Although I have been "gaming" women for about 4 years now (I'm 21 right now) I haven't really studied the game or recorded interactions with women until encountering this website and specifically the Roosh Program. I was unhappy with my current situation with women and decided to take action to change it by doing 'The Roosh Program'. I've done my first 100 approaches, and I have a few questions about what I've noticed.
First, some information that might be useful:
-I'm a college senior
-The majority of these approaches were in Milwaukee, WI
-90% of the approaches were made at college/young professional bars
-I use Bang as my game resource - very practical information that has helped me out a lot.
-Out of the 100 approaches, I had 4 new bangs, 10 make outs (didn't ask any of these girls for their number), and 12 numbers. Only 4/12 of these numbers led to dates, but these 4 led to bangs.
Interestingly, 3/4 bangs I had were from Day Game approaches, although 90% of my approaches were at night. I know you're supposed to stick to one or the other during this, but I'm on campus a lot during the day and opportunities present themselves.
-I have had much more success in the day than at night. Why is this? Is my approach style better suited for the day? It's hard for me to describe my approach with women, I just kind of let conversation flow naturally, tease them of course, try to make them laugh. I use the same style at night and during the day, even though you're not supposed to. I think I need to rework my night approaches.
-It seems like bars at not good places to approach (at the actual bar). Girls come to order a drink, I open and we chat for a bit, she gets her drink, then leaves. Is there anything to do about this?
-What to do with a bad/sloppy kisser if you still want to get the bang?
-When you open up to groups of people, 2-3, do you include the whole group in conversation? Usually I do not, which hasn't been very effective. I suppose I should, but I don't know how to walk the line of talking to them all vs. talking to the girl I'm interested in.
-I think that reading up on Body Language would be an excellent asset to game, in terms of reading signals as well as presenting yourself in an advantageous manner. Has anyone read any good books on this subject that they would recommend?
-I also have started doing a technique to get the first kiss with girls, whether on a date, at a bar, at a house party etc. I ask them to come outside for a cigarette with me (isolation even in places where it can be difficult) then go for it there. This move has helped me a lot, although I'm currently quitting smoking so I don't know how to replace it.
-Also, I'm currently living in Brussels, Belgium right now. I've searched the forum for threads about this area and haven't found anything. If anyone has any experiences here, please let me know.
First, some information that might be useful:
-I'm a college senior
-The majority of these approaches were in Milwaukee, WI
-90% of the approaches were made at college/young professional bars
-I use Bang as my game resource - very practical information that has helped me out a lot.
-Out of the 100 approaches, I had 4 new bangs, 10 make outs (didn't ask any of these girls for their number), and 12 numbers. Only 4/12 of these numbers led to dates, but these 4 led to bangs.
Interestingly, 3/4 bangs I had were from Day Game approaches, although 90% of my approaches were at night. I know you're supposed to stick to one or the other during this, but I'm on campus a lot during the day and opportunities present themselves.
-I have had much more success in the day than at night. Why is this? Is my approach style better suited for the day? It's hard for me to describe my approach with women, I just kind of let conversation flow naturally, tease them of course, try to make them laugh. I use the same style at night and during the day, even though you're not supposed to. I think I need to rework my night approaches.
-It seems like bars at not good places to approach (at the actual bar). Girls come to order a drink, I open and we chat for a bit, she gets her drink, then leaves. Is there anything to do about this?
-What to do with a bad/sloppy kisser if you still want to get the bang?
-When you open up to groups of people, 2-3, do you include the whole group in conversation? Usually I do not, which hasn't been very effective. I suppose I should, but I don't know how to walk the line of talking to them all vs. talking to the girl I'm interested in.
-I think that reading up on Body Language would be an excellent asset to game, in terms of reading signals as well as presenting yourself in an advantageous manner. Has anyone read any good books on this subject that they would recommend?
-I also have started doing a technique to get the first kiss with girls, whether on a date, at a bar, at a house party etc. I ask them to come outside for a cigarette with me (isolation even in places where it can be difficult) then go for it there. This move has helped me a lot, although I'm currently quitting smoking so I don't know how to replace it.
-Also, I'm currently living in Brussels, Belgium right now. I've searched the forum for threads about this area and haven't found anything. If anyone has any experiences here, please let me know.
