[Kingsley Davis]

(04-13-2013 03:26 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Have you guys praising this older woman's looks every felt an older woman?

Just look at an older woman who is wearing a sleeveless shirt.

It's disgusting.

Skin has no collagen or elasticity, there's no firmness, there are lumps from collagen breakdown.

This chick is gross.

Does that guy deserve better? Well in this world you keep what you kill.

If he's too big of a pussy to go overseas, he deserves to be turned down by bottom scrappings like her.

Fatality.

[MrXY]

You guys who think that this woman should be happy to get any man who will have her just don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Basil and Broken Arrow are right-there is plenty of demand for this type of woman. I don't date 50+ women but I come across quite a few in my social circle and they get a lot of attention from men, including younger men. So there's plenty of fuel for the turbo hamster: "I've still got it!"

I know one woman who must be 60 who has money and has had a bunch of plastic surgery and who has a 35 year old "boyfriend". I know another 47 year old who has two guys in their twenties she can call on for sex any time she wants it. Betas in their 40s through their 60s or 70s are all over single women this age who are still passable looking.


Where they ARE delusional however, is in thinking that they can get a good looking, fit, successful alpha guy around their own age for a relationship. Those guys can and do get much younger women, even in the US. I'm 50 and have dates this week with a 30 and a 35 year old. A 28 year old who recently appeared in one of the major "hot girls of the day" type websites kept texting me earlier this week wanting me to join her on the beach. A 33 year old former beauty queen keeps asking me to go on a cruise with her. And I'm not even rich- I see how well guys like me who have the money for a great pad and a nice boat are doing, and they are getting very hot, much younger ass no problem.

So why would they want to get involved with one of these women? They don't. I notice 45+ (45 is pretty much my limit unless they are exceptional) broads eye fucking me hard frequently-like a hungry dog looks at a piece of meat. I've actually learned from them how a young hot woman must feel at getting stared at by betas all the time- in one sense it's an ego boost but in the other it's an insult- it pisses you off that the starers think they are in your league. I hate to use the word but it can be well- creepy.

However-I've been thinking I can maybe turn this to my advantage. Quite close to me there's a large communty that ranges from affluent to very wealthy- a bunch of celebrities have homes there. There's plenty of these older broads there that have piles of unearned money-either from dead or divorce-raped husbands. Might be time for some Pusscrook game

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(04-13-2013 03:26 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Have you guys praising this older woman's looks every felt an older woman?

Just look at an older woman who is wearing a sleeveless shirt.

It's disgusting.

Skin has no collagen or elasticity, there's no firmness, there are lumps from collagen breakdown.

This chick is gross.

Does that guy deserve better? Well in this world you keep what you kill.

If he's too big of a pussy to go overseas, he deserves to be turned down by bottom scrappings like her.

I'll agree with you here, but with one modification:
"Have you guys praising this older woman's looks every SMELLED an older woman?"

One of my exes, who was a hippie-type, used to go on about "old people's smell." It's hard to define but you know it when you're in the vicinity. It ain't like the way the air hangs with sensuality when a twenty-four year old breezes by, that's for sure.

[Vicious]

Her standards should be on the level of getting mercy fucked.

[Vicious]

Her standards should be on the level of mercy fuck.

[ryanf]

(04-13-2013 03:10 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 10:47 AM)basilransom Wrote:  

This woman was probably top 5% material or better in her youth, now she's what, top 0.5% in her age bracket?

Edit: After reading the article, it's apparent he wasn't good looking enough for her:

She's easily a point higher than him on the looks scale,

Yes. She looks better than many 38-year-olds. He is bald and slightly overweight (triathlete my ass). He dresses like a dork. For her age in D.C. she is an 8 or 9, while he is a 4.

Carla: a really good date would have been someone where you [say] let’s go here, continue the night. And someone I was really attracted to physically would have made it a great date.

(04-13-2013 02:00 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

I hate to be the bearer of bad news to the manosphere guys of the future, but women's standards don't change with age. If anything they get raised.

It's only in their mid-fifties and beyond women drop the standards.

Yes, attractive women who take care of themselves can look pretty good at 40. The hot ones are the worst, because they become accustomed to worship in their twenties and thirties. They may spend much of their thirties and forties in a relationship and be "off the market". Then it takes a decade of being ignored before they realize the problem is not the bad market or bad geography, the problem is their appearance. By then it is too late.

My best analogy is the finances of athletes. They make a ton of money in their twenties and thirties and feel like it will last forever. Then the money runs out like a woman's youth and beauty, and they go financially or romantically broke.

You know what they say, athletes and beautiful women die two deaths.

[ryanf]

(04-13-2013 04:49 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 03:26 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Have you guys praising this older woman's looks every felt an older woman?

Just look at an older woman who is wearing a sleeveless shirt.

It's disgusting.

Skin has no collagen or elasticity, there's no firmness, there are lumps from collagen breakdown.

This chick is gross.

Does that guy deserve better? Well in this world you keep what you kill.

If he's too big of a pussy to go overseas, he deserves to be turned down by bottom scrappings like her.

I'll agree with you here, but with one modification:
"Have you guys praising this older woman's looks every SMELLED an older woman?"

One of my exes, who was a hippie-type, used to go on about "old people's smell." It's hard to define but you know it when you're in the vicinity. It ain't like the way the air hangs with sensuality when a twenty-four year old breezes by, that's for sure.

It's the smell of dying.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Just found her Facebook page. Let's just say she photographs well...sometimes. But I don't think this a woman any of us would notice in person, unless we were pretty drunk.

Also on her Facebook page she posted a note some guy left her asking her out. Another ego freak. Do any guys do this sort of thing? All I see on FB is women going apeshit over themselves. It's unbecoming.

[Basil Ransom]

Is a fat chick "delusional" for rejecting you? It all depends on what she can get elsewhere. In Ukraine, it's safe to say yes. If you're stuck in an army barracks in Afghanistan, or in prison, and she's the only chick available to a hundred men? No. Is offering water to people stranded in a desert for $100 a gallon delusional? No, it's opportunistic. The law of supply and demand doesn't care about what you think 'should' be.

Some people want to believe that there's no romantic future for women who got past her prime without getting married, or women who divorced. For a woman like this, who looks good for her age, that's just not true. There are willing men. You may want to believe there aren't, as 'punishment' for her being too choosy or entitled in her youth, but if the ratio of available attractive women to men is low enough, the party never stops for her.

[Aliblahba]

(04-13-2013 05:11 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Is a fat chick "delusional" for rejecting you? It all depends where. In Ukraine, it's safe to say yes. If you're stuck in an army barracks in Afghanistan, or in prison, and she's the only chick available to a hundred men? No. Is offering water to people stranded in a desert for $100 a gallon delusional? No, it's opportunistic. The law of supply and demand doesn't care about what you think 'should' be.

Some people want to believe that there's no romantic future for women who got past her prime without getting married, or women who divorced. For a woman like this, who looks good for her age, that's just not true. There are willing men. You may want to believe there aren't, as 'punishment' for her being too choosy or entitled in her youth, but if the ratio of available attractive women to men is low enough, the party never stops for her.

The party stopped 10 years ago when her pussy dried up. How is it a turn on to have to use astroglide every time during sex? She's outlived her usefulness in the dating market.

[Basil Ransom]

(04-13-2013 05:14 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 05:11 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Is a fat chick "delusional" for rejecting you? It all depends where. In Ukraine, it's safe to say yes. If you're stuck in an army barracks in Afghanistan, or in prison, and she's the only chick available to a hundred men? No. Is offering water to people stranded in a desert for $100 a gallon delusional? No, it's opportunistic. The law of supply and demand doesn't care about what you think 'should' be.

Some people want to believe that there's no romantic future for women who got past her prime without getting married, or women who divorced. For a woman like this, who looks good for her age, that's just not true. There are willing men. You may want to believe there aren't, as 'punishment' for her being too choosy or entitled in her youth, but if the ratio of available attractive women to men is low enough, the party never stops for her.

The party stopped 10 years ago when her pussy dried up. How is it a turn on to have to use astroglide every time during sex? She's outlived her usefulness in the dating market.

The party stops when the suitors stop coming. As this article attests, this hasn't happened yet.

Lol, what if you guys had to read the story of Odysseus after never hearing of it before? "This story is retarded, no guys would be caught dead trying to tap some dude's 40 year old wife." "Bitch is an entitled cunt for rejecting all those suitors. Those dudes could get crazy Athenian pussy if they tried."

[tenderman100]

(04-13-2013 10:34 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

Where's tenderman?

Right here. Do you need some wisdom?

[tenderman100]

Gents, the hamster NEVER dies.

It has marathon endurance. It goes and goes and goes and goes.

[MikeCF]

(04-13-2013 05:11 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Is a fat chick "delusional" for rejecting you? It all depends on what she can get elsewhere. In Ukraine, it's safe to say yes. If you're stuck in an army barracks in Afghanistan, or in prison, and she's the only chick available to a hundred men? No. Is offering water to people stranded in a desert for $100 a gallon delusional? No, it's opportunistic. The law of supply and demand doesn't care about what you think 'should' be.

Some people want to believe that there's no romantic future for women who got past her prime without getting married, or women who divorced. For a woman like this, who looks good for her age, that's just not true. There are willing men. You may want to believe there aren't, as 'punishment' for her being too choosy or entitled in her youth, but if the ratio of available attractive women to men is low enough, the party never stops for her.

Damn, bro, you sound thirsty.

Why don't you just write the Date Lab people and try getting her #?

[MikeCF]

(04-13-2013 04:49 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

I'll agree with you here, but with one modification:
"Have you guys praising this older woman's looks every SMELLED an older woman?"

One of my exes, who was a hippie-type, used to go on about "old people's smell." It's hard to define but you know it when you're in the vicinity. It ain't like the way the air hangs with sensuality when a twenty-four year old breezes by, that's for sure.

Phermones, bro. I always smell the neck. A girl must pass the Smell the Neck Test.

Incidentally, most younger girls smell nasty. Their diet of processed foods and alcohol and cigarettes are poisoning them.

One of the best smelling girls was a yoga chick into kale shakes and green drinks.

Go meet a girl in her early 30s who sweats every day, and replaces the lost fluids when clean foods, vegetables, green juices, etc. and compare her to a younger girl who parties. It's pretty telling.

Of course, past 40 or so, a girl's candle has burned out. Up until a certain age, though, older girls can best younger girls.

Your own smell as a man changes. It's not coincidental that when you feel good (high testosterone and other hormones are pulsating through) women respond differently to you. It's not just your body language. Your body is giving off a better/stronger smell.

Best way to pick up girls is to sweat every day. That gets all the junk out that's under your skin and messing up your pheromone smell.

Then rehydrated with green tea, kale shakes, green juices.

Game changer.

[Basil Ransom]

(04-13-2013 05:23 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 05:11 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Is a fat chick "delusional" for rejecting you? It all depends on what she can get elsewhere. In Ukraine, it's safe to say yes. If you're stuck in an army barracks in Afghanistan, or in prison, and she's the only chick available to a hundred men? No. Is offering water to people stranded in a desert for $100 a gallon delusional? No, it's opportunistic. The law of supply and demand doesn't care about what you think 'should' be.

Some people want to believe that there's no romantic future for women who got past her prime without getting married, or women who divorced. For a woman like this, who looks good for her age, that's just not true. There are willing men. You may want to believe there aren't, as 'punishment' for her being too choosy or entitled in her youth, but if the ratio of available attractive women to men is low enough, the party never stops for her.

Damn, bro, you sound thirsty.

Why don't you just write the Date Lab people and try getting her #?

I like your feminine style of argument, it really suits you.

Quote:

Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) – The Sour Grapes Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of explaining away his own failures and/or dissatisfaction by blaming women for his problems. Example:

•“You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.”

Response: In this case, it must be asked if it really matters how one arrives at the truth. In other words, one may submit to the accuser, “What if the grapes really are sour?” At any rate, the Code Purple shaming tactic is an example of what is called “circumstantial ad hominem.”

[MikeCF]

(04-13-2013 04:14 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

I know one woman who must be 60 who has money and has had a bunch of plastic surgery and who has a 35 year old "boyfriend". I know another 47 year old who has two guys in their twenties she can call on for sex any time she wants it. Betas in their 40s through their 60s or 70s are all over single women this age who are still passable looking.

A 60 year old without cash isn't dating any 35 year old hard bodies, though.

There have always been gigalos.

I tell the younger guys under my wing to find an older lady to buy them nice clothes, take out to nice diners, vacations, and introduce them to the good life.

Then have young playthings.

Some guys think it's beneath them to have women buy them stuff. I think it's the opposite. Women buying you stuff = pimp game.

[NYJ]

That woman is further proof that the game never ends.

[RandalGraves]

(04-13-2013 12:04 PM)polymath Wrote:  

From the article it sounds like they're two cool people who just didn't vibe together sexually or romantically.

Age doesn't necessarily dominate every other factor.

Here's the dude BTW.

That shirt/tie combonation is making my eyes hurt. I blame places like Kohl's for making people think that you're supposed to match your shirt to the color of your tie. Plus the jumbling of patterns is painful to look at.

[MikeCF]

(04-13-2013 05:30 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

I like your feminine style of argument, it really suits you.

More like Shakespearean.

"Basilrandom doth protest too much, methinks."

Bro...If you're going on and on about how great this girl is and how many options she has...Don't you think guys are gonna (rationally) infer that your own standards are pretty low?

Chick is gross. Period. Can she get gross guys with no options who are dead beat losers? Sure.

But that's not really the theme here. We're not trying to look at things from the angle of losers. We are elevating our vantage point.

Now, don't get me wrong. I like to argue/verbally spar for its own sake. It's fun. So if that's what you're doing, "Game recognize game."

But the way you and Divorco and some other guys go at it, it really makes me wonder what the hell is up with you guys.

You guys really seem to go out of your way to advocate on behalf of past their prime hags. Of all the things to play devil's advocate over...That's what you choose?

[frogmallet]

(04-13-2013 05:14 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 05:11 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Is a fat chick "delusional" for rejecting you? It all depends where. In Ukraine, it's safe to say yes. If you're stuck in an army barracks in Afghanistan, or in prison, and she's the only chick available to a hundred men? No. Is offering water to people stranded in a desert for $100 a gallon delusional? No, it's opportunistic. The law of supply and demand doesn't care about what you think 'should' be.

Some people want to believe that there's no romantic future for women who got past her prime without getting married, or women who divorced. For a woman like this, who looks good for her age, that's just not true. There are willing men. You may want to believe there aren't, as 'punishment' for her being too choosy or entitled in her youth, but if the ratio of available attractive women to men is low enough, the party never stops for her.

The party stopped 10 years ago when her pussy dried up. How is it a turn on to have to use astroglide every time during sex? She's outlived her usefulness in the dating market.

This is a great point that younger guys can't imagine. Her pussy is so dry, she'll be in pain after you fuck her vigorously for a few minutes. She'll be done fucking after one round. This is why she's dating a 51 year old guy, because he'll be done too, unless he's taking Cialis (which he isn't doing if he's dating a 53 year old woman).

[Roosh]

I think it's time MikeCF and basil put each other on ignore. I will delete any further attack posts.

[rudebwoy]

Sadly, I see alot of this attitude in Toronto. Women who are simply too old, single moms or fat with inflated ego's which seem to be getting fed.

[Aliblahba]

(04-13-2013 06:03 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I think it's time MikeCF and basil put each other on ignore. I will delete any further attack posts.

These West Coast guys gotta learn to get along. These problems never go down from us on the other side. We know what's up.

[Kingsley Davis]

(04-13-2013 06:03 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I think it's time MikeCF and basil put each other on ignore. I will delete any further attack posts.

Say it ain't so Roosh, atleast for the lollzzz.