[Tex Pro]

(04-04-2013 04:44 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

I think what killed California was the 1965 immigration reform + 1986 amnesty. That pretty much turned a solid, Republican, secular state into a live Democrat experimental ground with the third highest levels of inequality in the country, itself a recipe for social unrest. California is becoming more like the rest of Latin America. A small, super-rich elite will control the capital. The question is, will the Democrats reach a tipping point where the capital begins to flee the state at a rate greater than new cpital is generated?

I think it's already reached that point. And the process will only accelerate as Hispanics now account for over half of all childbirths in the Califronia, yet they fail to climb the social ladder even after two generations. This is unprecented and points to two possible explanations:

1) The rate of immigration is so extreme that its preventing dynasties from climbing the social ladder because they're mired in their own cultural adn economic ghettos they can't climb out of.

2) There is something specific about Hispanic culture that just means they are far less adept at amassing wealth than all other previous immigrant groups.

Now, Cubans did very well in Miami. But one has to remember the Cubans that cameto the US in the 60s were probably the most productive Cubans of the lot (obvious given castros policies). If the US were to attract Mexicos elite, we'd probably see the same effect.

Instead, we're getting millions and millions of low-skill laborers who flood the labor market and compete with Blacks and working class whites for low-skilled and unskilled jobs, vastly exacerbating inequality in the US. The scale of immigration the past 50 years has been so immense it's also having an effect on the US middle-class. Median wage rates have fallen or remained constant since 1972.

The first real patriotic and conscientous candidate who truly cares about the plight of America's poor and about Americans as a nation, and that means all ehtnic groups, will be the one who is in favor of reversing that 50-year trend quickly and effectively.

American prosperity, not just for whites, but for all ethnic groups, is dependent on a large white majority. For the Hispanics, their prosperity depends on Mexico getting on top of its game, not on America absorbing Mexico's surpus labor supply.

Ain't gonna happen, sport. Both parties are ready to cave in again on immigration reform (aka amnesty). I always laugh when I meet an immigration restriction person because they don't realize that they have no chance of getting what they want. You have been sold out. Might as well be talking about starting a unicorn farm.

I personally don't care anymore what happens to the USA. I am now thinking about my exit strategy. Thanks to Roosh, I now have a roadmap on how to get out of this mess.

Oh, and one last thing: people get the government they deserve.

[kerouac]

(04-04-2013 03:07 PM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

As an outsider CA does indeed sound horrible. For me the banning of Foie Gras would be the straw that broke the camels back. I mean do the good legislators of the state really have nothing better to do than make this ridiculous gesture. It just epitomises what is wrong with modern "liberalism", though I am embarrassed to even call it that.

The funny thing is, if you've ever been to the wealthier parts of California, whether we're talking about Southern or Northern CA, and you listen to what's important (at the moment, always at the moment because they're so easy to manipulate) to the women in the tight yoga pants, you will hear this exact type of shit. They're bored rich women who are disconnected from the real world and have to find new causes to fight.

These are the women who convince their rich husbands to support certain politicians, and you can be sure the politicians will listen to the causes and concerns of the rich yuppy women.

If you let them have their way, we will all be forced into a vegan lifestyle in 10 years. Luckily, their husbands still like steak.

[ElJefe]

(04-04-2013 04:53 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

(04-04-2013 04:44 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

I think what killed California was the 1965 immigration reform + 1986 amnesty. That pretty much turned a solid, Republican, secular state into a live Democrat experimental ground with the third highest levels of inequality in the country, itself a recipe for social unrest. California is becoming more like the rest of Latin America. A small, super-rich elite will control the capital. The question is, will the Democrats reach a tipping point where the capital begins to flee the state at a rate greater than new cpital is generated?

I think it's already reached that point. And the process will only accelerate as Hispanics now account for over half of all childbirths in the Califronia, yet they fail to climb the social ladder even after two generations. This is unprecented and points to two possible explanations:

1) The rate of immigration is so extreme that its preventing dynasties from climbing the social ladder because they're mired in their own cultural adn economic ghettos they can't climb out of.

2) There is something specific about Hispanic culture that just means they are far less adept at amassing wealth than all other previous immigrant groups.

Now, Cubans did very well in Miami. But one has to remember the Cubans that cameto the US in the 60s were probably the most productive Cubans of the lot (obvious given castros policies). If the US were to attract Mexicos elite, we'd probably see the same effect.

Instead, we're getting millions and millions of low-skill laborers who flood the labor market and compete with Blacks and working class whites for low-skilled and unskilled jobs, vastly exacerbating inequality in the US. The scale of immigration the past 50 years has been so immense it's also having an effect on the US middle-class. Median wage rates have fallen or remained constant since 1972.

The first real patriotic and conscientous candidate who truly cares about the plight of America's poor and about Americans as a nation, and that means all ehtnic groups, will be the one who is in favor of reversing that 50-year trend quickly and effectively.

American prosperity, not just for whites, but for all ethnic groups, is dependent on a large white majority. For the Hispanics, their prosperity depends on Mexico getting on top of its game, not on America absorbing Mexico's surpus labor supply.

Ain't gonna happen, sport. Both parties are ready to cave in again on immigration reform (aka amnesty). I always laugh when I meet an immigration restriction person because they don't realize that they have no chance of getting what they want. You have been sold out. Might as well be talking about starting a unicorn farm.

I personally don't care anymore what happens to the USA. I am now thinking about my exit strategy. Thanks to Roosh, I now have a roadmap on how to get out of this mess.

Oh, and one last thing: people get the government they deserve.

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori

That said, I agree with your assessment. But I think I'm going to put up a fight. Even Roosh is.

[speakeasy]

(04-04-2013 02:44 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-04-2013 02:34 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 05:46 PM)TheCaptainPower Wrote:  

Did you guys read his NY Times article on California?? I can't believe people take this guy serious. He is the biggest, leftist, democractic hack I have ever seen...

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01...n-surplus/

According to Krugman California is on the rebound, and if it wasn't for the small minority of GOP republicans California wouldn't have been in bad shape.

What is he smoking?

I love California the state, but politically California has:

• The highest unemployment rate in the country
• The highest state taxes
• The highest gasoline prices
• The highest debt liabilities
• 1/3 of all welfare in the United States
  

How can you praise California when the unemployment rate is rated 50 out of 50 states??

What state is run worse? Michigan?

I enjoy reading columnists on both the left and the right, but I can't stand Krugman.

Even though I voted for Obama twice, I'm much more likely to vote Republican in local races. That we are building that ridiculously expensive high speed rail that goes from nowhere to nowhere tells you everything we need to know about this states inhabitants. A bunch of tools.

Did it pass?

Isn't it going from LA to SF?

Yeah, it passed. It was actually an initiative put on the ballot that Californians voted for. I voted against it. Not because I hate rail but because they are talking about spending countless billions on this when the state's finances are in shambles. Why couldn't we have just added a few more extra flights between LA and SF?

http://www.mercurynews.com/california-hi...again-this

Overview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_High-Speed_Rail

(04-04-2013 04:44 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

I think what killed California was the 1965 immigration reform + 1986 amnesty. That pretty much turned a solid, Republican, secular state into a live Democrat experimental ground with the third highest levels of inequality in the country, itself a recipe for social unrest. California is becoming more like the rest of Latin America. A small, super-rich elite will control the capital. The question is, will the Democrats reach a tipping point where the capital begins to flee the state at a rate greater than new cpital is generated?

You can't have mass immigration from poor countries and not expect there to be social consequences. The left just doesn't understand this basic principle however. If it were up to them, the border would be wide open and we'd give amnesty to whoever ran, swam or crawled across it. Did you see how the word "illegal immigrant" has now been banned from the media? We are not allowed to use the word "illegal" even though it's 100% accurate. I'm so sick of politically correct bullshit. http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013...mmigrants/

California already functions like Latin America. You have the wealthy elite that send their kids to private schools so they don't have to rub elbows with all those Mexican kids who are like 90% of the school district now. They have their Mexican maids and gardners and baby sitters hired on the cheap. They have their own police force and guards around their communities to keep them safe meanwhile the roads in LA are full of cracks and potholes and the schools are in the toilet. Half of the city is the glitz and glamour you see on TV and the other half is little different from Tijuana.

Will capital flee California? I don't think they will, there's too much money to made here in Entertainment, the ports, Silicon Valley, big agribusiness, tourism, etc. What you will have is continued middle class flight. People who can't afford homes here but make descent salaries who would easily be able to afford a home in Denver or Atlanta. For the rich up in the Hollywood Hills, they are pretty much shielded. I even read that there's a mansion shortage in L.A. They can't build ENOUGH mansions up in the hills to keep up with demand. What does that tell you?

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I think it's already reached that point. And the process will only accelerate as Hispanics now account for over half of all childbirths in the Califronia, yet they fail to climb the social ladder even after two generations. This is unprecented and points to two possible explanations:

1) The rate of immigration is so extreme that its preventing dynasties from climbing the social ladder because they're mired in their own cultural adn economic ghettos they can't climb out of.

2) There is something specific about Hispanic culture that just means they are far less adept at amassing wealth than all other previous immigrant groups.

We are largely getting the lower classes of Mexico coming to California. The middle class and wealthy ones have no reason to come here. What would they be coming for? The pussy?

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Now, Cubans did very well in Miami. But one has to remember the Cubans that cameto the US in the 60s were probably the most productive Cubans of the lot (obvious given castros policies). If the US were to attract Mexicos elite, we'd probably see the same effect.

Exactly.

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Instead, we're getting millions and millions of low-skill laborers who flood the labor market and compete with Blacks and working class whites for low-skilled and unskilled jobs, vastly exacerbating inequality in the US. The scale of immigration the past 50 years has been so immense it's also having an effect on the US middle-class. Median wage rates have fallen or remained constant since 1972.

The first real patriotic and conscientous candidate who truly cares about the plight of America's poor and about Americans as a nation, and that means all ehtnic groups, will be the one who is in favor of reversing that 50-year trend quickly and effectively.

American prosperity, not just for whites, but for all ethnic groups, is dependent on a large white majority. For the Hispanics, their prosperity depends on Mexico getting on top of its game, not on America absorbing Mexico's surpus labor supply.

Agreed 100%.

[thegmanifesto]

(04-04-2013 03:07 PM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

And yet almost all the big US Tech and Entertainment companies still put their corporate headquarters in the state. I know that companies like Google have very complex international holdings that lets them avoid most corporate taxation, both federal and state, but it can't be cheap running their "Campus" in an expensive state like CA. And no doubt all head office employees must pay state taxes.

As an outsider CA does indeed sound horrible. For me the banning of Foie Gras would be the straw that broke the camels back. I mean do the good legislators of the state really have nothing better to do than make this ridiculous gesture. It just epitomises what is wrong with modern "liberalism", though I am embarrassed to even call it that. They don't have the guts to actually go after real animal cruelty in everyday slauterhouses, especially those conforming to Kosher/Halaal standards. So what do they do? They pass a completely useless law against an industry that probably treats their animals better than any other Just to give the illusion that they are doing something to fight animal cruelty. Absolutely no substance. All show. I'm sorry for being crude, but if this is the kind of law they pass they may as well bring in contractors to rip out the wood paneling and carpets and install tiles so that they can all sit in a big circle and masturbate during legislative assemblies.

That was definitely one of 30 reasons I had to bounce.