[Gmac]

(07-11-2011 01:26 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-10-2011 06:32 PM)Dash Global Wrote:  

The bottom line is no one can prove gods existence and no one can disprove gods existence.

Intelligent respectful debate is fine, but trying to belittle someone over their beliefs or lack of beliefs is just ignorant.

you being in this world..and i am being in this world...yours and mine heart is still beating....is already a prove of Gods existence.

Folks, this is what we call a logical fallacy.

[Dash Global]

That made zero sense. lol

[ANACONDA]

(07-11-2011 08:17 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 01:26 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-10-2011 06:32 PM)Dash Global Wrote:  

The bottom line is no one can prove gods existence and no one can disprove gods existence.

Intelligent respectful debate is fine, but trying to belittle someone over their beliefs or lack of beliefs is just ignorant.

you being in this world..and i am being in this world...yours and mine heart is still beating....is already a prove of Gods existence.

Folks, this is what we call a logical fallacy.

what is so fallacy in that.....its a logical fact.

[Dash Global]

care to explain that? that made zero sense to me and went completely over my head....

[Amour Fou]

You just gotta have...

[Gmac]

"In informal logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is usually incorrect argumentation in reasoning resulting in a misconception or presumption. By accident or design, fallacies may exploit emotional triggers in the listener or interlocutor (e.g. appeal to emotion), or take advantage of social relationships between people (e.g. argument from authority). Fallacious arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure any logical argument."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Read up, not that it'd convince you your argument is baseless anyway... but whatever.

YOU AND I ARE BOTH ALIVE, THEREFORE GOD EXISTS!!!

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

[ANACONDA]

(07-11-2011 08:57 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

"In informal logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is usually incorrect argumentation in reasoning resulting in a misconception or presumption. By accident or design, fallacies may exploit emotional triggers in the listener or interlocutor (e.g. appeal to emotion), or take advantage of social relationships between people (e.g. argument from authority). Fallacious arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure any logical argument."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Read up, not that it'd convince you your argument is baseless anyway... but whatever.

YOU AND I ARE BOTH ALIVE, THEREFORE GOD EXISTS!!!

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

reality always sucks....whether it sounds or ridiculous or not....but that's a fact. ! ..eat it up

[Gmac]

(07-11-2011 10:33 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 08:57 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

"In informal logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is usually incorrect argumentation in reasoning resulting in a misconception or presumption. By accident or design, fallacies may exploit emotional triggers in the listener or interlocutor (e.g. appeal to emotion), or take advantage of social relationships between people (e.g. argument from authority). Fallacious arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure any logical argument."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Read up, not that it'd convince you your argument is baseless anyway... but whatever.

YOU AND I ARE BOTH ALIVE, THEREFORE GOD EXISTS!!!

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

reality always sucks....whether it sounds or ridiculous or not....but that's a fact. ! ..eat it up

It's a baseless opinion, not a fact. Yet another example of why I should probably start supporting forced sterilization.

[Dash Global]

Anaconda,

I believe in God, yet I dont understand your statement that is in support for it at all. Made no sense to me.

Break that statement down por favor

[thecrazyfool]

Does anyone else here think that ANACONDA might be sir_seducer? They both have a similar style of peculiarly bad grammar.

[iknowexactly]

don't try to teach a pig to sing. it is frustrating and greatly annoys the pig --twain

don't try to disabuse children of their belief in invisible friends. it makes you look surly and greatly annoys the child. --me

"I'm sure Harry is a great friend, dear Let me know when the two of you want lunch or a ride to the basketball court"

[ANACONDA]

(07-11-2011 10:42 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 10:33 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 08:57 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

"In informal logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is usually incorrect argumentation in reasoning resulting in a misconception or presumption. By accident or design, fallacies may exploit emotional triggers in the listener or interlocutor (e.g. appeal to emotion), or take advantage of social relationships between people (e.g. argument from authority). Fallacious arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure any logical argument."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Read up, not that it'd convince you your argument is baseless anyway... but whatever.

YOU AND I ARE BOTH ALIVE, THEREFORE GOD EXISTS!!!
lity always sucks....whether it sounds or ridiculous or not....but that's a fact. ! ..eat it up

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

rea

It's a baseless opinion, not a fact. Yet another example of why I should probably start supporting forced sterilization.

always talk with logics...what is so baseless in it...existance of God or Yours?

[ANACONDA]

(07-11-2011 11:46 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  

Anaconda,

I believe in God, yet I dont understand your statement that is in support for it at all. Made no sense to me.

Break that statement down por favor

i am surprise you believe in God yet you dont believe you have a creator..

[Gmac]

(07-12-2011 06:49 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 10:42 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 10:33 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 08:57 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

"In informal logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is usually incorrect argumentation in reasoning resulting in a misconception or presumption. By accident or design, fallacies may exploit emotional triggers in the listener or interlocutor (e.g. appeal to emotion), or take advantage of social relationships between people (e.g. argument from authority). Fallacious arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure any logical argument."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Read up, not that it'd convince you your argument is baseless anyway... but whatever.

YOU AND I ARE BOTH ALIVE, THEREFORE GOD EXISTS!!!
lity always sucks....whether it sounds or ridiculous or not....but that's a fact. ! ..eat it up

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

rea

It's a baseless opinion, not a fact. Yet another example of why I should probably start supporting forced sterilization.

always talk with logics...what is so baseless in it...existance of God or Yours?

You can't even form a proper sentence. It's baseless but pointless for me to continue because you're like most religious defenders, a brick wall (with no evidence other than fallacies).

[ANACONDA]

(07-12-2011 07:07 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(07-12-2011 06:49 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 10:42 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 10:33 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 08:57 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

"In informal logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is usually incorrect argumentation in reasoning resulting in a misconception or presumption. By accident or design, fallacies may exploit emotional triggers in the listener or interlocutor (e.g. appeal to emotion), or take advantage of social relationships between people (e.g. argument from authority). Fallacious arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure any logical argument."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Read up, not that it'd convince you your argument is baseless anyway... but whatever.

YOU AND I ARE BOTH ALIVE, THEREFORE GOD EXISTS!!!
lity always sucks....whether it sounds or ridiculous or not....but that's a fact. ! ..eat it up

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

rea

It's a baseless opinion, not a fact. Yet another example of why I should probably start supporting forced sterilization.

always talk with logics...what is so baseless in it...existance of God or Yours?

You can't even form a proper sentence. It's baseless but pointless for me to continue because you're like most religious defenders, a brick wall (with no evidence other than fallacies).

i have already given the evidence...which is YOU..tell me how did you come into this world...must be your creator.

[Gmac]

Quote:

You can't even form a proper sentence. It's baseless but pointless for me to continue because you're like most religious defenders, a brick wall (with no evidence other than fallacies).

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i have already given the evidence...which is YOU..tell me how did you come into this world...must be your creator.

Exactly, you have nothing but logical fallacies.

Presents appeared underneath my tree, must be Santa.

Smarter men than me have put your arguments (I don't even know if I should call them that) to utter shame.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/m...logic.html

See, the problem with logic is that stubborn, religious nutjobs don't want to (or can't) understand it. This is why you have nothing.

[Dash Global]

(07-12-2011 06:51 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 11:46 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  

Anaconda,

I believe in God, yet I dont understand your statement that is in support for it at all. Made no sense to me.

Break that statement down por favor

i am surprise you believe in God yet you dont believe you have a creator..

I never said I dont have a creator.... lol

[Luckystar]

A few years ago I attended a debate at a university called 'Theist vs Atheist'.

Everyone came to the debate expecting the theist to get slaughtered and leave with some comedy.

To our surprise, the theist was shockingly convincing. By the end, he had everyone really thinking and rethinking. I'll never forget it.

The whole auditorium was quiet in disbelief as we left. Reminded me of when a home team get blown out by an underdog.

It taught me a couple lessons:

1) If you haven't studied, theology (not religion) then it is difficult to really discuss god. No common definition of god really gets established.

2) The criteria for existence doesn't have to be fixed to physical science. Social sciences can provide enough evidence to support god or not.

I'll never forget that debate.

[ANACONDA]

(07-12-2011 09:22 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  

(07-12-2011 06:51 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-11-2011 11:46 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  

Anaconda,

I believe in God, yet I dont understand your statement that is in support for it at all. Made no sense to me.

Break that statement down por favor

i am surprise you believe in God yet you dont believe you have a creator..

I never said I dont have a creator.... lol

then i call my creator a 'GOD'......what do you call him?

i just need his name....not a long post

[ANACONDA]

(07-12-2011 08:18 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

Quote:

You can't even form a proper sentence. It's baseless but pointless for me to continue because you're like most religious defenders, a brick wall (with no evidence other than fallacies).

Quote:

i have already given the evidence...which is YOU..tell me how did you come into this world...must be your creator.

Exactly, you have nothing but logical fallacies.

Presents appeared underneath my tree, must be Santa.

Smarter men than me have put your arguments (I don't even know if I should call them that) to utter shame.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/m...logic.html

See, the problem with logic is that stubborn, religious nutjobs don't want to (or can't) understand it. This is why you have nothing.

i am not giving logics....all i want to tell is that i am not here without creator....my existance proves i have a creator...and i call him God.

so all i asked a simple question...who is your creator? ..

[Dash Global]

Anaconda,

My creator personally is my mother and father.

The creator of the earth, and the universe to me is God.

I will assume you are trying to use the "everything must have a creator or come from something" train of thought. That would have been much more understandable than " you are here, i am here, so there must be a god" lol

[Gmac]

(07-12-2011 10:12 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

i am not giving logics....all i want to tell is that i am not here without creator....my existance proves i have a creator...and i call him God.

so all i asked a simple question...who is your creator? ..

Your existence only proves that you exist. "I think, therefore I am." You jumped from that to "god exists." What about multiple gods? What about alien gods? Evolution? Scientology?

You're asking the wrong question. You're assuming that a "creator" has to exist for us to be here. For all you know, I'm your creator.

Now if you want get into a biological, chemical, philosophical debate over evolution/DNA -> abiogenesis- > planet & star formation -> formation/existance of the universe --- there are plenty of resources out there that I'm sure you gleefully ignore.

Biology + Chemistry = Abiogenesis (origin of life) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prZPo4OCL0

But I'm going to assume that it's A) way over your head and B) not something you'd even consider

I've read the king james bible from cover to cover, so don't try to tell me I don't look at both sides.

Where religion is completely based on faith, science is grounded, real, and founded on logic, reason, facts, theories, and hypothesis (a definition you probably confuse often with a theory).

Quote:

don't try to teach a pig to sing. it is frustrating and greatly annoys the pig

I know, I don't know why I bother. Maybe someone reading got something out of this or it piqued one person's interest is my hope.

[ANACONDA]

(07-12-2011 10:54 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  

Anaconda,

My creator personally is my mother and father.

this is the most childish answer i have heard.....your creator is mother and father?..then who is creator of them?..and so on?

truth is...you cant deny the existence of God...no one can.

you exist in a good shape...therefore God exist.

[ANACONDA]

(07-12-2011 11:34 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(07-12-2011 10:12 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

i am not giving logics....all i want to tell is that i am not here without creator....my existance proves i have a creator...and i call him God.

so all i asked a simple question...who is your creator? ..

Your existence only proves that you exist. "I think, therefore I am." You jumped from that to "god exists." What about multiple gods? What about alien gods? Evolution? Scientology?

your existence proves that you exist..then who made you exist here?..who is your creator?..your still not answering the question.

i am not here to debate...i know Scientology and other religions too...just dont presume things if you dont really know the ability and knowledge of other person.

[Gmac]

(07-12-2011 11:38 AM)ANACONDA Wrote:  

(07-12-2011 10:54 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  

Anaconda,

My creator personally is my mother and father.

this is the most childish answer i have heard.....your creator is mother and father?..then who is creator of them?..and so on?

Ancestors -> Evolution.

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truth is...you cant deny the existence of God...no one can.

you exist in a good shape...therefore God exist.

"I deny the existence of god." Just said it.

You're in a "good shape" because of billions of years of evolution -- beneficial mutations. If we were perfect we'd wouldn't have eye sight that was poorer than other animals, we wouldn't easily succumb to disease and extreme temperatures, or grow old.

Thank god for cancer, baby rapists, and AIDS. Amirite? What a merciful god.

Alright I'm done.