[MikeCF]

Where are these young girls getting all of this money to buy her own drinks?

There are 21 year old girls rolling out with black cards?

A lof of girls who are 18-22 don't even have jobs.

Many of my guy friends in their 20s are struggling a bit. I always pick up an extra drink when we're out or a dinner - just as my older friends and mentors did for men when I was younger.

Being young, absent a trust fund, generally means being broke. This is doubly true of girls.

I've seen the personal finances of many young girls and it's not pretty. Most are overdrawn on their accounts, don't make much money, etc.

So if a guy is saying he's dating young feminine girls but not spending money, I will call bullshit every time.

Young feminine girls don't have money to spend. They are living in cramped apartments with too many roommates.

They work at H&M or are entry-level at some ad agency or are receptionists.

And of course the "Seeking Arrangement Game" thread validates all of this.

Wasn't it slubu who had an 18 year old girl over who had never tasted champagne? How is a girl who has never tasted champagne going to drink if you don't buy the drinks?

Young girls are broke. If you want them to drink, you're going to have to buy some drinks.

Pretty straightforward and not debatable by guys who actually date younger girls and don't just pretend to on the Internet.

[The Pirate]

@MikeCF

Well, that`s not the case in Scandinavia. I have spoken to a few bouncers who tell me lots of young girls only bring taxi-money when they go out. The drinks they get from guys with open wallets, so they aren`t that innocent believe me. Then again I don`t normally date 18-22 year olds...more 25-28 and they should have plenty to provide for themselves without my help. With a guy friend its totally different. I`d be more than happy to buy my friends drinks, but thats a different secenario for me.

[el mechanico]

(05-24-2013 02:17 PM)The Pirate Wrote:  

@MikeCF

Well, that`s not the case in Scandinavia. I have spoken to a few bouncers who tell me lots of young girls only bring taxi-money when they go out. The drinks they get from guys with open wallets, so they aren`t that innocent believe me. Then again I don`t normally date 18-22 year olds...more 25-28 and they should have plenty to provide for themselves without my help. With a guy friend its totally different. I`d be more than happy to buy my friends drinks, but thats a different secenario for me.

Plus they cost like 50 bucks each in Norway. The girls there have access to cash.

We have an expression here that goes "As fucked up as a womans checkbook" this may not apply in Europe

[Hencredible Casanova]

I hooked up with a Norwegian girl in Rio a few months ago that was 20 years old. She paid for our entire night. Drinks and all. This was in spite of doing some major traveling for months. They must get money there.

[The Pirate]

@elmech
Drinks cost close to 20 usd here in Norway. No wonder you have to drink a lot just to forget the prices.

@Hencredible C

I guess she spent all the money she had saved on drinks in Norway on you then! Damn...so that`s how it works.

[el mechanico]

(05-24-2013 02:25 PM)The Pirate Wrote:  

@elmech
Drinks cost close to 20 usd here in Norway. No wonder you have to drink a lot just to forget the prices.

@Hencredible C

I guess she spent all the money she had saved on drinks in Norway on you then! Damn...so that`s how it works.

How much is a 750 of decent vodka and a pack of Princes?

[The Pirate]

Pack of 20 Prince would be about 15 usd... 122 usd for an Absolute Vodka 70cl in the liguor store. Welcome to Norway!

May I add...the drinks out are strictly 4cl with booze. It`s not eye-measurement like in Asia..

[DVY]

Last weekend, I bought 2 shots for the two girls who winked at me from across the bar. Then I proceeded to dance and make-out w/the brunette. Girl is blowing up my phone.

Was this beta?

Last weekend, I ordered a large sake from the bar at Katsuya and offered a free shot to the hot black model next to me. After dinner, she proceeded to invite me to a hookah bar w/8 other skanky dressed women and her two guy friends. They were popping bottles of champagne.

Was this beta?

[Hencredible Casanova]

(05-24-2013 02:25 PM)The Pirate Wrote:  

@elmech
Drinks cost close to 20 usd here in Norway. No wonder you have to drink a lot just to forget the prices.

@Hencredible C

I guess she spent all the money she had saved on drinks in Norway on you then! Damn...so that`s how it works.

Is it possible that Scandinavians act different towards each other than they do to outsiders? In my experience Scandinavian women are very independent and insist on not just going dutch but even paying the whole thing outright. I've heard this from many others as well.

[DarkTriad]

Can we make "Blog Recommendation" and "Best Of" a regular feature here?

[The Pirate]

I guess I should maybe narrow down my statements now to Norwegian girls, so I am not providing you with wrong info. I think you defenatly have a foreigner-value here, and some girls will insist on paying drinks so they don`t "owe" you anything. However I`d say that is for girls from from 25 plus. In the more posh/upscale clubs they`d be more than happy to be the leech on you wallet... I`d leave the champagne-tab for the guys with daddys credit-card, they have shit game anyway.

While the prices in Norway are high, so are out wages and when going abroad we can feel the benefit of that to the full extent. I`d still say it`s a sign of class that a girl bought you drinks all night, not all would. May I ask, did you bang her?

@DarkTriad

I agree...threads tend to start living their own life sometimes.

[Stun]

It's a good, motivational blog - today's post is quite sweet.

[Laner]

I just had this debate last night with a couple friends.

I have been seeing a couple girls and while not too young (24 and 28) they certainly do not have the money to "pop champagne" and party with no remorse.

Do I buy them drinks? Of course. The argument was: You spent $80 a night on a girl? Thats too much.

No, I spent $20 on a girl, $40 on myself (I like to drink) and $20 to the bartender. In two hours. With a classy beautiful woman. In a bar where I know the staff well and would likely be spending my time anyways. Meeting other women. These women also know that during this time the phone stays in the purse and she is mine. Buying drinks does not mean sex, but it does mean respect.

Quote:

So if a guy is saying he's dating young feminine girls but not spending money, I will call bullshit every time.

Young feminine girls don't have money to spend. They are living in cramped apartments with too many roommates.

Truth.

One of my favorite spur of the moment afternoon dates is to call up some women and tell them I hitting up XXXX for some oysters and cold wine and they should join me. If they do, I pick up the tab. If they dont I eat oysters and pick up the tab (obviously). A man needs to eat, might as well have some good company.

[rivelino]

i am working on a concept i call baby girl game. she is my baby girl, i am her master. if she takes care of me, i take care of her. if she pleases me, then i please her. if she is my little whore, then she is also my little princess. of all my girls, she is my favorite girl.

it goes well with my caring, giving nature, and it also is a great way to control her and make her feel dependent on me, for great food, nice hotels, great sex, and deep emotional fulfillment.

[Enigma]

Really good blog though he kills me with the constant typos.

[thegmanifesto]

(05-24-2013 02:07 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Where are these young girls getting all of this money to buy her own drinks?

There are 21 year old girls rolling out with black cards?

A lof of girls who are 18-22 don't even have jobs.

Many of my guy friends in their 20s are struggling a bit. I always pick up an extra drink when we're out or a dinner - just as my older friends and mentors did for men when I was younger.

Being young, absent a trust fund, generally means being broke. This is doubly true of girls.

I've seen the personal finances of many young girls and it's not pretty. Most are overdrawn on their accounts, don't make much money, etc.

So if a guy is saying he's dating young feminine girls but not spending money, I will call bullshit every time.

Young feminine girls don't have money to spend. They are living in cramped apartments with too many roommates.

They work at H&M or are entry-level at some ad agency or are receptionists.

And of course the "Seeking Arrangement Game" thread validates all of this.

Wasn't it slubu who had an 18 year old girl over who had never tasted champagne? How is a girl who has never tasted champagne going to drink if you don't buy the drinks?

Young girls are broke. If you want them to drink, you're going to have to buy some drinks.

Pretty straightforward and not debatable by guys who actually date younger girls and don't just pretend to on the Internet.

MikeCF pretty much single handedly check mated all but 3 or 4 of the Game blogs out there.

When I was super young I never spent any money on girls but I was mostly dating really rich girls, and I was using that surf/weed/beach Game.

That type of Game can be pulled off on young girls with minimal money spent, however, I never see any of the "Game Bloggers" talking about that kind of Game. Hell, I think I am the only one that really references it.

[Deluge]

(05-25-2013 06:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

When I was super young I never spent any money on girls but I was mostly dating really rich girls, and I was using that surf/weed/beach Game.

That type of Game can be pulled off on young girls with minimal money spent, however, I never see any of the "Game Bloggers" talking about that kind of Game. Hell, I think I am the only one that really references it.

Say a college aged guy is seeing a girl the same age. He can get away with cheap moves like having her come over to smoke weed and watch a movie/listen to music (which is basically free) or grabbing coffee on campus (you pay for your own coffee). The most he'll ever usually have to spend is paying for both their drinks when they're having a date at a cheap bar. But if the same girl is dating a guy in his late 20's she's going to expect to be "wined and dined" way more. I think it's just a part of their fantasy of dating older men.

[Seduction Sutra]

Read more Tolle, bro...

(05-24-2013 02:41 AM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  

I am mind blown at the amount of important knowledge in this thread right now.
This guy surely knows what he is taking about. We as players must understand that not every we read is true but when someone writes something so powerful you must clearly see it.

The key words he used through out the post were;

Unconscious

Ownership

Builder

The brain has a unconscious side to it that actions and thoughts are build into it.

We build our future unconsciously.

We make important sessions everyday without even thinking about it.

Questions;

Do you remember when you made the decision to looking into this screen?

You don't because you were expecting to get some value from looking at the screen.

Now imagine if you are able to control that in a women when it comes to having sex with you?

She wouldn't even know it but she would want your cock without even thinking about it.

[Seduction Sutra]

You've really gotta learn on how to make a logical argument.

(05-24-2013 12:59 AM)DVY Wrote:  

@Seduction Sutra- Dude your missing the point. The point is that being a cheap-ass is counterproductive. Yes, you shouldn't blow money on random girls- this ranges from bottle service, shopping, expensive dinners- but spending some money on girls is very productive.

i like taking girls on a food excursion. Letting them associate wonderful experiences w/my presence. Usually, Ill start it on the low-end, but I am particularly fond of sushi. Plus its a very eastern experience- everything is about sharing. Taking shots of sake (perfect for women), sharing sushi rolls, shooting the shit w/the sushi chef, drinking soup. Love it.

If you don't have funds, find something cheaper. This is very important. The money should be insignificant to you.

Hell, I had good dates with limited funds. Drinking at your pad, smoking weed, swooping in public places (on washing machines, random couches in the lobbies), getting into clubs w/free guestlist (flasking it BABY!!!), pre-drinking in cars, taking girls for thai food (30 dollars for two). Before, I had more time/less money, now I have more money/less time. Optimization....

[eradicator]

(05-26-2013 09:34 AM)Seduction Sutra Wrote:  

You've really gotta learn on how to make a logical argument.

(05-24-2013 12:59 AM)DVY Wrote:  

@Seduction Sutra- Dude your missing the point. The point is that being a cheap-ass is counterproductive. Yes, you shouldn't blow money on random girls- this ranges from bottle service, shopping, expensive dinners- but spending some money on girls is very productive.

i like taking girls on a food excursion. Letting them associate wonderful experiences w/my presence. Usually, Ill start it on the low-end, but I am particularly fond of sushi. Plus its a very eastern experience- everything is about sharing. Taking shots of sake (perfect for women), sharing sushi rolls, shooting the shit w/the sushi chef, drinking soup. Love it.

If you don't have funds, find something cheaper. This is very important. The money should be insignificant to you.

Hell, I had good dates with limited funds. Drinking at your pad, smoking weed, swooping in public places (on washing machines, random couches in the lobbies), getting into clubs w/free guestlist (flasking it BABY!!!), pre-drinking in cars, taking girls for thai food (30 dollars for two). Before, I had more time/less money, now I have more money/less time. Optimization....

I am pretty sure he is saying that buying drinks for random girls when you go to a bar isn't good game. But if you have some expensive tastes anyways for prime food and drink, it is fun to share those experiences with dates.

Is that logical enough? oh you are banned, but I sort of see what you were asking.

[snoop]

(05-26-2013 12:52 PM)master_thespian Wrote:  

I am pretty sure he is saying that buying drinks for random girls when you go to a bar isn't good game. But if you have some expensive tastes anyways for prime food and drink, it is fun to share those experiences with dates.

Is that logical enough? oh you are banned, but I sort of see what you were asking.

it can be good or bad, just depends. Are you doing it to buy their attention or are you doing it because you are a generous person who wants to have fun and has the means to provide it?

[ms224]

When I first saw the link to Crime and Punishment, I wound up reading the whole thing.

MikeCF can you do an article on what happens if you stop taking HGH or TRT? Everywhere I've looked it seems like once you start it not something you can stop, is that correct?