[w00t]

Im surprised you guys are surprised.
Getting numbers in daygame is the simplest thing in the world. Hes basically ambushing them and they dont want to say no. The problem is that most of them will flake.

[starmaze]

(02-22-2013 03:40 AM)w00t Wrote:  

Im surprised you guys are surprised.
Getting numbers in daygame is the simplest thing in the world. Hes basically ambushing them and they dont want to say no. The problem is that most of them will flake.

most girls flake anyway.

[Rah]

This guy is great, I want to test it out. Yes, the flake % would be higher, but how much higher? So high that it would negate the sheer volume of numbers you could rack up like this?

I think the only caveat is a girl is going to need to think you're physically attractive to respond to you from such a shallow first impression.

[soup]

Once again, body language wins over most other game gimmicks.

Be solid.

He actually is nervous- it's like he's been given too much power.

Look at all the nervous twitching and false takeaways after he gets the number.

NOTICE how that vid doesn't include the myriad denials. There must have been hundreds.

[XXL]

I think it's good thing to try if we're actually in a rush and hot girl is somewhere close. The way I see it is little bit more civilized..

- hi put your number in my phone
- [her reaction]
- i find your [something] very attractive. we're both in a rush now. let's meet at the end of the week.
- If she gives me her number..
- She says she's not in a rush. Green light but I can't give in like a bitch. I say That's tempting but I'm late. Pickup your phone. We'll talk. I leave and I call her as I'm walking. It's fine, it fits the frame of the approach. Also, it's easier to sell some cool bullshit over the phone about the rush with no face to face contact. Few sentences good voice tone. Then I end that short call by setting up a date with straightforward "what you doing on x day or y day" text/call and go from there.
- She's says she's also in a rush. I add I guess I'm mindreader. I'll call you. Have a good day. I leave. I call her later within few hours. Short concise chit chat with straightforward "what you doing on x day or y day" at the end.

I think to pull it off and actually take it somewhere it's crucial to hold that concise/brief frame to the max in those first stages of interaction [in first call too]. Slightest mismatch or cutesy friendly aloof shit will kill it cause by going so direct initially she sees me as "clearly interested guy" so I have to be that way 100% to get her out and meet face to face [then the "real" interaction starts so I can screen her no problem]. I remember I messed things up a couple of times by going hard initially [not like Vitaly but still direct] and then diffusing it with friendly shit too early. So brevity, straight line, "on the move" type of action. Jason Bourne game. Ha! Coining it!

But as for now it's just speculation.

[Roosh]

Yeah most girls were flake, but this takes so little time, so 10 numbers on a campus which takes 30 minutes of work, and you get a date out of that on a girl who likes you the most.

[starmaze]

(02-22-2013 04:17 AM)Rah Wrote:  

This guy is great, I want to test it out. Yes, the flake % would be higher, but how much higher? So high that it would negate the sheer volume of numbers you could rack up like this?

I think the only caveat is a girl is going to need to think you're physically attractive to respond to you from such a shallow first impression.

yes, thats the point.

[starmaze]

(02-22-2013 05:28 AM)soup Wrote:  

Once again, body language wins over most other game gimmicks.

Be solid.

He actually is nervous- it's like he's been given too much power.

Look at all the nervous twitching and false takeaways after he gets the number.

NOTICE how that vid doesn't include the myriad denials. There must have been hundreds.

Nervous? I dont know where have you get impression from. He is calm and confident.

[Teedub]

I'm definitely doing this tomorrow evening when I'm out. I love evening/night street game so this goes hand in hand.

[Prophylaxis]

Love it. Definitely something for street approaches. We need to trial this out and work out the conversion rate. I'll give it a go this weekend. Regardless, a good way to build up confidence in the shortest time-frame.

You would need to agree to a date 'later in the week' while getting the no. though. I like the 'why did you give me your number so quickly?' completely reversing the focus and judging her - AWESOME.

[starmaze]

(02-22-2013 07:32 AM)Prophylaxis Wrote:  

Love it. Definitely something for street approaches. We need to trial this out and work out the conversion rate. I'll give it a go this weekend. Regardless, a good way to build up confidence in the shortest time-frame.

You would need to agree to a date 'later in the week' while getting the no. though. I like the 'why did you give me your number so quickly?' completely reversing the focus and judging her - AWESOME.

exactly, he turns tha tables and make her quliafy her for him.

[Every10GivesMeA10]

Apparently the guy has featured in a bangbros episode as well

[Ensam]

I spotted the nerves too but I think it's mostly from him being on camera rather than talking to the girls. He knows it's being filmed. The interactions with each of the girls is low stakes because it's all for video, but he's performing and you can tell.

The other advantage of this strategy is that given his location 99% of those girls are mormon. Not all mormon girls are uptight and some love to fuck but it's very difficult to tell before putting in some one on one time. I bet the few girls who respond to a follow up would be more likely to be DTF than a random girl he spent 10 minutes chatting up at the ice cream store (not many bars around the BYU campus).

[Menace]

Mormon girls are polite and compliant. See Elizabeth Smart. Guys need to try this in DC, NYC, LA, Miami, although this is not really pick up per se, just messing around.

[20Nation]

This is my city. This guy is going to get some crazy high flake rate. He is also not getting laid... if he does the same thing across town at UVU his life would be much happier.

[GenJx]

[_GQ_]

(02-22-2013 06:01 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Yeah most girls were flake, but this takes so little time, so 10 numbers on a campus which takes 30 minutes of work, and you get a date out of that on a girl who likes you the most.

Numbers game? Pun intended?

[Roosh]

Me and dk902 used this opener at a Polish university today. It was snowing and quite cold, so we only got to 3 approaches each. The result: 0 numbers.

The girls would all ask "Why?" which was a bit unlike the video. Then we'd say something like "You're nice" or "You're cute" and then they'd decline, usually with a giggle. We did pairs and we did girls talking on their phones or wearing headphones. There were chances for us to game after the line "failed," but in the clip he got numbers from the line only.

The benefit of this line seemed that it was quick and easy, but our limited experience today said it doesn't fare better than a standard approach. It's worth trying in better weather, but we couldn't duplicate the results on the video.

However, the line definitely opens. Girls stop and are intrigued, but you still need to spit some game after it, which kind of nulls out the effect of it. One thing to add is that DK is a good looking guy, and in Poland I'm above average as well.

[Basil Ransom]

(02-21-2013 11:09 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 11:00 PM)GenJx Wrote:  

great video. this type of dominance can be applied to any part of the game, especially escalating to bang

What guys don't understand is that picking up girls today is actually entertaining to them and the stranger the approach the higher the entertainment value. Also, notice, they are not pulling this shit on any really hot babes. All of the girls in the video are like a 6 and below.

You must be the biggest phony and poser on the forums, congrats.

PS dat ass in the bubblegum pink jeans.

[Barron]

(02-22-2013 10:28 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Me and dk902 used this opener at a Polish university today. It was snowing and quite cold, so we only got to 3 approaches each. The result: 0 numbers.

The girls would all ask "Why?" which was a bit unlike the video. Then we'd say something like "You're nice" or "You're cute" and then they'd decline, usually with a giggle. We did pairs and we did girls talking on their phones or wearing headphones. There were chances for us to game after the line "failed," but in the clip he got numbers from the line only.

The benefit of this line seemed that it was quick and easy, but our limited experience today said it doesn't fare better than a standard approach. It's worth trying in better weather, but we couldn't duplicate the results on the video.

However, the line definitely opens. Girls stop and are intrigued, but you still need to spit some game after it, which kind of nulls out the effect of it. One thing to add is that DK is a good looking guy, and in Poland I'm above average as well.

Yea but doesn't this strike you as something that would only work on american girls? maybe british or aussie too.. seems like most eastern euro girls are too logical to let themselves be caught off by this

[starmaze]

(02-22-2013 10:28 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Me and dk902 used this opener at a Polish university today. It was snowing and quite cold, so we only got to 3 approaches each. The result: 0 numbers.

The girls would all ask "Why?" which was a bit unlike the video. Then we'd say something like "You're nice" or "You're cute" and then they'd decline, usually with a giggle. We did pairs and we did girls talking on their phones or wearing headphones. There were chances for us to game after the line "failed," but in the clip he got numbers from the line only.

The benefit of this line seemed that it was quick and easy, but our limited experience today said it doesn't fare better than a standard approach. It's worth trying in better weather, but we couldn't duplicate the results on the video.

However, the line definitely opens. Girls stop and are intrigued, but you still need to spit some game after it, which kind of nulls out the effect of it. One thing to add is that DK is a good looking guy, and in Poland I'm above average as well.

I am Polish and i am not surprised by your results. Polish girls are totaly fucked up, especially in my hometown Poznan. But the problem its not a line, the problem is mentality.

[Roosh]

Quote:

Yea but doesn't this strike you as something that would only work on american girls? maybe british or aussie too.. seems like most eastern euro girls are too logical to let themselves be caught off by this

Yeah DK and I presumed this going in, but we tried for fun. A regular indirect approach goes very far with Polish girls.

Quote:

Polish girls are totaly fucked up

This sounds like bitterness. What type of girl is less fucked up than Polish? I await your answer.

[j r]

(02-21-2013 08:42 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

Sorry, simul posted.

Here's the link to Lindy West's 'thoughts': http://jezebel.com/5986058/have-you-this...hone-prank
In the end she admits it's not a bad way to be asked out.

I think the real key to his success is how he responded when the girls challenged him on it. He didn't get defensive. He just either repeated the request or just stares them down into compliance.

I got Lindy West's number. It's about 325.

[FourToTheFloor]

Lol this one doesn't like a strong masculine frame.

[Giovonny]

Crazy shit works better on Americans. They are used to crazy shit. They expect crazy shit. They can get bored without a little crazy shit.

To us, crazy has become normal. Girls respond to it. It gets there hamsters spinning.

(02-22-2013 10:28 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

One thing to add is that DK is a good looking guy, and in Poland I'm above average as well.

Haha..That always helps!

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"Hey, Wanna Fuck" is a better one.