[hayesbrandon30]

this is just a question. i felt i would ask. what type of girl do men mainly want. and what to men are we?

me personally i prefer a LTR. but i can understand why a man would want just ONS's. Some women perfer a ONS too. Sometimes a situation doesn't allow for a LTR and a ONS is the only thing that can occur too.

what do you men here think. i mean we all talk about traveling to EE and Southeast Asia and South & Central America but what do you want out of life and why?

[pitt]

We are all looking for long term relationships. We travel around the world to look for serious relationships. They are way more fun. You will have one girl for the rest of your life. Who would want multiple girls? Spend your money on travel till you find the right girl and always think long term relationship.


Yeah right, was this a serious question?

[Mike_Doe]

Why would a man turn down a woman who would fulfil a traditional gender role? Who would cook his meals, look over his domain, bear his kids and secure his legacy?

If he ever found such a woman.

Would he really want to risk his legacy not being carried on, or worse, another notch who 9 months later claiming to have his offspring?

Depends on numerous factors. Mainly the time in a man's life and his lifestyle/circumstance.

[ryanf]

(04-06-2013 07:57 AM)pitt Wrote:  

We are all looking for long term relationships. We travel around the world to look for serious relationships. They are way more fun. You will have one girl for the rest of your life. Who would want multiple girls? Spend your money on travel till you find the right girl and always think long term relationship.


Yeah right, was this a serious question?

Almost thought you were serious there.

ONS only, no LTR. Had enough of those, all ended poorly.

[hayesbrandon30]

I agree with you guys. i'm just saying. in today's society, its unrealistic to expect beautiful women (especially Europe ones) to be perfect virgins. it's not possible.

but do you want a woman who as slept with 30 guys? I mean my worst fear is going over to a country and dealing with a beautiful nice girl who has good demeanor who is in reality just euro-trash. who has fucked a lot of men. pussy that is damanged both physically and emotionally. and more than likely to fuck around o me when i'm not lookin'.

because some men think they have game and are true players. and they may very well be experienced players. But women (especially pretty women) have game too.

basically do you want a LTR with a exotic beauty who had had a few guys in her life who didn't treat her right?

or do you want a ONS with a super slut? or do you want a LTR with a girl who is a recovering slut who feels guity who claims she wants a good guy now, but is really just a confused/damaged woman who subconsciously wants ONS's. again like she always did.

I found this article here from a site which addresses this issue.

Quote:

Slut is a strange word that women use to describe each other much more than men use to describe women. I am a people person and have come into contact with a ridiculous number of people through sport and dance over the last 40 plus years. Believe it or not, it is extremely rare for me to have heard a man call a woman a slut. On the other hand the number of times I have heard women call other women sluts are countless.

My ex-wife did it all the time. My current love interest does it, and I am sure to never do it. I don’t even bat an eyelid at it anymore when women feel inclined to disparage each other like this. And that indicts me. Maybe I should speak up, but I am more concerned about keeping the peace and leaving conflict for battles that really matter.

Now a man is very wary of the woman that may cause him embarrassment. And there are many types that fit into that category. I think this is the radar that you want an insight into. Our mamas warned us about loose women. In spite of that, we like sleeping with loose women if we don’t have disease worries floating around in our heads or looking stupid in front of our friends. There are two types of loose women. The ones that let it hang out there and the sneaky ones. The sneaky ones scare the living daylights out of us.

People do figure it out. I never imagine why women think they are that smart. There is not a single woman that I have had a relationship for more than three months that I have not figured out her somewhat number of past partners and what sexual acts she has engaged in. I don’t advocate full disclosure or anything that foolish, but don’t try to play the hypocrite and play a guy for a chump. And close to all women feel inclined to do that, because they fear being mistaken for the loose woman. So guys are partially to blame.

Most men realise their woman is smart enough to figure out what they have done in the past and stay away from the stupid misdirects. There is no need for full disclosure, but also no need to deliberately misdirect. In fact, women calling other women sluts, is a often a form of misdirect. They are trying to put themselves on a pedestal and trying to divert the guy away from thinking that they could be loose.

I don’t believe there is any special radar about this. Both genders do it equally well. Women play themselves into imagining that the ability they have ends with them and men are somehow stupid. Men let a lot of things slide if the sex is good. But don’t think, he doesn’t know.

I know quite a few men who are with formerly loose women who are great lovers. The key piece for the men is that they feel there was no overt attempt to play them for fools. Many of us have explored in our lifetimes, but it doesn’t mean we want to continue in that pattern. Now some guys are not mature enough to deal with this. I wish they would grow up. My question to women is this. Do you really want a guy like that where you continually feel the need to play hide and seek with your past?

I still believe the key denominator in relationships going anywhere, is prizability. People want to believe they have a prize. We all have different things that are important to us. People definitely don’t want to be embarrassed by their significant other, wheter it’s through unexpected loose behavior, or that person somehow seeming to be below their league.

if found

[ryanf]

(04-06-2013 09:07 AM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:  

I agree with you guys. i'm just saying. in today's society, its unrealistic to expect beautiful women (especially Europe ones) to be perfect virgins. it's not possible.

but do you want a woman who as slept with 30 guys? I mean my worst fear is going over to a country and dealing with a beautiful nice girl who has good demeanor who is in reality just euro-trash. who has fucked a lot of men.

because some men think they have game and are true players. and they may very well be experienced players. But women (especially pretty women) have game too.

basically do you want a LTR with a exotic beauty who had had a few guys in her life who didn't treat her right?

or do you want a ONS with a super slut? or do you want a LTR with a girl who is a recovering slut who feels guity who claims she wants a good guy now, but is really just a confused/damaged woman who subconsciously wants ONS.

I found this article here from a site which addresses this issue.

Quote:

Slut is a strange word that women use to describe each other much more than men use to describe women. I am a people person and have come into contact with a ridiculous number of people through sport and dance over the last 40 plus years. Believe it or not, it is extremely rare for me to have heard a man call a woman a slut. On the other hand the number of times I have heard women call other women sluts are countless.

My ex-wife did it all the time. My current love interest does it, and I am sure to never do it. I don’t even bat an eyelid at it anymore when women feel inclined to disparage each other like this. And that indicts me. Maybe I should speak up, but I am more concerned about keeping the peace and leaving conflict for battles that really matter.

Now a man is very wary of the woman that may cause him embarrassment. And there are many types that fit into that category. I think this is the radar that you want an insight into. Our mamas warned us about loose women. In spite of that, we like sleeping with loose women if we don’t have disease worries floating around in our heads or looking stupid in front of our friends. There are two types of loose women. The ones that let it hang out there and the sneaky ones. The sneaky ones scare the living daylights out of us.

People do figure it out. I never imagine why women think they are that smart. There is not a single woman that I have had a relationship for more than three months that I have not figured out her somewhat number of past partners and what sexual acts she has engaged in. I don’t advocate full disclosure or anything that foolish, but don’t try to play the hypocrite and play a guy for a chump. And close to all women feel inclined to do that, because they fear being mistaken for the loose woman. So guys are partially to blame.

Most men realise their woman is smart enough to figure out what they have done in the past and stay away from the stupid misdirects. There is no need for full disclosure, but also no need to deliberately misdirect. In fact, women calling other women sluts, is a often a form of misdirect. They are trying to put themselves on a pedestal and trying to divert the guy away from thinking that they could be loose.

I don’t believe there is any special radar about this. Both genders do it equally well. Women play themselves into imagining that the ability they have ends with them and men are somehow stupid. Men let a lot of things slide if the sex is good. But don’t think, he doesn’t know.

I know quite a few men who are with formerly loose women who are great lovers. The key piece for the men is that they feel there was no overt attempt to play them for fools. Many of us have explored in our lifetimes, but it doesn’t mean we want to continue in that pattern. Now some guys are not mature enough to deal with this. I wish they would grow up. My question to women is this. Do you really want a guy like that where you continually feel the need to play hide and seek with your past?

I still believe the key denominator in relationships going anywhere, is prizability. People want to believe they have a prize. We all have different things that are important to us. People definitely don’t want to be embarrassed by their significant other, wheter it’s through unexpected loose behavior, or that person somehow seeming to be below their league.

if found

Even this is dangerous, as fucking just a few alphas can render a girl unable to bond in an LTR. It has something to do with Oxytocin, or so I've heard. So I'm still going with ONS.

[hayesbrandon30]

Quote:

Even this is dangerous, as fucking just a few alphas can render a girl unable to bond in an LTR. It has something to do with Oxytocin, or so I've heard. So I'm still going with ONS.

Yeah. but is slutiness vs. wife material measured by how pretty a woman is? how good she knows how to suck and fuck a man?

i think we can both agree that ONS type women aren't wife material. but then again maybe i'm wrong about all that. i'm not sure anymore.

I mean here in America we men complain that women don't know how to PLEASE A MAN in and outside of the bedroom. that they don't know how to be women. and we are correct. they don't.

Because i'm looking back in history and I can now understand why those powerful ruler type men of the past felt the need to preserve a girls virginity and those infamous chastity belts. I get the psychology behind that now. untamed pussy (unleashed) is pussy out of control. i get it now.




We all know that women in Europe start fucking a lot earlier than we do here in the USA.

and the age of consent in many countries is 15/16. but does that stop overdeveloped pretty girls from fucking with the players/bad boys who either don't know their real age or don't care. ofcourse not.


because in my experience exotic/pretty women who come from fucked up family situations who didn't have positive STRONG male figures in their lives tend to grow up into the ONS type of woman who likes bad guys. And very often they need to get their thug-lovin' or they need to go thru that cycle repeatedly before they're ready for a LTR with a good man. its true.

and as we know in these poor countries some of these women come from screwed up situations (money and family wise). they may in their hearts be good people or want to be good but they were FORCED to do bad things or felt they had no choice. they're survivalists and they're lost.

I'ts like Roosh said in his Bang Ukraine book. Ukraine is a transactional culture. good girls who have a survivalist mentality who maybe were forced to do bad things and now its all about hustle.

and they may have a very jaded way of looking at life. can you really believe anything they say? because some girls who you think are good have plenty of things to hide. in their mind a man will screw around.

i think this is why in France and Italy people have open marriages. they accept certian things about male and female sexuality so they embrace it not matter how dysfunctional it may be.

Some gilrs don't want to but they'll:

1. They're able to stomach fucking an old man because it was their only way out.

2. They're sexuall attracted to bad guys and/or they're a jerkaholic type women and don't know why they like jerks.

3. They've fucked so many guys that their desensitized to sex and they don't feel anything anymore when they actually fuck somebody they like. and ONS lifestyle is all they know.




for those guys who want an LTR and are dating a beautiful girl from over-seas now. can you honestly say that you can trust the beautiful girl who has your dick in her mouth every night?



Is that what we good LTR type men deserve? beautiful & exotic, but damaged pussy that has been stretched out beyond our imagination?

Pussy that always makes us look over our shoulder and wonder?


When we ask her how many man has she had can we trust the number she has given us? what type of men did she fuck?

I mean sure we all want our sexual fantasies to come true. but at what price do we pay for that fantasy?



because i feel that beautiful women with integrity do exist. its just that in the past 5-6 years i see how hard that is to find that in life. love, pussy sex, seduction and acquiring physical beauty is truly a game no matter where you are in the world.

[Rutting Elephant]

A high-quality LTR for stability/connections, a secret bachelor pad or two to trick girls into thinking they'll get an LTR in exchange for certain acts.

[elabayarde]

LTR.. I like to ave several LTRS going. Girls just do so much more in bed like tat....buy u things ect.