[boets]

(12-21-2015 07:08 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

Generally speaking before the bang, I have talked to a girl quite a bit to size up a few things:

1. Is she liberal or conservative?
2. Is she religious or not?
3. Does she have a professional career or is she working minimum wage?
4. General attitude towards kids, family, etc.
5. Current age and expectations of that age in her mind.
6. Has kids or not

I just get a sense for the aforementioned via discussing various topics and from there, I gather a pretty good sense about whether a girl would keep a unplanned kid or not AND whether a chick has a lot to gain from a unplanned kid.

If a girl is religious, conservative, working for minimum wage, has a kid, and is 32, I'm not even gonna chance it. She has a kid (her lifestyle revolves around that now, another one isn't a big deal), she knows the child support system, she makes barely any money, and her values are probably against abortion for any reason except rape/incest. Fucking this slut is very high risk and not worth it to me.

On the other hand... if a girl is liberal, non-religious, working in a professional job, no kid, and is 24, I am FAR more likely to hit it raw and bust inside. She likely isn't against abortion, she has a lot to lose professionally and personally from an unplanned kid, and she is young enough to think she still has plenty of time to have kids in the future.

These aren't absolute rules. Just general trends.

Sometimes if the chick is in a real gray area, I'll just straight up ask directly or indirectly how they feel about unplanned kids. By indirect, I mean telling a story about some guy I know who got locked down with an unplanned kid and how it has ruin his life blah blah and why didn't the girl just goto the clinic blah blah.

Usually, the girl will comment on how she would have handle things. If you hear shit like, "It takes two to tango", "well he needs to take responsibility for his actions", "he had his chance before having sex with her" or some variation of those statements, there is a 99.9% chance the girl will keep the kid. Wrap it up or don't bang. DEFINITELY do not rawdog.

That all said: I recommend everyone to wrap it up regardless. I've lived very dangerously at times and while I have never gotten an STD or unplanned kid, I know the music stops for everyone eventually if you're not careful. Don't be stupid.

how do you know you've never gotten an std?

[General Stalin]

Go raw or go home.

I always go raw unless a girl refuses to mess around without a rubber. I had condom sex a few weeks ago and it was the worst. Second round I went soft mid-fuck because I literally couldn't feel anything. It was downright embarrassing. I can actually count on one hand with specific memory everytime I've used a condom for sex since I lost my virginity.

I have gotten an STI before (chlamydia, no big) but I'm not specifically worried about it for the most part. Reason being, as terrifying as health class and the media make it seem it's not as bad as it sounds. The vast majority of people do not have HIV, AIDS, Hepatitis, or any other extremely serious and terminal sort of disease that you can catch from sex. Your odds or running into someone who has a serious STD are slim (unless you are out raw dogging crack whores in china town). The worst one that is sort of common is herpes and even that isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be.

[Phoenix]

There's also the issue of changing between the two that hasn't been addressed.

If your dick is used to going in bagged, when you then put it in raw, the difference in feeling is so enormous that it just wants to bust immediately. Likewise if you're normally going in raw and you switch back to condom, it's like 'whats even the point'.

[Mage]

I am not interested in sex with condoms.

If the girl is scared going raw (very rare) or I don't trust her enough (more often) I am better satisfied with mere cuddling and oral.

[reino341]

(12-21-2015 11:19 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

If your dick is used to going in bagged, when you then put it in raw, the difference in feeling is so enormous that it just wants to bust immediately. Likewise if you're normally going in raw and you switch back to condom, it's like 'whats even the point'.

(12-21-2015 12:56 PM)Mage Wrote:  

I am not interested in sex with condoms.

If the girl is scared going raw (very rare) or I don't trust her enough (more often) I am better satisfied with mere cuddling and oral.

Case in point.

[SamuraiJack]

(12-20-2015 08:02 PM)boets Wrote:  

First date with a chick in her 30s and I forgot the condom in my car, of course it was raw and she didn't say a thing. How can I be sure that I didn't catch anything? I have an LTR so have to check it. Should I go for Hiv test? I panic more because of the LTR and not the pregnancy issue. Didn't blast inside

Most likely you are fine. In order to catch something, the other person has to have it, and even then, STDs transmission is not very efficient:

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/1-Enco...ow/1180286

The only way to be sure is to get tested. Chlamydia and gonorrhea tests can be taken around 4-7 days after the encounter. Syphilis, HSV (herpes), and HIV would take several weeks before a test would be able to detect them.

HIV is very unlikely. To help put your mind at ease while you wait for the appropriate time to get tested, take a look at Mark Manson's STD guide.

http://markmanson.net/std-guide

From Manson's site, on average, you would need to have unprotected sex with 1250 women to contract HIV. This is consistent with the Dr's responses on medhelp.org (1 in 2000 chance of contracting HIV).

Like you, I'm in an LTR, so I tend to get paranoid about catching an STD when I go raw with someone besides her. I'm more concerned about getting chlamydia or gonorrhea since many women are asymptomatic so they don't even know it and the probability is higher than with other STDs. Since condoms will prevent those, I always use a condom when I'm with someone besides my LTR. The two sites I linked to above tend to keep me calm and realistic about the actual chances of getting something.

Hope this helps put this in perspective.

[The Black Knight]

(12-21-2015 09:39 AM)boets Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 07:08 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

Generally speaking before the bang, I have talked to a girl quite a bit to size up a few things:

1. Is she liberal or conservative?
2. Is she religious or not?
3. Does she have a professional career or is she working minimum wage?
4. General attitude towards kids, family, etc.
5. Current age and expectations of that age in her mind.
6. Has kids or not

I just get a sense for the aforementioned via discussing various topics and from there, I gather a pretty good sense about whether a girl would keep a unplanned kid or not AND whether a chick has a lot to gain from a unplanned kid.

If a girl is religious, conservative, working for minimum wage, has a kid, and is 32, I'm not even gonna chance it. She has a kid (her lifestyle revolves around that now, another one isn't a big deal), she knows the child support system, she makes barely any money, and her values are probably against abortion for any reason except rape/incest. Fucking this slut is very high risk and not worth it to me.

On the other hand... if a girl is liberal, non-religious, working in a professional job, no kid, and is 24, I am FAR more likely to hit it raw and bust inside. She likely isn't against abortion, she has a lot to lose professionally and personally from an unplanned kid, and she is young enough to think she still has plenty of time to have kids in the future.

These aren't absolute rules. Just general trends.

Sometimes if the chick is in a real gray area, I'll just straight up ask directly or indirectly how they feel about unplanned kids. By indirect, I mean telling a story about some guy I know who got locked down with an unplanned kid and how it has ruin his life blah blah and why didn't the girl just goto the clinic blah blah.

Usually, the girl will comment on how she would have handle things. If you hear shit like, "It takes two to tango", "well he needs to take responsibility for his actions", "he had his chance before having sex with her" or some variation of those statements, there is a 99.9% chance the girl will keep the kid. Wrap it up or don't bang. DEFINITELY do not rawdog.

That all said: I recommend everyone to wrap it up regardless. I've lived very dangerously at times and while I have never gotten an STD or unplanned kid, I know the music stops for everyone eventually if you're not careful. Don't be stupid.

how do you know you've never gotten an std?

Haha for real?

I goto my doctor and he does a full panel of bloodwork, piss testing, and maybe even the swab in the peehole. I do this once or twice a year or when I'm paranoid (banged a seedy bitch, for example). Never have come up positive for a single thing (knock on wood). I also regularly piss after sex and give my private region a very thorough soaping.

[BrewDog]

I wanted to read this thread, but I got bored. Everyone says to wear a rubber for whatever fucking lame reason. Just stick your plain dick in the girl, son. If you get herpes then who gives a shit. I have it - I think - who knows, and I've only seen an outbreak like three times in the last 2.5 decades since I learned about it in college. It's not bad and it goes away in a few days and doesn't surface again for years. Maybe it's just HPV; I don't fucking know.

I can't feel shit with a rubber on and would just rather not go through the goddamn bother of wearing one. I went over 20 years without wearing one and the last time a girl in Colombia demanded I wear one, I regretted it because I fucked her for like 45 seconds and just gave up because it was like wearing an oven mitt on my dick and I didn't feel shit. It made me seem like I was an impotent shithead, and I'm not. I just can't feel a goddamn thing with that shit strangling my dick.

The last time before that, I wore a rubber in 1992 and I was in college. This girl was a college swimmer and blonde and perfect and I was about to pop anyhow, so the rubber was just a minor impediment to that. Since then, I've just told the girl, "I don't have one on me" and she's always like, "Ok then." And then we did it anyhow. If you're worried that she has HIV or some shit, then she's probably nasty and you shouldn't be fucking her in the first place. Otherwise, stop being such a worrysome pussy and just hit that shit.

[Mage]

(12-21-2015 10:16 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I wanted to read this thread, but I got bored. Everyone says to wear a rubber for whatever fucking lame reason.

Did we read the same thread?

[the Thing]

I check for needle marks on arms and try to find out how enthusiastic she is about anal. (ie. whether she does it often or not)

[Pride male]

WNR. Would not raw dog. I am a firm believer in condomising. Maybe it is Africa, but I saw too many people die of AIDS related illnesses.

[boets]

How can I know if I can fuck the LTR after that?

[Suits]

I've used a condom every time I've had sex, except this one time when the condom broke during round one and she was going to take a morning after pill within a matter of hours, so I just went in raw. Honestly, it didn't seem any better than sex with a condom. Felt about the same.

[Rhyme or Reason]

I used to used condoms. Not anymore. Once you go raw you never go back. I've been rather careless in my encounters... a lot of the time not even pulling out. Kinda shocked I never had a preggo scare.

[AneroidOcean]

I've said it a ton of times, but even if you're not scared of getting an STD, aren't you concerned about getting a girl pregnant?

I'd much, MUCH rather catch a non-life-threatening STD than impregnate a chick that will use the state to take my wages and try to not let me see my kid on top of it.

Fuck, fuck that.

Also, way too many of you guys are who aren't willing to try some of the slightly more expensive but EXCELLENT thin condoms on the market such as the Crown Skinless Skin (condomdepot.com and I have no affiliation other than being a customer). I won't say it feels the same, but the good thin condoms feel almost as good as condomless. I agree with shitty condoms it's a HUGE difference. With the good thing ones, it's a much smaller difference.

[DonnyGately]

Yeah, wear Crown, do not get girls pregnant. Unless you verify an IUD - and hopefully she says she doesn't get her period due to the hormones.

You only have to get a girl pregnant once never to want to live through that again.

[Pride male]

^Pull out.

[Stimulus]

This thread reminds me of some chick I hooked up with via Tinder. 19 yo, 5'4" and about 100lb's. 6 face but amazing hot body. Small round ass, handfull perky C cup tits and very slim.

We met at my place and got out clubbing but after just 1.5 hours she wanted 'to go home'. So we ended up in my bedroom and things were heating up. She sits on top of me and we are making out while she's rubbing my dick with her pussy. She lifts up her hips, grabs my dick and right as she is going down to let it slide in I rembered.. Rubber!

So I asked her "what are you doing? I'm not wearing a rubber.." To which she responds "Ooh I'm on birth control and I do this all the time."

Needless to say, I did put on a rubber...

Great fuck nonetheless. Hottest girl I've been with bodywise.

[YoungArt]

After reading this thread I'm kind of paranoid. Banged a chick raw without pulling out last September, she told me she was on the pill. I haven't heard from her ever since. might do a STD check but I don't feel sick..

[Barron]

Does anyone pull out anymore? I'd almost rather not fuck than have to wear a rubber.

Go Raw
Pull Out
Take a Piss

pretty simple

[Mercenary]

If she is age 18 or over, and I feel an unbroken hymen, and know she is a virgin, then it must go in raw.
No exceptions.



All others get a condom the first time.
No exceptions.

[RatInTheWoods]

(12-27-2015 06:34 AM)Stimulus Wrote:  

She sits on top of me and we are making out while she's rubbing my dick with her pussy. She lifts up her hips, grabs my dick and right as she is going down to let it slide in I rembered.. Rubber!

Props to you for self control mate, I might have been inclined to enjoy the moment right there

[Silver_Tube]

I had warts on my dick in my early 20's. It happened during an LTR with the first girl I ever fucked. 3 years into the relationship. We were going raw at that point because we lived together and were pretty convinced it was forever. The only logical possibility is that she cheated and brought it home with her and I was too much of a schmuck to ask any questions. She left 2 years later.

My dick is cleared up now but the little scar dots on it are not good looking. Most girls don't seem to care and fuck anyway, it has only scared away one. It freaked me out at first but after I read about it, I found it wasn't really a big deal. After that point I just stopped giving a shit, I go raw more often than not, I wrap pretty much only when the girl asks for it or if she seems suspicious.

You can be as careful and smart as you want, but we're really at female mercy with the STD spread. Judge the girl's character to figure out if she's likely to have fucked a lot, they aren't likely to tell you if they are unclean. Most of them are on BC, if she's stupid or on drugs or something then she's likely to fuck up the dosage so you ought to take that into account in your decision.

I knocked up a girl once and she aborted it, it was probably the saddest event in my life so far. She said she was high and forgot her pill, I had to drive her to another state to get it done. Her living situation was constant weed and coke and mushrooms and shit, I shouldn't have ever fucked her at all. Having the kid would have ruined both our lives but I still feel guilty about it.

[PapayaTapper]

(12-30-2015 04:45 AM)YoungArt Wrote:  

After reading this thread I'm kind of paranoid. Banged a chick raw without pulling out last September, she told me she was on the pill. I haven't heard from her ever since. might do a STD check but I don't feel sick..

There are several STDs that don't show symptoms until real damage is done (Example: Chlamydia can make you sterile without you ever knowing you have it) so its good to get checked out periodically. In many towns (at least here in CA) there are "free clinics" where you can go and get tested. You can even use a fake name. Depending on how many randoms you pull, once or twice a year is good

[HungJohnson69]

There's an alternative to condom I have "successfully" used back in the day, vaginal spermicides. Basically you insert a capsule inside the pussy 10 minutes before the act... It heats up your dick somewhat, but it's more natural than condom.

It's not a foolproof method of contraception, but neither is condom, so... You can of course increase "your odds" by pulling out. Then it's pretty secure.

It even MIGHT help preventing STDs, but the manufacturer can't legally make that claim.