[elabayarde]

I would like to bring this up....Its been on my mind alot over the last year...with respects to game. I dont have an opinion, but I would like to hear some of you guys outlook on game, and how it effects your faith and religions beliefs.

[fortysix]

A few times in my life when I was younger I tried to force myself to become religious ... to follow the traditions, to read the books, and to think about god. I thought that religion could provide me with more structure in my life to fall back on. It never really worked out - in the back of my mind I always knew that I was faking it. I can't believe in god. Its just not inside of me. I am really interested to learn about other people's faiths, though, and how you became religious ?

Were you raised that way? Did you question religion? Or did you become religious later on in life? Why?

[guerrilla]

drugs are a shortcut to seeing the spiritual, and that's coming from me who was a hardcore atheist.

tripping on hallucinogens makes you see the oneness (tao, brahman, etc) & the spiritual energy forces at work. only when you're ready for it though do these little doors into the infinite open up to you for a little bit.

this shit has helped me better understand myself and others A LOT better, and to confront my fears and shortcomings to become a better human. it helps me to find a bit of inner peace too, especially to overcome depression, anxiety, fear and hate.

religion is a journey I feel one must make on their own through their own empirical research, contemplation and practice. fuck organized religion. all the "greats" were 100% independent guys who dared to break free from the status quo and be a leader: the Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad, etc. as soon as anything spiritual gets "organized" it deteriorates due to the self-destructiveness inherent in man.

[scotian]

I'm a firm believer in sex before marriage.

[fortysix]

(03-24-2013 11:15 PM)guerrilla Wrote:  

drugs are a shortcut to seeing the spiritual, and that's coming from me who was a hardcore atheist.

tripping on hallucinogens makes you see the oneness (tao, brahman, etc) & the spiritual energy forces at work. only when you're ready for it though do these little doors into the infinite open up to you for a little bit.

this shit has helped me better understand myself and others A LOT better, and to confront my fears and shortcomings to become a better human.

I have never tried any drugs besides weed (if you consider that a drug), so Im very curious about this. Did you try drugs with the intent of becoming more spiritual, or was that something that came as a side effect of the recreational side? How did it help you confront your fears?

[guerrilla]

complete side effect of it. like i said, unless "you're ready" (whatever that means) the doors of perception just don't open for you

in terms of confront your fears its hard to put into words. i guess you could say by making you more fully aware of yourself, you become more capable. and also, you may realize how things that are holding you back are really so inconsequential and stupid that you dont see how they could hold you back. and on the flip side, if you align yourself with the tao, then the tao is on your side, and that's a creative energy that keeps you going like the energizer bunny. haha.

but its not like you can take psychedelics or something and get this 'wisdom' you gotta be ready for it like I said, and you gotta supplement your epiphanies with a lot of sober contemplation and research to get the most out of it.

[kinjutsu]

I was born into Buddhism.
Learned be to at peace with myself with all my flaws.
Not needing to making myself feel better by buying things as opposed to knowing who i am and understanding my emotions and how they sometimes can betray you in a situation.
Really not caring at all if a girl returns my text/call.
Not allowing myself to be manipulated by people (guys and girls)

[nando]

A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies.
11 Her husband has full confidence in her
and lacks nothing of value.
12 She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life.
13 She selects wool and flax
and works with eager hands.
14 She is like the merchant ships,
bringing her food from afar.
15 She gets up while it is still night;
she provides food for her family
and portions for her female servants.
16 She considers a field and buys it;
out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
17 She sets about her work vigorously;
her arms are strong for her tasks.
18 She sees that her trading is profitable,
and her lamp does not go out at night.
19 In her hand she holds the distaff
and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
20 She opens her arms to the poor
and extends her hands to the needy.
21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
22 She makes coverings for her bed;
she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
24 She makes linen garments and sells them,
and supplies the merchants with sashes.
25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;
she can laugh at the days to come.
26 She speaks with wisdom,
and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
27 She watches over the affairs of her household
and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:
29 “Many women do noble things,
but you surpass them all.”
30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
31 Honor her for all that her hands have done,
and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.


would Roosh bang the woman described in Proverbs 31? she doesn't sound american at all.

[elabayarde]

(03-24-2013 11:33 PM)guerrilla Wrote:  

complete side effect of it. like i said, unless "you're ready" (whatever that means) the doors of perception just don't open for you

in terms of confront your fears its hard to put into words. i guess you could say by making you more fully aware of yourself, you become more capable. and also, you may realize how things that are holding you back are really so inconsequential and stupid that you dont see how they could hold you back. and on the flip side, if you align yourself with the tao, then the tao is on your side, and that's a creative energy that keeps you going like the energizer bunny. haha.

but its not like you can take psychedelics or something and get this 'wisdom' you gotta be ready for it like I said, and you gotta supplement your epiphanies with a lot of sober contemplation and research to get the most out of it.

I met a guy who had just return from like 8 years in Thailand...we talked for hours....and he said almost word for word what yo u said about psychedelics. He told me its mind blowing even once your sober and pondering over the experience.

[iknowexactly]

(03-25-2013 12:25 AM)nando Wrote:  

A wife of strong independent character who can find?
She is worth far more than Bernanke Bux.
11 Her husband has full confidence in her
and loses everything to divorce rape
12 She brings him good, not harm,
all the days she feels he is still useful
13 She selects wool and flax
and only from the most expensive brands
14 She is like the merchant ships,
taking your money to distant shores with her drummer boyfriend
15 She gets up while it is still night;
and texts her musician boyfriend
and portions twittering to hen circle
16 She considers a field and buys it;
out of your earnings she tells you to plant a vineyard.
17 She sets about her work vigorously;
for a few minutes, and her arms are flabby and tattooed like a sailor for her tasks.
18 She sees that her trading is profitable,
and gives the money to a biker for his Harley
19 In her hand she holds the distaff
and grasps the drummer's, no the biker's, dick with her fingers.
20 She opens her arms to the poor
and spreads her legs to the needy.
21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
for all of them are clothed in 2nd mortgage bought clothes.
22 She makes coverings for her bed;
carefully hiding the evidence
23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the bankrupt of the land.
24 She makes linen garments and sells them,
and buys from the merchants bondage toys.
25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;
she can laugh at the days to come living off the poor Beta's alimony.
26 She speaks with wisdom,
and faithful explanation of feminism and family court law is on her tongue.
27 She watches over the affairs of her household
and dreams of drummerbiker dick
28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he sees them a couple weeks a year when she vacations with drummerbiker if he pays enough
29 “Many women do noble things,
but you surpass them all.” Indeed she does.
30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
but a woman with abslutlutely {sic} no morals is to be praised.
31 Honor her for all that her hands have done,
and let her works bring her praise at her beachfront home bought by you..

Bitter? ME bitter?

I fixed it for you.

[defguy]

Most members of this forum dont have a religion so they dont feel a conflict of interest in breaking or bending commandments. On a similar note:

I grew up with a Muslim father and a Catholic mother, ironically I grew up catholic bc my dads family was open minded and my mothers family wasnt. Because the people in my dads family loved talking spirituality and also to pick on me while young they would ask me critical questions like "what religion is right?" and follow up with "but if its the same god why arent they both right?" when I would naively spurt out "Catholic is right because it just is." Do all 9 year olds have hamster logic or is it just me? Over the years it pushed my mind to asking questions rather than simply taking in dogma.

Years of accepting dogma without question takes a long time to undo but i challenge any religious person by asking, "how can you truly say you are catholic, muslim, etc. if you havent studied other religions? A more powerful statement/commitment to god would be studying every major world religion and committing to the one you currently follow because you can honestly say 'I studied every major world religion and I am a catholic, muslim, etc.' because I know it is the true religion." Im flabbergasted people wouldnt make this commitment to themselves and their God, after all it IS their eternal soul at stake.

I recommend you watch the following 2 films:

Religulous
What the bleep do we know

You can watch them both on netflix and theyre great entertaining movies to watch. Do this with an open mind and youll be closer to finding God than you would just listening to some pastor who just spews interpretations of 1000 yr old text he cant fully understand. Religulous is a great movie, it's currently my favorite date movie and even die hard religious chicks cant help but laugh when bill maher cracks jokes.