: *leans up on me* So I got this bra today, it's brand new. It's black on the outside but It's cute and pink on the inside, wanna see?
Me: *doesn't repsond*
She reaches into her low cut shirt and turns her bra inside out to show me.

Me: Huh. I didn't picture you to be the kind of girl who'd wear something so... bright.
Her: Hey! I think I look cute in pink. But I don't think you're gonna sleep with me.
Me: That's on you, then. I totally, definitely will.
Her: Uh huh. Well you have 5 days to prove it.

I drive her home, drop her off, and think nothing of it.

We meet up the next day (I work with this girl now) cause I promised i'd take her home from work. I get to her house, and drop her off. She invites me in; I decline politely.

Next couple days pass, it's day 4 of her frame. We're hanging out at her house, smoking pot and having a good time. She goes to her computer and starts talking to some guy online, I make a note of it and start texting a few people in the meantime.

Time passes, we talk some but I'm kind've wrapped up in my texts and don't really pay much attention to her. She gets pissy and says it's like talking to a wall. I look at her and say "I hear every word she's saying."

She replies "so's the wall."

I dunno why but I decided at that instant to give her another chance. I Look at her for a minute, and say "do you want to fuck?"

She gets flustered and says "What!? NO. That's weird."

So I reply, "Alright, so it's day 4 and I earnestly tried, this falls on you now."

She gets quiet for a bit, then says "I hate you. That's not fair. Besides, you wouldn't anyways."

I look at her and say, "I totally, definitely would."

Her: I don't believe you.
Me: That's on you, then.

Her body language becomes much more open to me- legs pointed at me (we're sitting down.)
Her: Why do you want to all of a sudden? I don't believe you.
Me: I want to fuck you because I want to fuck you.
Her: I think you just want to win.
Me: That's on you, then.

She slides closer, and mumbles "I don't believe you.."
I put my hand on her leg and say (yet again) "that's on you, then."

At this point she slides closer to me but I don't move my hand. It ends up right over her pussy.

Her: "Why do you want to fuck me?"
Me: "Because I want to fuck you." I move my hand a little- she's practically begging at this point.
Her: "... Where do you want to fuck me?"
Me: "Lets try your bed."

We go upstairs, start making out, fooling around, grabbing, etc. Her bra comes off. She mutters "I shouldn't do this." I ignore it. She repeats, louder this time. I still ignore it. I kiss her neck. She grabs my hair and forces me closer to her. Then she pushes my face away and says "I shouldn't do this."

I say, "I don't believe you."

She says, "You never do." (reference to last time months ago)

I look at her, irritated. Put my shirt back on and say, "bye."

I swear I hear her mutter something, but I don't turn around or say anything else.

I go downstairs, grab my belongings, and leave.















My question is, what the fuck? I know it was last minute resistance but it was so over the top how she just pushed me away that i couldn't just blow past it.

She's been online since then (AIM) and i've been invisible- I don't think she ever went to sleep. Should I wait for her to call me? If I see her at work, I plan on ignoring her- think that's the right move to make? I guess I just don't know where to go from here. Any advice would be appreciated, although I'm just expecting a bunch of "forget her" I don't think my chances are totally shot.
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#2

What do I do from here?

Sounds like she is a control freak, and gets her kick from fucking with you - she knows you want her, and her orgasm comes from pulling your strings like a puppet at will.

It sounds to me like you make yourself too available for her.....be aloof and busy, and out with another girlfriend (prettier than her) when she calls.

My advice: Next time she asks you to fuck - respond "Sorry, someone else got your day 5".....

Now, if you want to fuck her again...wait her to hang up on you, or have her shit fit anger attack - she will eventually begin to qualify herself to you, and give you reasons as to why you should be fucking her....this is your queue!

Also, let her simmer on you fucking someone else for 1 day...then, go for the kill...if she still plays mind games with you - CUT HER LOOSE!

mixx
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#3

What do I do from here?

Appreciate the advice.

Honestly that all sounds great, but it banks on her calling me- something she never really did anyways. Thinking I'll cut contact today, then be online tomorrow. Even if I don't hook up tonight with anyone else I can make it look like I did, that's pretty smart.

Big problem I'm worrying about is how to present myself when she talks to me next- I've had moderate success with women but I'm relatively new to game. I'm doubting right now that she'll be asking to fuck any time soon after last night.
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#4

What do I do from here?

Quote: (07-25-2010 02:00 PM)alphabeta Wrote:  

My question is, what the fuck? I know it was last minute resistance but it was so over the top how she just pushed me away that i couldn't just blow past it.

seriously... A girl is asking you to have sex.. she wants to have sex with you..you make a big deal and talk her out of it.. then you purposefully leave.. and then you post asking why she is upset and didn't have sex with you? You could have easily pushed past this token resistance.. even just waiting 10 minutes and trying again.

lol.. (sorry don't mean to sound like a dickhead)

girls don't want to be responsible for sex.. you can't make it "on her"
you just have to fuck her and be 100% responsible for it. This girl obviously wanted it and she was giving you so many opportunities but you kept trying to get her to admit that she wanted it-which a girl will never do. Please learn from this. I don't understand why you care about how she feels. you know she just said all that BS to her ex boyfriend to get back with him.. girls will say anything- it doesn't mean jack.

anyhow sex is sex.. its like saying hey to someone. not a big deal unless u manage to make it awkward

There is this huge social pressure on girls not to be a slut and to fit in perfectly with the social circle - thats why she can't be like.. I want your nuts! girls try to get around this by hinting it, isolating themselves with you, or playing games with you like "you won't have sex with me.. blah blah blah". this is painfully obvious to them.. but not to us guys

hope this helps - I don't want this to come across as a flame/troll
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#5

What do I do from here?

the greatest line to use on a girl who's giving bullshit resistance:


"we don't have to do anything you don't want to"

and just keep pushing. works like magic

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#6

What do I do from here?

Thanks again. The bitch fit happened- she started it with "i get the feeling you hate me now." to which I avoided like a champ, but then she said "I had a panic attack. Last time we had sex things got fucked out of control and I just don't want to have sex with you, you just make it feel like I have to."

So I told her to go fuck herself.

Literally, just fuck you, you crazy bitch.

Right now I want her to feel guilty. I want her to feel like shit. I want her to feel like she has to beg for my forgiveness (and my cock.)

Even if this leads nowhere, I'm pretty happy right now. Feels pretty good to just tell her to fuck off. Felt pretty good to just walk out on her while she was naked because I don't want her blaming me or freaking at me for doing something she obviously wants. I'm not gonna tolerate her bullshit.
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#7

What do I do from here?

You are giving this one girl waaaaayyyy tooo much value and attention. How about you ditch her, and find yourself another hottie tonight, right now - shut down your computer - right now, and go get 3 more like her!

You given her so much value is got you going crazy...and that is totally BETA!

Mixx
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#8

What do I do from here?

Sounds like you are in love:

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There's this girl, a 7, who's been my friend since I was a hopeless betaboy from years ago.

That's bad. You are too personal with her to maintain a proper alpha frame.

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We meet up, hook up, and have a good thing for a few weeks before she gets a boyfriend.

In other words, she dumped you once before.

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Queue the inevitable breakup a few months later- he dumps her because the distance isn't worth it (2 hour drive). She invites me over to her place that night, one thing leads to another and we fuck.

And after she got dumped, she could just go back to you for post-breakup sex. This automatically means you like her more than she likes you, since she will take another dude over you.

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One beta relapse later, we're friends again.

After all the bullshit, you befriend her? I would have stopped talking to her after she left for her boyfriend the first time.

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We meet up the next day (I work with this girl now)

And you can't even get distance from her cause you work with her!


Word of advice. When in love, you will never play the game correctly. The only way to win at love is to have her love > your love.

Since you love her more than she loves you, and since love has a corrosive effect on the male mind, you can never have the upper hand in the relationship. And not having the upper hand means this relationship will cause you nothing but pain and misery.

Do yourself a favor. Cut this bitch out of your life, and never go back. Learn to game women via cold approach.


(Not to mention, she's terrible relationship material to begin with. She has no integrity (has multiple guys, uses men). She's inflexible (sounds like a bitch to get along with). I wouldn't be surprised if she's not much of a giver, either.)

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#9

What do I do from here?

Yeah just an update, thanks everyone for your help on this situation. I've dated multiple women since her, and it bothered her so much she actually walked out on her job while watching me game some new girl. I've cut her out of my life entirely- already, I've noticed my overall situation drastically improving.
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#10

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Bravo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ZE62jnW...re=related
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#11

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haha, she is a control freak [Image: smile.gif]
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