Quote: (04-04-2013 09:11 AM)gandt Wrote:
Quote: (04-03-2013 02:13 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:
Quote: (04-03-2013 12:01 PM)one-two Wrote:
Me and the guy became good friends and I got invited to every party they would throw.
The girl was way out of my league (she shut me down too) but the mere association with her got me laid more than all my wingmen combined.
Entourage game absolutely works, but guess what? It's just a higher end part of socializing/networking. The better you get at this, the better your life will come and the more opportunities you will have laid out for you with minimal continual effort. In every aspect of your life.
If you want to get some attractive girls, go take dance lessons and befriend girls when you all go out dancing to some club, go play a sport that attractive women play (volleyball, adult kickball league, etc...), then befriend them and go out and socialize with them. I go out drinking/dancing with volleyball player friends of mine regularly, sometimes it's ALL ladies and I'm their go-to creeper terminator. If I start talking to a girl, they'll be all over helping me back and my social proof is through the roof. Because I've got some decent connections at some of the most popular bars, I get us all past the line (yes, this is easier with ladies, especially attractive ones, but they still would have to wait longer without me), and I get drink orders in for the group faster and with stronger pours (strongly poured doubles if it's the right bartender) and the ladies usually end up paying for my drinks because I got them all so cheap/fast.
This all costs me nothing except the time making the connections that I already would for my own benefit and I get the kind of social proof that is difficult to PAY for.
Just wait until you have an attractive/cool female friend willing to claim to other girls that you're her brother and that you are taking her out because it's her birthday (or because she was down for some reason) and that the girl should meet you. It's like shooting fish in a barrel for someone trying to get one night stands. My neighbor does this for our mutual friend all the time and it's RIDICULOUS how well it works.
This is the essence of what I was trying to get at - NATURALLY developing a social circle of attractive women.
But when it comes to women I find that I rarely in the past have befriended women. I have always just gone for the bang.
Can you outline some key points in befriending women versus trying to get them to bed with you?
I'm sure you have now developed a perfect balance of flirty friendliness while not coming across as someone desperately trying to fuck them.
Correct?
Here's the thing. Especially the girls who I meet through the volleyball community, I really try to not date. Especially if they live in the same town as I do. There's a saying in the beach volleyball community, "The sand talks" and there's a reason for it. While there's some very attractive girls in the community, if they aren't making it really obvious that they're into me, I'm putting them in the friends category by default because I know I will see a lot of them. Sort of the "don't shit where you eat" type thing.
I've even gone so far as to message a girl on a dating website letting her know that while she isn't my type, she seemed like a cool girl and I could introduce her to the area and volleyball (she was a player moved in from out of state). This girl then went on to integrate fully into the local beach volleyball community and ended up living with a bunch of hot girls, so introducing her around and adding her to my social circle has paid off hugely in social proof. Any girl she introduces me to gets to hear about how I'm the best thing since sliced bread (that's what you'd think from her introduction, she seriously gushes about me to people who don't know me, it's almost too much).
Also, I have to give a huge nod to logistics. I live in a beach town within sight of the pier/water and just a couple blocks away from all the bars/restaurants/stores, so when I go out, I often invite friends and they bring friends too and the pre-party/after-party is almost always at my place. I have a closet converted into a decently stocked bar with plenty of shot glasses, my freezer is full of frosted pint glasses, I've got a great sound system, and multiple couches/places to sit. I also like to host, so I have decent size parties from time to time and get to know even more friends of friends this way.
The best part about being the host of the party is that not only do you have great social proof but you NATURALLY don't have that much time to talk to any one person, so you're always doing takeaways just as part of the natural process of being a host. I've heard MANY times from my female friends that all their female friends were intrigued and wanted to know more about me. I almost naturally create a mystery about me because I'm showing everyone a good time and moving around from group to group so they never get all of my attention.
It's really good to have a bunch of female friends/good acquaintances because then other girls immediately are questioning, "wait, is THAT his gf? friend? is he single?"
Quote: (04-05-2013 02:46 AM)gandt Wrote:
Let me provide an example that I am sure almost everyone here can relate to:
Remember that time when a girl that was really into you went out on a limb and offered herself, sexually, to you?
And for whatever reason (she was too drunk, you were not attracted, didn't want to ruin a friendship) you decided not to take her up on her offer? And from that point on she basically ended all communication with you and fell completely off the radar.
MrXY gave some good advice. This is basically the role I play. I have a good time, I joke around with them, I flirt a little here and there (you have to be careful with this as to not trigger the hard rejection), and I mix it up with them so I'm always the interesting/different guy that they want to keep in their circle. I am confident when I dance with them and while I won't grope them, I'll grind with them/dance close to them and make no bones about it. At the same time, I'm not turning off other guys from approaching them on the dance floor, and they're always having a good time when they're hanging out with me.
Quote: (04-05-2013 02:46 AM)gandt Wrote:
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" -William Congreve
This is totally true. I still need practice calibrating for this, but for a long time I was absolutely dumbfounded at how OVERWHELMINGLY negative and even how VIOLENTLY a girl can react when you reject her. If you REALLY attract a girl and let her think she has a chance with you or lead her on in any significant way and THEN reject her or let her realize that you were never interested in her that way, man watch out. The fireworks will be coming out. Girls HATE being rejected and it's so rare that they "fall" for a guy when they haven't even dated, that this is a devastating thing to them and they have no idea how to handle it except explode in emotion. It's like you've attacked them when you haven't done anything of the sort (at least logically).
I've been trying to calibrate for this and it's still a learning process. It's not like girls are falling in love with me left and right but this has blindsided me in the past.
