[Thrill Jackson]

Putting it all together that all the "popular girls" who were so "innocent and sweet" were the biggest hoes.

[EDantes]

Was never gung ho about the "get married and live happily ever after thing" due to parents being in a dysfunctional marriage from the get-go.

While I haven't had nearly as many encounters as some of the guys here (in the lower double digits range) I've seen enough "red pill experiences" that I've been woken up to it entirely, just a few stories:

1. Married friend of a short term fling of mine who I'm flirting with in a bar unzips my pants and starts giving me a handjob under the baroom table.

2. A few random one night stand encounters with some nice looking ladies who I'm pretty sure were married or had boyfriends, since they were down to fuck me but adverse to giving out their number.

3. Cute red haired girl at a bar with her husband, talking to her friends about how happy their marriage of 10 years or so was, then when husband's back is turned makes cute faces at me (didn't bang, not down as of yet with making a move on a chick who is out with a guy at a time, tried that once in a night of drunken stupidity just to see what would happen and almost got into a fight).

4. Run into horny cougar at random at a gas station who tries to pick up on me, openly tells me her husband and her have been having issues and she wants to fuck (lost her number, but ran into same woman again several months later at a bar, we make out but don't bang).

5. Some time ago when I had screwed up and been arrested for driving drunk, my MILF female pre-trial officer (who 10 bucks says was married) flirted with me shamelessly (I probably could've banged right in the office but was nervous about rumors getting out and it interfering with my probation, so I chickened out).

And I live in a smaller, redneck, conservative part of the country no less.

[General Stalin]

Posted this in the other thread but it's kind of a dupe so I'll repost here:

(04-04-2016 11:42 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Man, it's hard to pinpoint a specific tenet as it's really all encompassing, but if I had to pick one I guess it would be abundance mentality.

Actually internalizing the idea that there are literally billions of women out there, far far more than I would ever be able to meet in my lifetime.

Learning that there is no such thing as "the one" and there is always going to be a girl that is better for you around the corner.

Knowing that chicks are practically interchangeable, and no particular one is going to be much more remarkable than the rest.

Realizing that the best version of myself doesn't need a woman to be complete.

Tons and tons of new 18 years olds enter this world every day. There is no need to get particularly hung up and emotionally wrecked by any particular one.

If having a long term woman in your life and starting a family is something you want, the options are relatively limitless, and being a man who takes care of himself and set his life up well, you have plenty of time.

[Tytalus]

(01-26-2016 05:49 PM)Agreddor Wrote:  

Women dont want you to tell them the truth.

What can work very well is when you playfully lie so that they know you're lying and what the truth is.

"Are you checking out that girl?"

"No, no way. I was looking at the ground near her. Have you ever seen a bush with curves like that?"

-Got a good wack from my wife for that but man did she fuck like maniac later that night.

In my personal experience it has been how women respond so positively to assertiveness. My whole upbringing I was taught to be terrified of being too obvious in my intent with women. Never be bold, always be subtle, polite, and gentlemanly. Yes - that made me a lot of female *friends*. Older women were always supremely charmed with me and told me I must have piles girls lined up at my door, and were shocked when I would say, "Actually I'm terrible with girls romantically."

I still remember meeting a colombian girl at the bus stop at my university (in Canada). We get onto the bus. I figure "damn, this conversation is over". I still remember asking "I was going to suggest you sit next to me -" and was going to add some hemming and hawwing about how obviously that wouldn't work (I'd gotten some rainwater on the seat by accident)... No. Instead I've never seen a girl move SO FAST to sit next to me. Ever and since.

Two guys actually turned around and looked at me in shock, like they couldn't believe it. They probably couldn't believe their eyes also when they looked at her, holy fuck was she smoking, smoking hot. The thought that a smoking hot foreign girl could be so interested in me so quickly after a chance quick conversation at a bus stop a few moments before, and responded so well to "I was going to suggest you sit next to me"

I mean seriously guys, based on those words, does that sound like some fucking don juan? Jesus fuck no. Holy shit - I had frame by *fucking accident* and this girl lapped it up. If I hadn't had had my ex dump me a couple weeks before by telling me "it's over, I'm getting an abortion" I would have been in the emotional state to go somewhere with that colombian girl.

[Dalaran1991]

Havent been posting in game section for a while since I'm in a satisfied LTR. Which has given me a lot to think about recently that I would like to share with the group.

1. You will always be fine, as long as you still see the right track and JUST KEEP GOING

One of the best thing about learning game, is freedom. From your own fears and doubt, as much as physical or mental.

I remembered when I laid my first French flag, with a stunningly beautiful brunette with long flowing hair and alabaster skin, how excited I was. Then I lost her and I was all batshit enraged. Then Otto here told me that everything would be fine and in one year I would look back at it with amusement.

Been one year now and I'm with a hotter girl as my girlfriend. Thinking back I had to laugh at how funny it all was.

Sometimes I have doubts. I'm getting older and my old access to hot girl supply is dwindling. What if after this LTR I cant find a girl that meet my standards? What if my game gets rusty and I cant even pull off a basic opener?

I just shove the doubt to the back of my head and went out to my old gaming spot. I felt more alien than before, but I ploughed ahead. Then (as if) it was some magics, hot girls start showing up, I start talking to them and feel my old self returns.

That realization that whatever happens to you, no matter how low you become, whatever twist life takes, you will always be fine, is the most liberating thing in the world. You dont have to worry about a girl leaving you, about growing old, about your game gets rusty.

Its ok to have doubts and fears. You just need to shut up and go out, and just keep going.


2. A girl who did not sleep with you, will not sleep with you.

Beating a dead horse, but I feel it deserves another mention. I've never seen anyone done it successfully, or in a way that preserves your dignity and effort. Then again I'm not that good yet. More often than not, the truth is, if she did not sleep with you, she is more likely the one with a problem.

Don't burn any bridge because sometimes things happen, but dont bet your house on it.

3. If you cheat on your girl/wife, the relationship wasn't as strong as you think. Or you didn't like her as much as you thought. I've seen even my die-hard mentor who is as redpill as hot blood getting into a relationship, and I can say one thing: people in happy relationship self-police.

It think Beyond Borders talked about this somewhere, but only now do I realize how much this is true. You can be as alpha as you like, but if you cheat in a LTR, you need to question why you are in one in the first place, and prepare for it to end, for the better for both of you (assuming the girl you are with is good and deserving)

I cheated in my previous LTR and didn't feel one tinge of regret when she broke it off. Was happy to return to the hunt, then I realized there had not been a LTR since the start.

With my current LTR, I still game when I get the chance so I dont get rusty, but just when Im about to reach the point of no return, I cut the girl off, unconciously. I find it funny to use girl's line like "I'm gonna go get my friends" then disappear. Did I find them attractive? yes. WB? Repeatedly. Did I regret cutting them off? Not one bit.

[cholula]

There's a lot of solid wisdom in this thread. Would be a good idea to take some of the most poignant points in here, condense them into a list, and review them every morning during coffee.

[jbkunt2]

This thread is inspiring, insightful, timeless.

In it, to win it.

[ZanMack]

Just started getting into Game and searching through the forums and I've stumbled onto this thread, so I'm bumping it. As such, I don't have advice on game but I can share my first red pill moment as it were.

I was in a club a couple of months ago, quite late in the night, after hours place. Ended up seeing a nice chica on her own so approached, got her up dancing and making out for a bit. Anyway go to close and manage to get her outside the club before she stops me from getting us in a taxi: "I can't go home with you, you'll think I'm a slut.". Try and convince her, and I eventually get her to at least go back in the club with me, thought maybe a few more shots would do the trick. Anyway 15 minutes or so later, mid-snog she whispers in my ear "my boyfriend will be here soon, its best you leave me alone". Wtf moment freaked me out and I went off to search for someone else, highly aware of my lack of time. Anyway 20 mins later her boyfriend comes and starts slow dancing with her, all the while licking her lips at me.

It was my first experience of this kind of blatant shit, honestly I felt sorry for the guy. No doubt she does that shit on a regular basis.

[LeoneVolpe]

A big red pill moment for me was discovering it can be easier to get pussy from a total stranger than your own girlfriend. Don't put up with a girl who is not putting out.

[Graft]

Game is just one giant war of who cares the least and who has the most options.

When I was younger and just starting in the game I used to get heated when girls flaked on me or shot me down at the bar. This only confirmed that I had no other options.

Girl flakes or gives you shit? I don't care, next, cultivate other girls.

LTR wants to go on girls night out? Ghost her for the night, go out and get an SNL.

Emotionally investing in a woman is perceived as weak and needy. The only way to pass shit tests is to keep options open and not care about the outcome of the relationship. Once a girl knows that she's your only option, you're doomed.

[Griprip08]

"Women are an accessory to Man's success in life."

This did it for me right here ^

[griffinmill]

Girls like to be treated rough during sex.

Chocking, slapping, hair-pulling, etc. There's no end to the depravity. I never came up with this shit on my own, I'd been asked on one or two occasions to fulfil these requests.

Talking to my buddies about this a few weeks back and they were shocked to hear this, and were adamant it's only trash that would tolerate this. I tried to explain that female psychology is kind of universal, and that dominance is something they all respond to, but they were unconvinced.

[Mercenary]

(05-03-2017 05:28 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  

Girls like to be treated rough during sex.

Chocking, slapping, hair-pulling, etc. There's no end to the depravity. I never came up with this shit on my own, I'd been asked on one or two occasions to fulfil these requests.

Talking to my buddies about this a few weeks back and they were shocked to hear this, and were adamant it's only trash that would tolerate this. I tried to explain that female psychology is kind of universal, and that dominance is something they all respond to, but they were unconvinced.

...and that's why their women cheat on them with a guy who actually does these things.

[Vladimir Poontang]

If you need to study game, you're in the wrong country.

[MaceTyrell]

Giving a lot of yourself to a woman is a recipe for disaster. Even the woman will come to resent you for it.

[LeoneVolpe]

NEVER ask permission to kiss. Just fucking do it.

[Kid Twist]

(05-03-2017 05:56 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  

If you need to study game, you're in the wrong country.

Genius

[stugatz]

In high school, I was at a new school and putting together a new social life. I led on and sort of dated a girl I wasn't that into because I wanted to screw her hotter cousin (who genuinely liked me and flirted with me relentlessly...especially when she found out I'd started hooking up with her cousin). Having zero game and being overeager, I tried immediately dumping girl 1 and switching to girl 2 - and it all blew up in my face. Both girls stopped talking to me, I lost every single friend I'd had in girl 1's social circle, and the whole school knew about it, which led to me having to find friends elsewhere for the rest of high school. I learned what I thought was a valuable lesson from this - don't try to weasel your way into sex, girls find out and you get what's coming to you.

Fast forward to about three years ago. I was going to a convention with a carful of other college kids, and the guy driving all of us was the clear alpha male of the group, hitting on the girl sitting beside him the whole time. (Which led to me thinking, "cool, I'll screw the cuter 7 with the big titties next to me when she sees her friend getting laid and gets horny.") Anyway, toward the end of the night, the girl he'd been hitting on went off with other friends and he used the opportunity to switch over to and hit on the 7. The whole time I was in the group, he started hitting on her more and more aggressively, and in this indirect way where he'd talk about other girls he liked (her friend especially) while doing stuff like sitting her down on his lap.

I quickly left to go off to a bar myself - this was clearly going in a certain direction and I didn't want to cockblock him. Unsurprisingly, he screwed her within the next hour - but later I found out he'd liked her better the entire time, and just used the first girl to get to her. I had a blue-screen-of-death moment when I found that out - this was the EXACT THING I'd tried to do in high school, but for him it worked! (He later ended up sleeping with the first girl, too, which added to how gobsmacked I was.)

At that point I realized, men who are attractive to women can get away with almost anything, double if they're alpha males with charisma. The reason I lost three-quarters of my friends in high school wasn't because I broke the rules and acted like a weasel - it was because I was a gamma male who broke the rules and acted like a weasel. It took me months to come to terms with this, but I to this day consider it a turning point in my life.