[starmaze]

(02-22-2013 01:31 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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Yea but doesn't this strike you as something that would only work on american girls? maybe british or aussie too.. seems like most eastern euro girls are too logical to let themselves be caught off by this

Yeah DK and I presumed this going in, but we tried for fun. A regular indirect approach goes very far with Polish girls.

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Polish girls are totaly fucked up

This sounds like bitterness. What type of girl is less fucked up than Polish? I await your answer.

You saw how american girls respond to this line on video. Then you tried the same line in Poland and your result was 0 numbers. Doesnt it prove even "feminist" American girls are much more open then Polish?

[dk902]

No it doesn't prove American girls are much more open than Polish, based on a test sample of 6, with a specific opener, in the cold with snow coming down.

But maybe that's just me...

[Roosh]

I asked you for your personal experience. What type of girl is less fucked up than Polish? You didn't answer me. Have you even sex with a Polish girl? An American girl?

Instead you're keyboard jockeying about an edited video that confirms that an American girl will give out her number like candy, something everyone here knows.

[tapanar]

(02-22-2013 02:03 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

You saw how american girls respond to this line on video. Then you tried the same line in Poland and your result was 0 numbers. Doesnt it prove even "feminist" American girls are much more open then Polish?

No. It proves that there (still) are differences between American and European culture. American women are more open in the sense that their legs are more open.

Here is my explanation: In Europe, people value relationships. Most relationships are long and having a relationship requires effort and involvement. In America, relationships are cheap and short, and a lot of women are ready to have sex without connecting on a higher level (they actually punish such attempts), hence why that opener works. Of course, things are always changing as American culture spreads.

[starmaze]

(02-22-2013 02:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I asked you for your personal experience. What type of girl is less fucked up than Polish? You didn't answer me. Have you even sex with a Polish girl? An American girl?

Instead you're keyboard jockeying about an edited video that confirms that an American girl will give out her number like candy, something everyone here knows.

My opinion on American girls are based on videos from net ( so are they all lying?). My opinion on Polish girls are based on my personal experience.

If you want to find open girls target ukrainian girls....

[Gemini]

(02-22-2013 05:28 AM)soup Wrote:  

NOTICE how that vid doesn't include the myriad denials. There must have been hundreds.

I was thinking the same thing. Obviously, the video is edited. Obviously there were some girls who didn't even stop in their tracks, rejected him, or just laughed, or politely declined. We don't know how many or what % of total.

[Jaylow]

(02-22-2013 05:58 PM)Gemini Wrote:  

I was thinking the same thing. Obviously, the video is edited. Obviously there were some girls who didn't even stop in their tracks, rejected him, or just laughed, or politely declined. We don't know how many or what % of total.

The bottom of the video it says they got turned down 25% of the time. Still want an answer on a previous question, when a girl gives you her number and you respond with "is this a real number?", that is not a good thing to do correct?

[Barron]

analyze that question.. does that seem like something a dominant/confident man would say? an alpha couldn't care less, if it is then good, if not, Next.

[Gemini]

(02-22-2013 06:35 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

Still want an answer on a previous question, when a girl gives you her number and you respond with "is this a real number?", that is not a good thing to do correct?

Hey Jaylow, I wouldn't respond with "Is this a real number?" which sounds insecure and so on, I would either assume that is it real or I would say "Ok I'm calling you right now [call the number she just provided you] so you can have my number, [blah blah blah]
This puts her on the spot. If her phone doesn't dial, she will be majorly embarrassed .

[MrXY]

My favorite is at 2:35, when she objects "You're funny.... but I don't even know you" he just stares her down wordlessly and nods, and she giggles and does it!

Notice how she initially didn't stop when he spoke to her,, but when he said "Come here!" in a command voice she whipped right around and stepped to him.

One of the main truths I've learned in game is how amazingly effective ballsy dominance is in attracting women. It seems to sort of hijack their brain. I've just kept ramping it up and have been continually surprised that the more i've pushed it the better it works

[theIVth]

Something tells me that as viral as this video has become, girls have seen it and will probably be expecting this approach now. You already know what means.

[MrXY]

(02-24-2013 03:19 PM)theIVth Wrote:  

Something tells me that as viral as this video has become, girls have seen it and will probably be expecting this approach now. You already know what means.

Nah. Guys into game always think that a certain technique won't work because "everybody knows about it" but it's mostly just guys into game who know about it and even when girls do know about it a lot of times it still works.

I would be surprised if even 10%of the the girls in the US ever see this video.

[bojangles]

2.5 million people have seen it

[MrXY]

(02-24-2013 04:16 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

2.5 million people have seen it

yes, but youtube is worldwide, the great majority of those viewers are male i'm sure,and plenty of the views are multiple watches. The only relevant number to me is how many American women I consider bangable have seen it and I doubt it will ever be more than a small minority.

[TheRookie]

One caveat is these are BYU girls. So you can't really say "American girls are sluts who give out their phone numbers." I would venture to assume most BYU girls are more friendly and polite and more willing to go on a date with you as this is more of a traditional courtship. Except for a few sluts that exist in every community, the average Mormon girl is not going to put out very easily.

[rivelino]

deep down, the feminine wants to be dominated by the masculine. words are important, but vibe and presence are more important. basically, the "jedi mind trick" works on the weak minded, and girls, because of their feminine energy, are weak minded when in the presence of strong masculine energy.

if anyone wants the "soft, romantic" version of this, read david deida's the way of the superior man. if you want the harsher verison, read classic roissy.

[BalkanCynic]

Yep.. BYU is a very close knit community

[Collapseofman]

I noticed a lot of body language in the video and tried to pick up on what was intentional. They actively avoided eye contact, which was interesting. One guy had shades on, both would turn around, take a step away, look off to the side when she had the phone. Probably makes it less intimidating / turns off defenses.

Deadpan is probably helpful. It's more a business transaction than it was an actual part of the courtship.

[Volk]

Maybe it didn't matter, but Vitaly was never actively looking for numbers, only for reactions.

[agorist]

Maybe lots of flakes, but use Google Voice to text game a lot of them at once and move forward with those that go with it..

[Leónidas]

Did this and met this girl:

Took her to my house and danced salsa and samba with her. No kiss no puss.

Lesson: Kiss her before taking her to your house.

I should have commanded her in the same way: "Take off your clothes"

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

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The girls would all ask "Why?" which was a bit unlike the video. Then we'd say something like "You're nice" or "You're cute" and then they'd decline, usually with a giggle.

Did you ever try the "Cause I said" line? I thought that was hilarious

Regardless, thanks for making the attempt. Hopefully you can extend the sample size sometime.

[ElJefe]

He might seem nervous, but his voice tone is PERFECT!

His outfit is pretty good, too. I haven't felt this excited about game in years.

[michelin]

(02-21-2013 08:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Wow I'm surprised so many girls said yes.

I think the guy approached a few hundred of girls and got 15 or so positive reactions, which he copy-pasted into this video. After all, it is my guess that this is just a numbers game that would work only 5% or less of girls you approach. Probably most of the girls just put in a (fake or real) number to get rid of the guy. But chances are that one girl out of these hundreds will eventually accept a date...

Anway, I am skeptical with most direct game approaches, although I believe it works for some guys (such as Krauser, the Tylers, the Daygame.com PUA's ,etc.)

[the virgin chronicles]

Seems like pretty basic direct daygame to me. If you guys ever watch Simple Pickup / Project Go you will see shit like this.