[Ensam]

LouieG hit the nail on the head. I only raw dag it with girls who have more to lose than me if they get knocked up. Accidents still happen, and they still might keep the kid, but at least I'm confident they aren't trying to run a scam. But then again I'm at a point in life where I honestly don't mind if I end up with a kid from a cool chick.

[Aliblahba]

(02-17-2013 06:46 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-17-2013 05:23 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Not learning his lesson, he got a chick knocked on the Rezzie, where white man has no rights. Of course you can guess where this story goes.

Where is Rezzie?

Indian Reservation. Not a place you want to leave genetic as an outsider.

[Parlay44]

(02-17-2013 05:49 PM)jammer Wrote:  

One of the benefits of being a black man. Few white women want to go thru the shame of creating a mixed baby. Plus you are perceived to be poor so she won't look at me like I'm a meal ticket. And its easier to tell if the baby is mine.

I'd like to take the white guy side of this discussion.

I wouldn't say it's "shameful" these days for a white woman to date black men or have a black baby. Women have no shame.

I'll tell you what it is straight up. White dudes have issues with any women who date non-whites. We're all racist to a certain extent. Once it's known in the social circle that a certain girl has dated another race she's unmediately undateble. We'll be cool with her and still be friends but any kind of serious relationship is off the table and she knows it.

This limits her dating pool significantly. That's why they're so sneaky about who they fuck. If they wanna date another white guy after that they have to date outside of their social circle where nobody knows them.

I believe most people date and marry within their social circle.

[MKE-Ed]

This is the one thing that sometimes scares me when I'm with a chick. I have seen some guys over the years get really screwed over with child support. Depending on your financial situation, child support can put a very serious crimp on your life style for many years out. I feel for this guy. Pick your women very carefully guys. I have seen a lot of younger women within the last 5-8 years more prone to pulling this type of thing on some poor unsuspecting guy.

[Timoteo]

Once a woman truly decides that she wants a baby, she'll try to get pregnant by the next decent guy she fucks. If he's got a good job and is good looking (they want a pretty baby), you can believe they'll be an "accident." She won't give a damn if HE wants a kid - it's all about HER being ready for one, and she won't care if he wants to be a part of bringing the kid up. She'll definitely want him to help pay to raise the kid though.

[rudebwoy]

Remember folks, she stopped taking the pill. So she wanted to get pregnant no matter what, now she does not have to worry about working as a waitress.

[Nonpareil]

This shit does happen and as we have touched on, it's wrong that girls get to do it with impunity while men get to foot the bill.

..but you make six figures and you LTR a girl making $10 an hour, what do you expect? If I was pulling that kind of coin, yeah I'd definitely be fucking girls on the lower-end of the earnings' spectrum, but I'm not stupid enough to put myself in the position that lets her know how much I'm worth; I guarantee you when this guy first slid in raw, this chick thought 'jackpot!' and put the wheels into motion on her scheme.

[renotime]

Any chance this chick is lying?

I had two pregnancy scares with a chick I was fucking, once in high school. I made sure I was outside the bathroom door for both of them. In fact, I made her take one in Wal Mart, right after she bought that shit.

If it were me, and the baby turned out to be mine, I'd push hard for an abortion. If that didn't work, I would run away to France and join the FFL.

[Fortitudinal]

Fucked up situation.

I second the motion of demanding a paternity test. If that still comes up as positive, I would have a shark lawyer draft up a legalese sounding doc, where it states that you feel its entrapment, fraud, breach of trust, etc etc. Might have zero legal weight, but might just be enough to make the lizard second guess her choices.

[Lemmo]

Look on the bright side. At least you aren't married.

And since she is a sociopath her claims that the child is yours are of course meaningless until confirmed by a paternity test.

[Timoteo]

(02-17-2013 10:03 PM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

This shit does happen and as we have touched on, it's wrong that girls get to do it with impunity while men get to foot the bill.

..but you make six figures and you LTR a girl making $10 an hour, what do you expect? If I was pulling that kind of coin, yeah I'd definitely be fucking girls on the lower-end of the earnings' spectrum, but I'm not stupid enough to put myself in the position that lets her know how much I'm worth; I guarantee you when this guy first slid in raw, this chick thought 'jackpot!' and put the wheels into motion on her scheme.

This is true, but we all know that men have always dated, or even married below station because we don't really care what a woman does for a living. We care about if she's attractive, and we enjoy being with her. However, women have always been taught to shoot above station, so if you have this kind of disparity, it increases the likelihood that she might pull some thing like this. Yeah, she might not be able to keep you, but she'll always have your seed and a check from you every month. Then she'll gladly fuck with guys more on her economic level, because she'll be a single mom and will have a harder time pulling the same kind of guy as the kid's dad.

[Cincinnatus]

This thread is a great example of why I love RVF. The fellas here call shit like it really is.

It's also another confirmation that I'll never bang a girl raw, even if she says she's on the pill. When I take my girlfriend to the birth control clinic soon I'm gonna see if they'll give her the shot, so "I forgot the pill" type excuses won't leave me with an 18 yr. annuity. And I want to be there when they give her the injection, so I know for sure.

After that, it's game on.

[Samseau]

I guess the human race has to keep going one way or the other

[defguy]

The most alpha guy I know scared a few girls into getting an abortion. He said he was "fucking evil to her" but ultimately went with her to the clinic and paid half. Hes the same guy that demands they get an std test immediately if a condom breaks and it's shocking what you can get away with telling a girl on the phone. It may be out of your character/comfort zone but if youre downright evil to her on the phone about how she needs to get an abortion and your willing to pay for it now but if she has a kid youll be a deadbeat dad and teach it to be evil, she will change her values real quick. Nobody wants a kid with someone thats just plain doesnt give a shit about her or the baby, she wants a baby with a guy that does what he's supposed to, easy to get along with and pays child support when its due.

Depending how far along it is a guy in this situation can bug the shit out of her to get an abortion and if she keeps resisting just ignore her for a week. Literally nothing, not even if she agrees to an abortion the ignoring might scare her into it and you dont even have to pay or show up for it.

Both methods have worked well for several people I know.

[Ensam]

If they guy really pulled out there's a decent chance the kid isn't his. Pulling out is a remarkably effective method, we just don't tell teenagers this because they'd probably fuck it up and it doesn't do anything about STDs. If you actually pull out every single time there's only a 4% chance the girl is going to get pregnant over the course of a year. I seriously wonder how much of that 4% is due to infidelity. If you fuck up the 'average' number of times there's a 27% chance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_...ol_methods

[reino341]

(02-18-2013 09:19 AM)Ensam Wrote:  

If they guy really pulled out there's a decent chance the kid isn't his. Pulling out is a remarkably effective method, we just don't tell teenagers this because they'd probably fuck it up and it doesn't do anything about STDs. If you actually pull out every single time there's only a 4% chance the girl is going to get pregnant over the course of a year. I seriously wonder how much of that 4% is due to infidelity. If you fuck up the 'average' number of times there's a 27% chance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_...ol_methods

And what about the failures that are because of sperm from a previous ejaculation that wasn't removed by peeing. I wonder if that's taken into account in perfect use or not.

[Ensam]

Right, you'd have to find whatever protocol the study used to identify 'perfect use'. Unfortunately all the references I could find lead back to a book I don't have access to. The point remains that in either case there's a betting man's chance that the kid is not his.

[michelin]

I guess the girl took a red pill.

just kiddin...

[Mekorig]

The guy must keep a cold head. Demand a paternity test. Also, if she stop using the pill but lie to him about it, i think he can sue her for that.

[Basil Ransom]

There's also a new prenatal test that is non-invasive - there's no risk of a miscarriage from doing it. Basically, the mother has some of the fetus' cells floating around in her blood, and we've developed the capability to isolate them. You just draw a bit of the mother's blood. Still have to wait 14 weeks though.

http://www.prenatalgeneticscenter.com/se...nity-test/

[Parlay44]

(02-18-2013 11:56 AM)Mekorig Wrote:  

The guy must keep a cold head. Demand a paternity test. Also, if she stop using the pill but lie to him about it, i think he can sue her for that.

A woman can still get pregnant while on the pill.

[gamepadawan]

(02-18-2013 11:56 AM)Mekorig Wrote:  

The guy must keep a cold head. Demand a paternity test. Also, if she stop using the pill but lie to him about it, i think he can sue her for that.

don't think he can

[rudebwoy]

This is also the other side of "game", know what kind of chicks you are fucking. I can't think of anything worse than knocking up a chick like this, I know dudes who pay child support and it ain't fun. You are now connected to this bitch forever, whether you like it or not.
I really feel for the dude in this story, her family is backing her to have the baby so there is no chance of an abortion.
Being in my 40's and being "free" is very liberating, I find women really hate this fact since they have commitments. (child, house, parent)

[painter]

I just read some of the comments on this on reddit and this one had me laughing:

Fake your own death.

I thought about it and was like, yeah, it's doable. You put in for a couple weeks vacation at your six figure job, enlist the help of a friend or family member to break the "bad news" to her and combine that with the post above about "getting evil" with the girl. Write her a suicide note saying something about how chromosomal damage runs in your family and there's no way you're ever going to be dad to a retard and you regret not getting the vasectomy when you had the chance and you're sorry that she's going to have to go through a whole pregnancy and have a fucked up baby that probably won't even make it but you know she'll be a good mother to a kid with extremely special needs and apologize for not being strong enough to handle it and taking the easy way out.

Then go on vacation (or just move out of town if that's an option). Have your trusted friend or family member lay on the abortion talk (obviously a huge favor to ask of someone) and confirm family chromosomal damage with some horror stories about stillborn babies, siamese twins, mutants, babies that only live a couple days, ones that self-abort at six or seven months or whatever you come up with. Scare the fuck out of the chick, make her think she's carrying Frankenstein in her womb and she'll be running to Planned Parenthood after a sleepless night or two.

Come back from vacation with the problem solved. I think this would work but you would have to be ready for it. Your reaction when the chick tells you she's pregnant must be consistent with someone who thinks/knows that any kids they might have are 99% guaranteed to be fucked up. This might even work without pretending to commit suicide but that's like the extra shock that fucks the girl up, knowing the cash machine won't be paying anything out, she'll be all alone with a special needs baby and her only resource is a $10 an hour retail job.

I hope to god I never have to deal with this type of nightmare but I've got this idea in the back of my head now. Just in case...

[tmason]

(02-17-2013 11:20 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

I feel sorry for this guy...

Quote:

Hey guys, I am terrified and depressed and need to talk about this somewhere. My girlfriend of 1 year recently told me she was pregnant. She was on the pill and I pulled out anyway for our whole relationship, just to be "extra safe". I know people are going to say "You should've wore a condom", well yes you're right. But I'm here now.

After racking my brain trying to figure out how this happened, she confessed that she stopped taking the pill. She never told me she was going to stop. Now she's pregnant and says she wants to keep it. Her family is involved and telling her to keep it. I tell her that I am not ready for a kid, but she won't listen.

I feel like I was manipulated into this. She has already said that she will ask for child support (I make over 6 figures, she works retails $10 an hour). I have no power in this situation and feel like I am getting fucked over. But I really don't know what my options are. Beg her to abort it? Try to get full custody of the kid (she is not fit to be a mother AT ALL)? Just prepare to pay child support for 18 years?

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comme...l_without/

He said that he pulls out. It's possible he's not the father.

I don't feel too sorry; you can still get a girl pregnant even if she is on the pill and pulling out doesn't mean squat; you can pre-ejaculate.

At the end of the day if you're not wearing a condom or you didn't have a vasectomy you must accept the risk.