[Screwston]

When and why the fuck did everything change? Straight guys are defending fags and tranny's, fatties are getting angry over airlines wanting to charge more for seats, so many people are scared to think for themselves and actually have a different opinion because it might be offensive, I can't say "retard" to describe someone being stupid and would probably be expelled from high school, gays are all over tv and kissing because it would hurt their feelings if they weren't included, etc.

[TheCaptainPower]

I agree, it is getting really bad. I think the market crash a couple years ago added to it, socialism started to reappear.

[NYJ]

I think a good portion of people have non politically correct thoughts, but they're afraid to say what's on their mind.

[A War You Cannot Win]

Cultural indoctrination. Mind intermission, there came the salvation for the masses. Subdue diversity of thought and free thinking, implement your own ideology. People will submit and follow or else

[WesternCancer]

They're too scared they'd have to defend their opinion so they follow everyone else's

[A War You Cannot Win]

A wise man once said 'Most men desire not liberty, but a just master'. What's more just than absolute tolerance and acceptance for every deviancy.

[megatron]

Because Socialism + Diversity = PC Bullshit.

[speakeasy]

We're in the era of Obama. The cultural left is riding high and emboldened. A black president that supports gay marriage. That's a liberals wet dream.

[MikeCF]

(04-11-2013 09:07 PM)megatron Wrote:  

Because Socialism + Diversity = PC Bullshit.

I say, "I don't respect the police," or, "The War in Iraq is pointless."

Republicans are going to scream bloody murder about not supporting the troops.

Or don't you remember the run-up to the war in Iraq?

Both sides work the PC angle. Their PC truths are just different.

Liberals expect you to lick the boots of women and minorities.

Conservatives expect you to lick the boots of police officers, the military, and other authority figures.

But it's two sides of the same coin.

[Sombro]

A shitty economy make people more afraid of losing their jobs, hence their reticence on calling out BS. Even moreso if they have a wife and kids.

I know guys like this who fume but have to bite their tongue.

It sucks. I'm convinced the worst thing in the world is trying to be the responsible adult man while your ability to do that is predicated on violating your own ethics.

rock, hard place, etc

[megatron]

(04-11-2013 09:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(04-11-2013 09:07 PM)megatron Wrote:  

Because Socialism + Diversity = PC Bullshit.

I say, "I don't respect the police," or, "The War in Iraq is pointless."

Republicans are going to scream bloody murder about not supporting the troops.

Or don't you remember the run-up to the war in Iraq?

Both sides work the PC angle. Their PC truths are just different.

Liberals expect you to lick the boots of women and minorities.

Conservatives expect you to lick the boots of police officers, the military, and other authority figures.

But it's two sides of the same coin.

Where did you see me exclusively ascribe a heavily authoritarian, Socialist viewpoint only to Democrats? The War on Drugs, the War on Terror, The Bank Bailout, etc = all Socialist thievery and mayhem and all supported by the the GOP.

[Tex Pro]

My worry is how far will this PC crap get?

Shit could get a lot worse.

[Screwston]

(04-11-2013 09:19 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

My worry is how far will this PC crap get?

Shit could get a lot worse.

Yes, how will it be in 20 or 30 years?

[Wadsworth]

The value underlying this behavior is sensitivity. The people who promote PC language want to validate everyone's views and identities equally. As a result, they want to ensure no language is used that would "marginalize" any particular view or identity. It's gone way off the rails though, because PC dogma now has a non-sensitivity conformist following that doesn't understand it's fundamentally about sensitivity, and turns it into an absolute.

[RawGod]

I think that the cultural tipping point came in Obama's first term, when a critical mass of white males decided to flop their wheat-bloated, estrogenated selves over to the dark side, with a sigh half of relief and half of self-loathing. It had finally become of more perceived benefit for the "oppressors" to become the enforcers of correct thinking rather than to just go their own way, relatively secure in family and work life. That traditional way has just evaporated in the 21st century.

With the gutted economy, people are frustrated and feel helpless, so the role of victim or enforcer of morals becomes seductively empowering. It's similar to poor Islamic countries where people have few economic options - many turn to fundamentalism to give them a feeling of agency.

Social media has also contributed greatly to this: people can now indulge in a circle-jerk of outrage from anywhere, and get positive reinforcement.

[A War You Cannot Win]

I hope shit does get a lot worse. I'm at the point where I feel virtually no compunction at all for selfishly living for myself and using/dominating other people for my profit. It is pleasurable and amusing and I don't even see most people who buy into this 'diversity or else' cultural phenomenon as people. They're more like pieces on a chessboard to be conquered for me.

[Matt Forney]

Women. Or more accurately, women and their white knight supporters.

Political correctness is an outgrowth of the female way of thinking, where feelings trump facts and consensus-gathering is more important than speaking the truth. The very purpose of PC is to neuter language to avoid possibly hurting someone's feeeeeelings, which is precisely how women act, and is antithetical to the way men talk and behave. If you've ever worked in a blue-collar, male-dominated environment (as opposed to more female-friendly office/white-collar work), you've experienced this first-hand.

Quote:

Political correctness is not only nonexistent in male spaces, it’s completely alien. In a gang, men freely speak the truth without worrying whether or not it will offend their comrades. They aren’t needlessly dickish or antagonistic, but they don’t sugarcoat anything either. There’s a reason for this: not being direct can not only cause the gang to fail in its mission, but get everyone killed. Contrast this with female spaces. Women are generally indirect and beat around the bush; openly attacking or criticizing someone is a big no-no.

The increased power of women in politics and business is correlated with the rise of political correctness:

Quote:

An inflexible, authoritarian, shout-them-down tendency is often said to be a feature of PC-think generally. PC-driven marches and protests (on campuses for example ) typically are meant not to broaden a discourse but, rather, to repel or suppress an unwanted speaker — much as a mother, without any pretense of democracy or debate, would try to protect her children from an unwanted influence. (“Because I said so!”)

For those of you who are into evo-psych/evo-biology, Anonymous Conservative has a pretty compelling theory that says something similar.

Tl;dr: PC exists because of women and feminized men.

[megatron]

Matt's right. The root of the problem was letting women vote. But diversity plays a huge role in this. Since women piggybacked on the plight of Blacks, they became successful in almost equating sexism with racism. And now they've done so with homophobia, fat-phobia, etc.

If you look at more homogenous socieities (mostly one race/nationality), like in most European countries for example, xenophobia is much more accepted.

[soup]

(04-11-2013 09:36 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

Women. Or more accurately, women and their white knight supporters.

Political correctness is an outgrowth of the female way of thinking, where feelings trump facts and consensus-gathering is more important than speaking the truth. The very purpose of PC is to neuter language to avoid possibly hurting someone's feeeeeelings, which is precisely how women act, and is antithetical to the way men talk and behave. If you've ever worked in a blue-collar, male-dominated environment (as opposed to more female-friendly office/white-collar work), you've experienced this first-hand.

Quote:

Political correctness is not only nonexistent in male spaces, it’s completely alien. In a gang, men freely speak the truth without worrying whether or not it will offend their comrades. They aren’t needlessly dickish or antagonistic, but they don’t sugarcoat anything either. There’s a reason for this: not being direct can not only cause the gang to fail in its mission, but get everyone killed. Contrast this with female spaces. Women are generally indirect and beat around the bush; openly attacking or criticizing someone is a big no-no.

The increased power of women in politics and business is correlated with the rise of political correctness:

Quote:

An inflexible, authoritarian, shout-them-down tendency is often said to be a feature of PC-think generally. PC-driven marches and protests (on campuses for example ) typically are meant not to broaden a discourse but, rather, to repel or suppress an unwanted speaker — much as a mother, without any pretense of democracy or debate, would try to protect her children from an unwanted influence. (“Because I said so!”)

For those of you who are into evo-psych/evo-biology, Anonymous Conservative has a pretty compelling theory that says something similar.

Tl;dr: PC exists because of women and feminized men.

Caveman times: females benefit from group cohesion. Turbulence in a group meant trouble for her. PC could be a direct projection of a woman's hind-brain fears on to the public sphere.

This is another reason why you have to get down with a group before you talk to your target. You can't be neglected the chiefs of her tribe. That's an insult to the group. To get girls you have to approach them as part of a greater whole.

That's why I don't really consider myself to be single; I'm in a monogamous relationship with the collective consciousness of womankind.

[Eirykr]

I believe it is driven primarily by Marxist ideologues in university. This isn't just FOX News paranoia either, I've been through a lot of liberal arts and softer science course work in my time at college. Even one of my Philosophy department's professors was an outspoken Marxist and there were classes on Marxist theory. Now that everyone is pushed to go to college, those ideas have trickled down through the culture as a whole.

If you aren't a part of the Left in academia then at worst your grades will suffer and at best you will be a curious outlier that people treat with amused dismissal. I can remember arguing some very basic Men's Rights issues in one of the Gender/Race indoctrination classes I was required to take as part of my general education.

Amazingly a few of the cuter girls in the class really latched on to the things I was arguing and agreed with me. Even concepts like financial abortions for fathers seemed reasonable to them, but the female professor kept shutting down my suggestions for papers. The whole process was both frustrating but amusing at the same time. She really had no arguments to counter my views, but I knew I would have to tow the line if I wanted to graduate, so I chose a less gender/race charged subject and wrote something about poor Appalachian people or something.

I, like many people with an open and working mind realized that you have to just shut up and say the words they want to hear and you'll get A's. But that process utterly disillusioned me and woke me up early and made me all the more open to Red Pill philosophy.

[Hannibal]

PC is an means to an end. The end is that a lot of people out there want to feel morally superior so they can sit on their fucking high horses and rend judgement on those who don't belong. Their intolerance is aimed towards groups that are naturally intolerant. A lot of manginas go with PC to get scraps of attention from fat cunts prove how not like all those other men they are.

PC was not caused by women. It was surely lobbied by women (they seek to make the workplace more comfortable, rather than to actually get shit done), but in the end, it was enabled by white knights and congressmen who wanted votes.

A lot of PC language stems from the genetic failures of most feminists. Terms that normalize abnormal sexual behavior and demonize male behavior at the same time (such as "cis-male", male privilege).

[bacon]

Mr. Bean lays some truth down

“Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face.” Charlton Heston

[Lemmo]

Rampant narcissism = increasing demands that society acknowledge, approve, accommodate and applaud "me"
Moral relativism = no one can judge anyone else so no negative consequences should stem from, for example, me being a fat pig, lazy, dumb, ugly, etc.
Grievance industry enforcers = fringe left ideologues gain power, prestige and money through making increasingly extreme demands, seeking out real and imagined violators of PC and ensuring that such transgressors are punished, ostracized, fired, etc.
Redirected puritanism = religion is dead and real accomplishments are hard so people gain self-esteem, a false sense of accomplishment and a feeling of superiority through wagging fingers at violations of PC.

[Major Tom]

It's a good thing we still have men like this who aren't afraid of ruffling feathers and sticking it to the liberal establishment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA

[Galnuc69]

(04-11-2013 09:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(04-11-2013 09:07 PM)megatron Wrote:  

Because Socialism + Diversity = PC Bullshit.

I say, "I don't respect the police," or, "The War in Iraq is pointless."

Republicans are going to scream bloody murder about not supporting the troops.

Or don't you remember the run-up to the war in Iraq?

Both sides work the PC angle. Their PC truths are just different.

Liberals expect you to lick the boots of women and minorities.

Conservatives expect you to lick the boots of police officers, the military, and other authority figures.

But it's two sides of the same coin.

I gave you a rep for truth.

The fact is, most humans are betas and omegas, they are pack animals. Either, they are too afraid to take risks to get ahead, because they might fail and stand out from the herd. They would rather live lives of regret right in the middle of the herd, wondering what might have been and just shrugging it off. Either that, or they simply aren't smart enough to make and follow their own rules, and take comfort by living the dictates of others. Both groups are driven by fear of the approval of the herd and fear of their "leaders". They live for others before themselves. The only thing they respect is power they will never have, and an iron boot coming down on them that they can never wear.