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Slate Magazine Pro Polygamy
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Slate Magazine Pro Polygamy

Quote: (04-19-2013 04:03 PM)TheRookie Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2013 03:34 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

It seems that there is a much greater tolerance in the UK for the idea of a white woman dating, mating and procreating with a black male than there is in the USA. I know that the scenario you described (white women regularly having children by black men) is practically unheard of here, and high frowned upon. A white woman here can get shamed for merely being seen with a black male, so for many having a black child out of wedlock just-so is simply out of the question.

I call bullshit on this - there are definitely a lot of white baby mommas with black fathers in the USA amongst the lower classes. It is a middle class to upper middle class taboo but common among the white trash and I would expect the same is true in the UK.

At this point a lot of middle/upper middle class America would be okay with their daughters marrying a black man but they sure as shit aren't looking for an illegitimate child. White trash don't care though.

As this article points out there are no stats to back this up right now but I can speak anecdotally, and others seem to be saying the same thing on the internets.

http://community.babycenter.com/post/a30...ot_married

http://voices.yahoo.com/once-go-black-ne...tml?cat=25

Yeh i thought the same thing when I heard it.

Although I don't care if these women go with black men. I just don't want the high taxes in the UK to pay for their benefits. It's their problem they can deal with it.

Housing benefit also inflates the prices of private housing. Fuck them stick them in a ghetto made of corregated steel for all I care. There life their problem.
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#27

Slate Magazine Pro Polygamy

Quote: (04-19-2013 04:03 PM)TheRookie Wrote:  

I call bullshit on this - there are definitely a lot of white baby mommas with black fathers in the USA amongst the lower classes. It is a middle class to upper middle class taboo but common among the white trash and I would expect the same is true in the UK.

Fair enough (I can't disprove this anymore than you can prove it), but it is worth noting that my observations went beyond the random white trash and included celebrities and others with something to lose.

Again, I can't prove this (no stats to cite), but my anecdotal experience has shown me that you're more likely to find an attractive middle/upper class or otherwise high-value white woman in a relationship with a black male than you are here. Conversely, black female/white male couplings seem more standard fare over there as well.

There are stats that show the percentage of blacks in the UK who date/marry interracially to be several times higher than what we see in the USA. It is common enough that some in England are worried about the British Caribbean population disappearing.

Even in the more "progressive" and "IR-friendly" parts of the USA you aren't going to find black men dating/marrying white women at anything close to a rate of 50%.

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At this point a lot of middle/upper middle class America would be okay with their daughters marrying a black man but they sure as shit aren't looking for an illegitimate child. White trash don't care though.

The middle class has gotten much cooler with it, that I'll agree with.

I can confirm, however, that the upper class generally would still prefer to keep their daughters away from that trend.

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Oh is Firestorm out of here already? Damn, hardly knew you dude. I guess that's it for that convo.

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Slate Magazine Pro Polygamy

Quote: (04-19-2013 04:03 PM)TheRookie Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2013 03:34 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

It seems that there is a much greater tolerance in the UK for the idea of a white woman dating, mating and procreating with a black male than there is in the USA. I know that the scenario you described (white women regularly having children by black men) is practically unheard of here, and high frowned upon. A white woman here can get shamed for merely being seen with a black male, so for many having a black child out of wedlock just-so is simply out of the question.

I call bullshit on this - there are definitely a lot of white baby mommas with black fathers in the USA amongst the lower classes. It is a middle class to upper middle class taboo but common among the white trash and I would expect the same is true in the UK.

At this point a lot of middle/upper middle class America would be okay with their daughters marrying a black man but they sure as shit aren't looking for an illegitimate child. White trash don't care though.


It is bullshit, but not solely for the reason you describe.

Black men, indeed, seem to outperform in interracial marriage in the United States--especially considering their lower income (as women are hypergamous): About 1/11 marriages involving a black man is with a white woman. However, only about 1/25 marriages involving a black woman is with a white man.

In juxtaposition, only about 1/15 marriages involving an Asian man is with a white woman.
And Asian men out-earn black men by far.

That being said, these numbers could also be explained by lesser demand for black women from white men, greater demand from black men for white women, and lesser demand for white women from Asian men.

Nonetheless, interracial marriage figures indeed do not show racism against black men--if anything, it would suggest the opposite, if we look at White male/Black female and Asian male/White female pairings.

In any case, it would simply be a baseless, a priori assumption to automatically attribute a perceived and/or hypothetical shortage of white women dating black men to idiosyncratic racism against black men.

In fact, we have plenty of reason to think it would not be idiosyncratic racism.

White women do have a prejudice against black men, but it seems to be a by-product of a preference for white men, not a disliking of black men specifically.

Furthermore, whatever racial malady black men appear to be suffering in the quest for white women, Asian men must be having it worst:

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The results are striking. An African-American man would have to earn $154,000 more than a white man in order for a white woman to prefer him. A Hispanic man would need to earn $77,000 more than a white man, and Asian man would need, remarkably, an additional $247,000 in additional annual income.

As mentioned before, women are hypergamous and prefer higher earning men. Black men have lower incomes than do whites and Asians (Asians can at least chip away at the $247,000 gap with their higher incomes than whites), thus enlarging the $154,000 gap.

Women simply prefer dating men of their own race, ceteris paribus.

Women are afraid to be perceived as sluts and are more cognizant of their in-group reputation than men, and what would soil their sexual reputation more quickly than dating outsiders?

Anywhere you go in the world, the higher socioeconomic status and/or better-looking a girl is, the more reluctant she will be to date outside her race, all else equal. The better-looking and/or higher socioeconomic class she is, the more she has to lose and the less she has to gain in cavorting with an outsider.

This is why a 9 paisa might not even deign to listen to your opener, but her 6 counterpart will be enraptured by whatever high school Spanish you can spit ("donde esta una tienda de tacos y burritos?")--and why a rich Manila girl who went to a private international school might cringe if you talk to her, but her counterpart who works in a mall could very well go up to your hotel room after the first date.

No matter what SWPL American girls say in favor of multiculturalism, for the sake of self-preservation, they are racist like any other girl in the world.

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What I want to know is this:

How do light-skinned Latinos do in interracial dating in the UK?

How do IRTs do in interracial dating in the UK?
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