[Rocco81]

Dude...exactly. You know what I figured out. Living around mostly central Americans here en mi Barrio They all say that we American (esp the girls) are too liberal and open with sex. Funny thing is, they say this shit with some skin tight camel toe jeans or shorts, licking their lips and eyeing a dude up.

I have met more than a handful of these chicas that are straight up female players....They have like 3-4 men on the line, paying for their dinners, letting them stay in their crib for free etc. I've had them call me at 2 am, just for one thing (its not like I always hit, becuase Im out cold or out with friends) but a few times I have. Man these chicks are hot blooded...the dudes all tell me not to take one seriously unless you find them in their own country.

**Since I do like my latinas though, I must say that the 25-30% (just a guestimate from my experience) of these girls in my area atleast that are good girls are REAL good girls. I mean I knew this one Mexican girl that would not even look or smile at another man for fear me gettng pissed. She was super loyal. I should have kept her. She was alllll about pleasing her man, cooking, cleaning, great sex, good arm candy and faithful as hell...

[clr]

(07-27-2010 12:46 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Dude...exactly. You know what I figured out. Living around mostly central Americans here en mi Barrio They all say that we American (esp the girls) are too liberal and open with sex. Funny thing is, they say this shit with some skin tight camel toe jeans or shorts, licking their lips and eyeing a dude up.

I have met more than a handful of these chicas that are straight up female players....They have like 3-4 men on the line, paying for their dinners, letting them stay in their crib for free etc. I've had them call me at 2 am, just for one thing (its not like I always hit, becuase Im out cold or out with friends) but a few times I have. Man these chicks are hot blooded...the dudes all tell me not to take one seriously unless you find them in their own country.

**Since I do like my latinas though, I must say that the 25-30% (just a guestimate from my experience) of these girls in my area atleast that are good girls are REAL good girls. I mean I knew this one Mexican girl that would not even look or smile at another man for fear me gettng pissed. She was super loyal. I should have kept her. She was alllll about pleasing her man, cooking, cleaning, great sex, good arm candy and faithful as hell...

They are rare, and I hate to say this, but I had one like that too, I trusted her more then anyone I ever dated.... turned out she just had more game then anyone I ever dated. Gorgeous, super sweet, great personality, amazing sex maybe she wasnt quite a fuck everyone player, but she was sure a player anyway. Turns out she was keeping her ex on the side and after we broke up she goes to cancun with him 2 weeks later (and I found out they were never actually broken up) This is a girl i almost married.

We think if a girl is really nice and cool and respectful and sweet then she's not a play or cheater because we have certain traits we are used to seeing in american women like that.

To add to that, the saying, "if she will cheat with you, she will cheat on you" seems like a pretty good one IME. They live with the passion then they say(as my ex said) I would never tell him I cheated on him, I dont want to hurt him. THATS the justification.

[Lief]

Yes, it's a good point you make about keeping these girls happy in bed. There sexual appetites and standards are much higher than American women. I was recently with a Brazilian girl and I put in a solid 35 minute bang session and I was drenched with sweat. That is 35 minutes of a jackhammer not 15 minutes of slow grinding and 20 minutes of pounding.

Every time I slowed down to catch my breath she told me "don't stop!" When I was finished I honestly got the feeling that this girl wanted a 60-75 minute jackhammer session. I think she was disappointed in my performance and I work out a lot.

The crazy thing is that she was only 21. So I would imagine that if you marry a Braz girl or even a Colomb girl you will have to devote 3-4 nights/wk to a serious bang session. That is unappealing b/c you'll be tired of banging that same pussy. And if you don't service her....you risk her going elsewhere.

[Rocco81]

Maybe its better to let her bang as many dudes as she wants...just charge the mofo's and you make BANK. hahaha...as long as the bitch cleans my house, cooks for me, don't catch the clapton and don't mingle in my various affairs then I think I could work that shit out.

clr - I def. agree with the saying if she will cheat WITH you she will cheat ON you, that is true for any culture. Where was your chica from?

Story: Just the other night this Salvadoran/American was sitting at the bar (moved here at like age 2...so she is ghetto ass American really) pulled her big tits out 2x for tequilla shots etc. She got some chumps to buy her shots and beers all night, then swear to god, she gave my friend a hand job at the bar, just after she said she was in the middle of a Divorce, had a boyfriend and a girlfriend. What a fucking pig this chic was. It was very odd to me how cold and factual this woman was. Didn't even care that it was obvious what she was doing at the bar with a dick in her hand, No shame at all in her game.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

Really? I never knew that Latin tend to cheat in that way. Seriouslly.
And yes, we are demanding about sex.

[Rocco81]

Mrs. Chocolate, my friend in Rio told me that quite a few of her friends go out and hook up with guys all the time..They might not always bang them, but they area atleast out in the bars and clubs letting the tourists/gringos buy them drinks and kiss on them...sometimes to the love motel.

You women are too hot for your own good.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

(07-27-2010 02:08 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Mrs. Chocolate, my friend in Rio told me that quite a few of her friends go out and hook up with guys all the time..They might not always bang them, but they area atleast out in the bars and clubs letting the tourists/gringos buy them drinks and kiss on them...sometimes to the love motel.

You women are too hot for your own good.

Yes, we go out and we enjoy that stuff as much as you do. So? Is that cheating?

[Rocco81]

I guess I thought it was assumed they were taken since we were talking about infidelity... forgot to mention her friends have boyfriends, in which case..

...Fuck yeah its cheating

[Lief]

No I don't think that the Brazilians are more likely to cheat than American women. Just because the girls have a high sexual appetite? It's possible that Brazilian girls might kiss other dudes at the bar but kissing in Brazil is like bumping and grinding in the U.S. It doesn't mean you're gonna bang and it may not have any sexual meaning. As a matter of fact, I'd say that I've only banged 5% of the Brazilian girls that I've kissed.

American women have more of a sense of entitlement than Brazilian girls. They expect everything to be perfect and when it's not they stray because they feel they deserve. I generally find Brazilian girls to be more easy going and content with less and because they don't have U.S. entitlement ideas they are less likely to cheat.

[hydrogonian]

(07-27-2010 10:36 AM)clr Wrote:  

(07-27-2010 12:46 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Dude...exactly. You know what I figured out. Living around mostly central Americans here en mi Barrio They all say that we American (esp the girls) are too liberal and open with sex. Funny thing is, they say this shit with some skin tight camel toe jeans or shorts, licking their lips and eyeing a dude up.

I have met more than a handful of these chicas that are straight up female players....They have like 3-4 men on the line, paying for their dinners, letting them stay in their crib for free etc. I've had them call me at 2 am, just for one thing (its not like I always hit, becuase Im out cold or out with friends) but a few times I have. Man these chicks are hot blooded...the dudes all tell me not to take one seriously unless you find them in their own country.

**Since I do like my latinas though, I must say that the 25-30% (just a guestimate from my experience) of these girls in my area atleast that are good girls are REAL good girls. I mean I knew this one Mexican girl that would not even look or smile at another man for fear me gettng pissed. She was super loyal. I should have kept her. She was alllll about pleasing her man, cooking, cleaning, great sex, good arm candy and faithful as hell...

They are rare, and I hate to say this, but I had one like that too, I trusted her more then anyone I ever dated.... turned out she just had more game then anyone I ever dated. Gorgeous, super sweet, great personality, amazing sex maybe she wasnt quite a fuck everyone player, but she was sure a player anyway. Turns out she was keeping her ex on the side and after we broke up she goes to cancun with him 2 weeks later (and I found out they were never actually broken up) This is a girl i almost married.

We think if a girl is really nice and cool and respectful and sweet then she's not a play or cheater because we have certain traits we are used to seeing in american women like that.

To add to that, the saying, "if she will cheat with you, she will cheat on you" seems like a pretty good one IME. They live with the passion then they say(as my ex said) I would never tell him I cheated on him, I dont want to hurt him. THATS the justification.

This rings home for me as well. Given all of the truth in this, what sane guy would get married or even love a woman? You never, ever know what you are really getting in the deal.

(07-27-2010 11:17 AM)Lief Wrote:  

Yes, it's a good point you make about keeping these girls happy in bed. There sexual appetites and standards are much higher than American women. I was recently with a Brazilian girl and I put in a solid 35 minute bang session and I was drenched with sweat. That is 35 minutes of a jackhammer not 15 minutes of slow grinding and 20 minutes of pounding.

Every time I slowed down to catch my breath she told me "don't stop!" When I was finished I honestly got the feeling that this girl wanted a 60-75 minute jackhammer session. I think she was disappointed in my performance and I work out a lot.

The crazy thing is that she was only 21. So I would imagine that if you marry a Braz girl or even a Colomb girl you will have to devote 3-4 nights/wk to a serious bang session. That is unappealing b/c you'll be tired of banging that same pussy. And if you don't service her....you risk her going elsewhere.

The last American I dated was the exact same way. She was black though, and so maybe its just the white and Asian girls that don't require this. I don't care for it either. I used to have to recover on the bed for ten minutes just to catch my breath. I almost couldn't bag her too hard. Also, I'm not enjoying it because I'm concentrating on how hard I'm banging her. the thing is, I know that I can give women multiple orgasms doing it my way. However, that didn't seem to be the point with her. She required it extra hard and long regardless of orgasms.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

Rocco: Okay that's weird... I just have single friends in that position.

[Rocco81]

Lief I do agree 100% about the American entitlement thing. Also I do agree that when an American chick cheats, its for deeper emotional reasons and as you said she will swing from one branch to the other. They are however IMO less likely to cheat just because they felt like it. Hell most American girls I know take longer to prime in bed are less experimental and just more "boring" than Eastern European or Latin women anyways...I'm starting to think this isn't so bad if you want to keep a decent LTR with a chica.

I don't know so much about Brazilian girls, as I do about Colombian and Central American women. I kind of didn't want to believe most of it, but after looking back in reflection, + the new ones I continue to meet, conversing with some of the vetrans on here and elsewhere, I do think that in more cases than I ever would like to admit, what some of us are saying is true. Some of these girls just bang for the hell of it and cannot be trusted. I do think its a matter of class and education but some here disagree with me though on that point.

[Lief]

That's a good point Rocco. It does take a lot longer to "prime" American girls for bed even though they jump into bed relatively quickly. So maybe you're right - a horny Latina will cheat on your ass because she just feels like it.

Great - now I've gotta find a hot Brazilian girl who has joined the Taliban.

[Rocco81]

Let me say this Lief..... I have said it before but here goes again...There are still great girls all throughout Latin America. Allot of us guys have ideas based off of meeting chicas in the clubs or bars and they of course are expecting you to be a player and less likely to take you seriously and more likely just to have fun with you.

I still stand by this: If you meet a nice latina through family, close friends, trusted social cirle, IMO you are more likely to meet a quality girl. Finding the finest big booty chica in a club, you are most lkely finding the same Shakira wannabe that the last gringo there hit on and took home too, she knows you or some other gringo will buy her drinks all night, she loves attention etc. that is why she is there. Just think if you were a foreigner looking for white American girls in DC or LA...if you want fake Paris Hilton wannabe's then go to the lhottest lounges and clubs (the annoying ones where they come snapping your fotos all damn night and the beers are $10). Those places are all game, from guys to the girls to the music..its all fake. You want a good looking but less fake and more old school girl you're better off bieng introduced through friends or meeting her at the gym or a coffee shop, house party etc.

When you do meet a good Latina I really do believe that they are way better in general than the majority of North American girls. Still more sexy and "hot" blooded, but less bitchy and superficial. You def. do have to retain your alpha-ness...these women culturally like a nice but strong man. If you are too nice and give her too much space she will think you are a pussy or you are cheating on her.

[jimrogers]

I don't know. I talked to this foreign dating guru from: http://www.MyForeignLady.com

and according to him Brazil is a good place to find a wife/girlfriend. He told me you have to watch out for the ones who work as "working girls" (bar girls, prostitutes, go-go dances) as these are ok for banging but not for a serious relationship. He told me the good ones you can find in universities, malls, online, etc. According to him all Latin American countries are very similar as many poor women work in the sex industry because they know we have the money. But if you want something serious he says your better off focusing on middle class women who live normal lives (not in the sex industry). Now of course, if you looking for sex than the working girls are just what you want. It depends on what your looking for, every guy has different goals

[Pilgrim37]

My ex B girl was from a middle class background and although she couldn't cook and didn't want to she liked to clean!!

Real clean freak,personally and with the house...which I guess is a lot better than the other way around .

Beautiful fresh Brasiliera...doesn't get better!

[rozayINTL]

(03-08-2012 02:12 PM)jimrogers Wrote:  

I don't know. I talked to this foreign dating guru from: http://www.MyForeignLady.com

and according to him Brazil is a good place to find a wife/girlfriend. He told me you have to watch out for the ones who work as "working girls" (bar girls, prostitutes, go-go dances) as these are ok for banging but not for a serious relationship. He told me the good ones you can find in universities, malls, online, etc. According to him all Latin American countries are very similar as many poor women work in the sex industry because they know we have the money. But if you want something serious he says your better off focusing on middle class women who live normal lives (not in the sex industry). Now of course, if you looking for sex than the working girls are just what you want. It depends on what your looking for, every guy has different goals

Ahh yes & this is exactly why I will never bother visiting Brazil for women. Guys like this will only get worse before the world cup/olympics, or even after them..

jimrogers, you should read up on the countless threads on brazil from this forum, those might answer your questions

[Timoteo]

(06-28-2010 05:22 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-26-2010 08:37 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

(06-24-2010 10:25 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

(06-24-2010 06:02 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

I told them VP...

and I'm always affraid of dying some... I rather ironing.
Are you saying you're one of them, hein Chocolatinha? Sera? Sera? rsrsrs...

I can handle myself.
I'm not keen of laundry, because my clothes are delicate (some need to be washed by hand) I rather iron... So, if I find a man who can wash the clothes while I iron them, wash the dishes after dinner I will be happy. I think that man could help us and have more time to "have fun"

Funny she should say that. I actually enjoy doing dishes. I find the sound and the warm water relaxing. I have a dishwasher machine but prefer to do them by hand. I don't like doing laundry though.

It's funny, all this talk of chores. I learned all of that as a kid. As soon as I was tall enough, with the help of a little step ladder, to reach the sink and washing machine I was taught how to wash dishes and clothes. It's ridiculous for a single mother with two strapping boys to play maid and do everything for them. We also had to clean the bathroom, vacuum the apartment, etc. To this day, it isn't a big deal to do what's needed to keep things clean. I couldn't be with a woman that didn't clean up after herself, or was unwilling to learn. I didn't grow up with maids and servants. I'll be damned if I'LL be someone else's maid.

[Safado]

I had a b-girl over at my house last week. After we did the dirty I made dinner while she watched. I asked her to help clean the dishes and she gave me a bunch of attitude like it was expected that I cook and clean for her. This girl's family cant afford a maid, so she is no stranger to a sponge and a bar of soap.

I've been encountering all sorts of weird attitudes from girls here recently. I wish it were easy to generalize about my experience here, but girls have been all over the place in their behaviors.

[EddieGordo55]

I am beginning to have this same dilemna. I haven't been to Latin America at all but its the vibe I am getting throughout different forums and messaging boards across the internet.

It would seem to me that the middle class/upper class women in latin america are not going to be domesticated enough to be considered gf/wifey material. at the same time the poorer ones appear to be complete gold diggers or worse.

This is a BIG problem for me because I have a serious attraction for women from Latin America. I mean its damn near an obsession.

I am facing the same problem here in Africa. I am not sure if its a general thing but its difficult to date women in Africa. Don't believe when people say that African women are this or African women are that. Probably the biggest scammers, even Afro American women are better. Many foreign men that come here end up with the hookers or former hookers that have decided to give up the trade.

We need to have a serious debate about Latin America because there are people like myself that would love to get a serious girlfriend from Latin America. I don't know what it is about them but they are just FINE. But when I hear stories about their disloyalty, cunning, cheating, gold digging or their scamming tendencies, it seriously puts me off.

Add to this how certain men of certain looks can be the only ones that can take true advantage of these women and I might as well give up the fight. I am convinced that the anglosphere wherever they may be, in whatever continent should be avoided like a motherfucker.

Lived in the UK for damn near 10 years and couldn't get laid once. The only lay I got was either at a massage parlour or by luck from a passing american ( can you believe it?)

I am due to fly to Spain (The motherland for all Latin America) because I have a career opportunity in Spain. I will be leaving Africa perhaps this month and i need to start serious about banging and perhaps seriously dating a latin american woman. I mean it just fits with my personality and who I am. Many Latinas are Catholic which I am, Many are family oriented which my family is which is rare in the Anglosphere.

I recently fell upon a website that wrote an article about the best mothers. this was purely by accident. I checked the EU index for the countries of women that are the best mothers (typically the leave out most eastern european countries like russia) and spain came out on top. This probably means very little but it is something if it recognized by this governmental institutions.

So I do feel the anglosphere is definitely a problem for men globally. Even the anglo speaking countries in that aren't part of the big 5 (usa, uk, canada, nz, australia)

I mean I have spoken to women from countries that weren't from the anglosphere and I must say the attitudes were better, granted not all of them were but it was enough that i took notice. here in africa just a simple comparison of two neighboring countries in africa (Ghana and Cote D'Ivoire) and you can see vast differences even though there is familiarity between the 2 countries in terms of tribes. because both nations share a border there are tribes that are the same but one speaks french and the other speaks english but the femininity is just different. I can't explain it. I mean yes Ghanaian women are feminine but its not authentic. it feels forced. where as with a francophone country like ivory coast or togo its so natural. Same with Lusophone Africa.

It would not shock me if someone said the english speaking parts of india are the same. Something is up with women from English Speaking nations. even the poorest. And what kills me is they have no fucking need to be that way. To the point that even the hookers behave more feminine than women from those countries. Its fucking weird.

Finally I love my homeland. I fucking love the USA and I will continue to support my homeland wherever I may be. I will give back to US institutions abroad especially charitable organization and if God grants it and I am lucky enough to find what I am looking for I will one day go back and live there. but right now it doesn't seem feasible, lest Trump pulls something and brings the USA back like 40 years in terms of the value of the family in the USA, I cant see myself living there. There is no place in the world like the USA and it could probably fall just like any other empire but it would be a grate shame to the rest of the world.

Sorry for the rant but I am sick and tired of playing this same game that they play. sure you can find bad apples everywhere but the cultures of the anglosphere vs those outside of it leads me to believe that you'd be safer dealing with a woman from say honduras vs nigeria or america or uk.

[The Natural]

I would agree a 'good' brazilian girl would trump most gfs. Firstly they are extremely passionate, they will take care of you and are very loyal.
To me though the most important thing is they are open minded, In Sao Paulo for example I have never met so many openly bicurious girls...
Note I emphasised 'good' , if you live in Brazil you will meet these decent girls particularly in middle class areas where there are few gringos. While they are intrigued by gringos because they are different there is certainly no gringo chasing attitude unlike if you end up in a Gringo bar in Copocabana which of course would give you a false representation. Likewise if you visit a high end clubs you will find stunner party girls yet ordinary middle class brazilian girls who happen to be hot are what I am describing as gf material.
There are some very easy girls in Brazil and attitudes are changing with rapid westernisation mindsets developing the femnisim culture, but right now somewhere like Sao Paulo or Florianopolis in particular hosts classy beautiful girls with great attitudes who remain fun and open minded. So I would agree with Roosh

[The Natural]

EddieGordo55
Theres a large amount of girls in the middle of that spectrum who do not fall into either category who make perfect gf material. Just need to choose a city like SP or the South...

[worldtraveler3]

You didn't get laid once in 10 years?

[EddieGordo55]

(02-13-2017 06:36 PM)The Natural Wrote:  

I would agree a 'good' brazilian girl would trump most gfs. Firstly they are extremely passionate, they will take care of you and are very loyal.
To me though the most important thing is they are open minded, In Sao Paulo for example I have never met so many openly bicurious girls...
Note I emphasised 'good' , if you live in Brazil you will meet these decent girls particularly in middle class areas where there are few gringos. While they are intrigued by gringos because they are different there is certainly no gringo chasing attitude unlike if you end up in a Gringo bar in Copocabana which of course would give you a false representation. Likewise if you visit a high end clubs you will find stunner party girls yet ordinary middle class brazilian girls who happen to be hot are what I am describing as gf material.
There are some very easy girls in Brazil and attitudes are changing with rapid westernisation mindsets developing the femnisim culture, but right now somewhere like Sao Paulo or Florianopolis in particular hosts classy beautiful girls with great attitudes who remain fun and open minded. So I would agree with Roosh

But surely it will never reach western levels.