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What is wrong with sexually liberated women again?
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What is wrong with sexually liberated women again?

I read something the other day on a manosphere blog (I think it was Dalrock, can't remember).

The kind of women your grandfather married and stayed with was the kind of woman your grandmother was.

So yeah, you raise a good point. It's not necessarily easier to fuck these emancipated women (Roosh touched on this several times), but they have much fewer qualms about no-strings-attached sex. They put a lower priority on their notch count. Spit some good game and get a couple drinks in her and you're good to go. That's good if you want to get laid.

If you actually want to marry them, remember, they have higher standards for men and they usually aren't worth the investment of these better men. Obviously, I'm not referring to Provider McBetason the factory worker when I bring this up. As H. L. Mencken says, a woman would much rather be the fifth woman in a first rate man's harem than be the first wife of a fifth rate man's marriage. Women feel like genetic failures if they raise Homer Simpson's kids and they will fuck around on him given the opportunity to do so in order to give some of her offspring a better chance for success. The female mind is actually very rational in this respect.

It's just that women nowadays do not weigh these opportunity costs. What do they value? Marriage with a provider, or sex with a capable man who will (very likely) not commit to them? These women can provide for themselves economically, so which do they pick? The answer is obvious.

What they can't do (and what they ultimately would want after they hit about 28) is get a man who will stick around to raise the children that they want to have. Once that tipping point happens where the majority of these provider males do not want to marry these sluts, then the game changes. Even betas have standards for marriage because it's a very, very large investment on the man's part. It takes longer for the men to wise up to that shit, but once they do, women will (very quickly) change their behavior.

So to answer your question, what's wrong with emancipated women, I'll say "nothing". It simply depends on your priorities. Do you want to live the life of the eternal bachelor, or would you like to have a family at some point? Some men would really rather not invest decades of their time to figure out how to give a girl the 'gina tingles. Some men think that marriage would suffocate them. This day and age, the eternal bachelor option is much more attractive than it used to be.

A system where the women are more marriage oriented (and more marriage committed) makes for a happier society. Cads will be cads (and by virtue of their own skill, rarely have problems getting laid), but ultimately, this form of "sexual socialism" ensures that the majority of men get laid. Most men are better off not knowing what their wives are capable of and would do given the option. Most women are better off cashing in their chips and marrying than they are spending the rest of their lives as spinsters. Children are always better off living in intact families where they learn how men and women are supposed to act in order to keep a family together.

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What is wrong with sexually liberated women again?

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What the hell? You think we'd wife-up or LTR-up some American actress just because of her status and that she can pass as a 9 with her hair professionally made up? Have you ever been to a country outside North America and met a 20 year old 9 who needs no makeup and has had sex only with her high school boyfriend? No American "famous or semi-famous" woman with an N of 20 can compare.

You have no clue with your celebrity worshipping.

I was lazy with my post. I was not eluding to celebrity worship. I should have been more precise. How about the "Best & the Brightest?"

The type of woman that really has it all- looks, intelligence, accomplishment, personality, and courage. The type of woman that makes 80% of all men look like weak pussies with no direction, or conviction.

Granted such a woman is a rare thing ...
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Dude, fuck the ability to keep your wife happy. You're from America. You should know enough dumbass men who parrot the whole "Happy wife, happy life" slogan and they're pretty much tripping over themselves to please their wives to the detriment of both husband and wife. That shit doesn't work and it never has. The more a husband acquiesces, the more the wife despises his lack of backbone and takes advantage of him. These men are fucking miserable and they hate their lives.

Well, I am FROM the USA, but I have lived abroad for at least 50% of every of the last five years. So, when I am in the US, I prefer fetish models - at least they are kinky and honest.

The idea of dating an American woman for the purpose of marriage ... feels like it would be a jail sentence. BUT I AM 49 YEARS OLD. That makes a little bit of a difference. Guys in my situation are living a second life - a DO OVER.

I do not necessarily disagree with your long post - but, I wonder sometimes if that type of thinking would be defeatist for a "Best & Brightest" male? I clearly see the shortcomings - believe me! I have only seen a handful of women in the last 2 months that have been thin, feminine, with attractive personalities. There is slim pickens in the US. Plus, the way society values a man is fucked too.

OK - I have thought about it enough. You are right! Only professional athletes with game, fame, and lotsa money have a decent shot in the US.
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